Official Texans @ Steelers Game Thread, 10/20/2014

[popanot]

Send AJ to Indy, I don't care. Send him to PHL, KC, CAR, CLE, PIT, BAL, NE...anywhere that still has a chance. I don't even care what round pick they get in return. Give him up for the stupid pick they gave away to NE for Mallett. What a useless trade that was. Send him to BAL for Arthur Brown. Ravens aren't using him and lord knows he can't be any worse than our current MLBs. AJ deserves better than this BS.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

AJ deserves better than this BS.

Interesting comment.

Why?

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

Interesting comment.

Why?

Because he's put his time into this mess of a franchise. Sure he's gotten paid well, but IMO, he deserves better and they should look at moving him out of respect. Look at it like SF trading Montana. Yes, SF had Young, and there were various reasons behind it, but they moved Montana mostly out of respect.

As for what to do with AJ's WR position, put in Posey and see what you have. Not that any QB on the roster could get him the ball consistently...

[nunusguy]

AJ wanted to continue getting paid well, actually very well, like he had in the past all the while on the Texans' payroll. If the man wanted to leave the Texans organization that badly, all he had to do was forgo some compensation.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

AJ wanted to continue getting paid well, actually very well, like he had in the past all the while on the Texans' payroll. If the man wanted to leave the Texans organization that badly, all he had to do was forgo some compensation.

Come on. This is the NFL where the financial lifeline can stop at the drop of the hat and most careers are short. Now way anyone should question the money these guys make as long as someone is willing to pay it. You don't take money off the table if you're a player. AJ got paid because he produced, not because he twisted anyone's arm or forced their hand. He deserved to get paid like a top echelon player should. Other than this summer where there were rumors of him being unhappy (and rightfully so, IMO), he has been the consummate professional and given this franchise and community everything he has. I think it's time the franchise grants his wish if he still wants out and they can work a deal. I'll root for him 100%.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by popanot

Come on. This is the NFL where the financial lifeline can stop at the drop of the hat and most careers are short. Now way anyone should question the money these guys make as long as someone is willing to pay it. You don't take money off the table if you're a player. AJ got paid because he produced, not because he twisted anyone's arm or forced their hand. He deserved to get paid like a top echelon player should. Other than this summer where there were rumors of him being unhappy (and rightfully so, IMO), he has been the consummate professional and given this franchise and community everything he has. I think it's time the franchise grants his wish if he still wants out and they can work a deal. I'll root for him 100%.

I too would root for him 100 %. Truth is part of me really would like to see him go to Seattle or New England or Green Bay or someplace that's got an outstanding QB and is also a bona fide contender. Texans aren't going anywhere in post season anytime soon and I'd like to root for a team who's also got a player I follow. And it could maybe happen, but Andre would have to make a bigger monetary accommodation than the Texans or any potential third-party if there's any chance of it really happening.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by popanot

Because he's put his time into this mess of a franchise. Sure he's gotten paid well, but IMO, he deserves better and they should look at moving him out of respect. Look at it like SF trading Montana. Yes, SF had Young, and there were various reasons behind it, but they moved Montana mostly out of respect.

As for what to do with AJ's WR position, put in Posey and see what you have. Not that any QB on the roster could get him the ball consistently...

You're mixing business and pleasure. The NFL is a business. There may have been a handful of "good" gestures performed in the league the last 50+ years, but that number is painfully small. The Texans owe Dre nothing more than his paycheck. If the time comes where his trade value/earnings exceeds his play, I absolutely expect him to get moved. Till then, he's the property of the team. There are 32 jobs at various levels within the league. You don't keep your job very long by trading away one of your only offensive weapons because you suck and he's a good guy. Just doesn't work that way.

[Arky]

Posey. Now, there's a mystery.

I have a feeling he's been doghoused for some reason. Maybe he and OB just aren't on the same page..... OB was asked about him today (heard on the radio) and he said something along the lines of practicing well/making progress but it's a real mystery why he isn't seeing any action. Seems like he's getting set up to be one of those guys the Texans ignore and eventually moves on to a team where he becomes a starter and produces.....

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Arky

Posey. Now, there's a mystery.

I have a feeling he's been doghoused for some reason. Maybe he and OB just aren't on the same page..... OB was asked about him today (heard on the radio) and he said something along the lines of practicing well/making progress but it's a real mystery why he isn't seeing any action. Seems like he's getting set up to be one of those guys the Texans ignore and eventually moves on to a team where he becomes a starter and produces.....

I'd like to see him too. They've said before that it's just a numbers thing -- so far in each game they've only had four active WRs (Andre, Hopkins, D. Johnson, and Martin). With them going with so few WRs, the fact that Posey isn't a returner (unlike D. Johnson and Martin) seems to really work against him getting to suit up on gameday.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Warren

I'd like to see him too. They've said before that it's just a numbers thing -- so far in each game they've only had four active WRs (Andre, Hopkins, D. Johnson, and Martin). With them going with so few WRs, the fact that Posey isn't a returner (unlike D. Johnson and Martin) seems to really work against him getting to suit up on gameday.

But Posey was great in ST coverage last year. I agree there must be something more.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

You don't keep your job very long by trading away one of your only offensive weapons because you suck and he's a good guy. Just doesn't work that way.

Most of what we talk about on this board is hypothetical. Of course it's not going to happen. Not only because the NFL is set in their ways and makes it almost impossible to make such a trade, but because our owner and GM are idiots who rarely get anything right. AJ could conceivably bring decent value in perhaps a young prospect either in a player or pick, but knowing this franchise and the people in charge, they'd likely just screw up a trade and/or the product in return. With Bob McNair, people keep their jobs far too long for lousy coaching, lousy drafts, lousy FA signings and lousy contracts, so I highly doubt a trade would change anything as far as anyone's job status.

[popanot]

I also heard the comment that DJohnson and Martin were active because of their return skills. Yet, they had Manning back there on KR's fumbling and bumbling around throughout the whole PITT game.

[popanot]

Speaking of GM's: Top 5 Candidates

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...andidates.html

But Bob will probably consult with Reeves since he's been so connected to the game.