2013 Mocks and Needs

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27 Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia 6' 3" 232
57 Dallas Thomas OT Tennessee 6' 5" 310
89 Tavarres King WR Georgia 6' 1" 184
121 Greg Reid CB Valdosta State 5' 9" 175
153 Chris Jones DT Bowling Green 6' 2" 290
185 Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford 5' 11" 209
217 Ryan Otten TE San Jose State 6' 6" 245

I like Ogletree, but I am not sure he is big enough to be ILB for Wade. And I am not sure that OT is a top need.

27 Cordarrelle Patterson* WR Tennessee 6' 3" 205
57 Bacarri Rambo S Georgia 6' 1" 208
89 Jordan Hill DT Penn State 6' 1" 297
121 Nico Johnson ILB/OLB Alabama 6' 3" 238
153 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State 6' 1" 240
185 Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford 5' 11" 209
217 Joe Kruger* DE Utah 6' 7" 280

I would have liked to get an OL at some point in this, but I failed to do so.

[chuck]

Man, I'm so down on this team that it's hard for me to get any clarity on where we are and what we need.

I'm with you in thinking that OT and even OL in general is not a real need. Cush is the only ILB on the field in nickel and dime so do you really want to go first overall on a guy who can only play a third of defensive snaps? I'd love to get a big, fast, athletic WR but I have no confidence that the head coach will use him or that the quarterback will find him.

I say DT or secondary or even OLB. We need to upgrade the Cody/Mitchell tandem, we need to upgrade JJo and we need to upgrade Barwin.

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Originally Posted by chuck

Man, I'm so down on this team that it's hard for me to get any clarity on where we are and what we need.

I'm with you in thinking that OT and even OL in general is not a real need. Cush is the only ILB on the field in nickel and dime so do you really want to go first overall on a guy who can only play a third of defensive snaps? I'd love to get a big, fast, athletic WR but I have no confidence that the head coach will use him or that the quarterback will find him.

I say DT or secondary or even OLB. We need to upgrade the Cody/Mitchell tandem, we need to upgrade JJo and we need to upgrade Barwin.

You make a good case for a draft that looks more like this:

27 John Jenkins DT Georgia 6' 4" 350
57 Bacarri Rambo S Georgia 6' 1" 208
89 E.J. Manuel QB Florida State 6' 5" 234
121 Omoregie Uzzi OG Georgia Tech 6' 3" 300
153 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State 6' 1" 240
185 Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford 5' 11" 209
217 Joe Kruger* DE Utah 6' 7" 280

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

217 Joe Kruger* DE Utah 6' 7" 280

01/02/13 - It was expected Utah defensive end Joe Kruger would follow his older brother Paul into the NFL given his talent. Apparently he wants to make that move sooner rather than later. The junior announced Wednesday he will enter the 2013 NFL draft. The 6-foot-7, 280-pound defensive end played in 37 of 38 games from 2010-12 with 14 starts. He finished the 2012 season with 30 tackles, including eight tackles for a loss and a team-high six sacks in 11 games.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2013&genpos=de
The Ravens OLB and soon to be rich young NFL FA Paul's big "little" brother Joe Kruger is a very interesting prospect and looks like a natural 3-4 DE with his size and length. Obviously he should stay school in another year, but he's probably a typical Mormon college guy who's a little older and wants to make some money before his time has passed. But besides size, with those sacks #s he appears to also be athletic.
Here's predicting he ends up going in the middle rounds and not towards the end of the Draft, though presently the Draft rating services also have him going very late.

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

01/02/13 - It was expected Utah defensive end Joe Kruger would follow his older brother Paul into the NFL given his talent. Apparently he wants to make that move sooner rather than later. The junior announced Wednesday he will enter the 2013 NFL draft. The 6-foot-7, 280-pound defensive end played in 37 of 38 games from 2010-12 with 14 starts. He finished the 2012 season with 30 tackles, including eight tackles for a loss and a team-high six sacks in 11 games.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2013&genpos=de
The Ravens OLB and soon to be rich young NFL FA Paul's big "little" brother Joe Kruger is a very interesting prospect and looks like a natural 3-4 DE with his size and length. Obviously he should stay school in another year, but he's probably a typical Mormon college guy who's a little older and wants to make some money before his time has passed. But besides size, with those sacks #s he appears to also be athletic.
Here's predicting he ends up going in the middle rounds and not towards the end of the Draft, though presently the Draft rating services also have him going very late.

I agree with the article, I think he will go higher then the current rankings have him.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

27 Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia 6' 3" 232
57 Dallas Thomas OT Tennessee 6' 5" 310
89 Tavarres King WR Georgia 6' 1" 184
121 Greg Reid CB Valdosta State 5' 9" 175
153 Chris Jones DT Bowling Green 6' 2" 290
185 Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford 5' 11" 209
217 Ryan Otten TE San Jose State 6' 6" 245

Our team needs are wide and plenty, here's a mock with compensatory picks in 3rd and 5th rounds.

1. Xavier Rhodes* CB Florida State 6' 1" 206
GQ gets a huge offer elsewhere and we're forced to moved K. Jax to safety, therefore CB trumps all other positions. We could take a safety here, but Wade wisely goes with a CB and selects the best on the board.

2. Da'Rick Rogers Tennessee Tech 6' 3" 215
With so many question marks at WR next year regarding Posey and company, Kubes' takes a very good WR in the second round.

3. Bennie Logan* DT LSU 6' 3" 295
With S. Cody on the decline, we take another NT to rotate with Earl Mitchell. Logan may need to add 10-15 pounds, but can rush the passer and defend the run admirably and is a steal in the third.

3b. Alvin Bailey OG Arkansas 6' 5" 319
The right side is still a work in progress and Bailey's depth will be needed if Caldwell doesn't return next year. The mammoth Bailey played RG at Arkansas and was regarded as one of the best interior linemen in the SEC in 2012.

4. Gerald Hodges OLB/ILB Penn State 6' 2" 234
Hodges provides depth and insurance at ILB, especially if Cushing loses some mobility/speed after knee sugery. Had multiple 100tkl seasons at Penn St, aka Linebacker U.

5. Christine Michael RB Texas A&M 5' 11" 215
While Forsett played well last season, Michael is too good to pass up in the 5th round.

5b. Chris Faulk OT LSU 6' 6" 316
Was second team All SEC prior to his knee injury in September 2012.

6. Duke Williams S Nevada 6' 1" 185
Productive DB with some kickoff return potential on ST.

7. Philip Lutzenkirchen TE Auburn 6' 5" 255
Thought about Michael Williams of Alabama here, but went with the better (route runner/hands) TE, never know if he may need to step up and play more due to injuries. If he can prove he's healthy post hip surgery, his versatility could really help this team.

I still think we'll sign some UD ILB's.

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PreCombine mock. I've been trying to think outside the box, and looking at the needs of the team. This can be refined once FA opens in March, then we can see who is back and who is gone.

What would you guys think about a draft like this?


1st Zach Ertz TE Stanford 6' 6" 245
2nd Barrett Jones OC Alabama 6' 4" 301
3rd Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas 6' 3" 209
3rd sup A T.J. McDonald S USC 6' 2" 205
4th Zac Dysert QB Miami (Ohio) 6' 3" 215
5th A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State 6' 1" 240
5th sup B Stansly Maponga* DE TCU 6' 2" 260
5th sup C Stepfan Taylor RB Stanford 5' 11" 209
6th Joe Kruger* DE Utah 6' 7" 280
7th Michael Williams TE Alabama 6-6 269
7th sup D John Boyett FS Oregon 5-10 205

Sup A = Mario
Sup B = Brisiel
Sup C = Dreessen
Sup D = Allen

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

Our team needs are wide and plenty, here's a mock with compensatory picks in 3rd and 5th rounds.

1. Xavier Rhodes* CB Florida State 6' 1" 206
GQ gets a huge offer elsewhere and we're forced to moved K. Jax to safety, therefore CB trumps all other positions. We could take a safety here, but Wade wisely goes with a CB and selects the best on the board.

2. Da'Rick Rogers Tennessee Tech 6' 3" 215
With so many question marks at WR next year regarding Posey and company, Kubes' takes a very good WR in the second round.

3. Bennie Logan* DT LSU 6' 3" 295
With S. Cody on the decline, we take another NT to rotate with Earl Mitchell. Logan may need to add 10-15 pounds, but can rush the passer and defend the run admirably and is a steal in the third.

3b. Alvin Bailey OG Arkansas 6' 5" 319
The right side is still a work in progress and Bailey's depth will be needed if Caldwell doesn't return next year. The mammoth Bailey played RG at Arkansas and was regarded as one of the best interior linemen in the SEC in 2012.

4. Gerald Hodges OLB/ILB Penn State 6' 2" 234
Hodges provides depth and insurance at ILB, especially if Cushing loses some mobility/speed after knee sugery. Had multiple 100tkl seasons at Penn St, aka Linebacker U.

5. Christine Michael RB Texas A&M 5' 11" 215
While Forsett played well last season, Michael is too good to pass up in the 5th round.

5b. Chris Faulk OT LSU 6' 6" 316
Was second team All SEC prior to his knee injury in September 2012.

6. Duke Williams S Nevada 6' 1" 185
Productive DB with some kickoff return potential on ST.

7. Philip Lutzenkirchen TE Auburn 6' 5" 255
Thought about Michael Williams of Alabama here, but went with the better (route runner/hands) TE, never know if he may need to step up and play more due to injuries. If he can prove he's healthy post hip surgery, his versatility could really help this team.

I still think we'll sign some UD ILB's.

I like this draft

[Nconroe]

Has NFL announced when we will know which compensatory picks we actually get.

Should be pretty soon.

That would be nice to get four.

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

Has NFL announced when we will know which compensatory picks we actually get.

Should be pretty soon.

That would be nice to get four.

In the past they have announced the picks in late March

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27 Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia 6' 3" 232
57 John Jenkins DT Georgia 6' 4" 350
89 Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech 6' 4" 232
121 Xavier Nixon OT Florida 6' 5" 300
153 Shawn Williams S Georgia 6' 1" 220
185 Terry Hawthorne CB Illinois 6' 0" 190
217 T.J. Johnson OC South Carolina 6' 4" 314

I'm not sure about this one. Ogletree is a true talent on the field, but he is high risk off the field. He can cover and he can tackle. He is on the light size for what I have seen Wade use, so I don't know that he is an option. Jenkins is a huge man, and Gary tends to steer away from huge men. I hope he drops to the 57 pick and we take him. Davis is also a question mark, he is not a high motor guy, and he is not a willing blocker.

I like all three of these guys, I just don't think the Texans will want them.

27 Tavon Austin WR West Virginia 5' 9" 173
57 John Jenkins DT Georgia 6' 4" 350
89 Joseph Fauria TE UCLA 6' 8" 252
121 Shawn Williams S Georgia 6' 1" 220
153 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State 6' 1" 240
185 Bruce Taylor ILB Virginia Tech 6' 2" 246
217 Joe Kruger* DE Utah 6' 7" 280

Austin is a matchup nightmare, and he is a tough guy. Not the ideal height and weight, but in the slot the other team will have issues with him. I like the idea of a big man in the middle for a change. Fauria will give rare red zone height. Williams is a strong leader and is always around the ball. Klein is a tackling machine, and Taylor is going to be one year removed from a lisfranc injury, could be a steal. No way Kruger last long, can he?

[Blitzwood]

27 Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia 6' 3" 232
57 John Jenkins DT Georgia 6' 4" 350
89 Marcus Davis WR Virginia Tech 6' 4" 232
121 Xavier Nixon OT Florida 6' 5" 300
153 Shawn Williams S Georgia 6' 1" 220
185 Terry Hawthorne CB Illinois 6' 0" 190
217 T.J. Johnson OC South Carolina 6' 4" 314

While not the worst, it's not the direction I see the Texans going in.

1. Justin Hunter* WR Tennessee 6' 4" 196
2012 Second team All-SEC. With Schaub's accuracy in question, Hunter gives him a huge radius receiver to throw to... 4.4 speed and another reason will come later that helps this decision. The comparisons to J. Jones and AJ Green don't hurt either...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6GXID2dXk He had 73 receptions, 1083 yards, and 9 td's, on a loaded Tennessee team last year.

2. Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State 6' 3" 251
Jenkins would have been a top 15 pick this year if not for his foot injury(lis franc) at the beginnig of the season. If he performs well at his proday, and with the impending move of Brooks Reed to ILB , I believe Jenkins will be a Texan if he's still on the board. That will give us a Barwin(if resigned), Mercilus, and Jenkins rotation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYECkG3qJmM

3a. Tyler Bray* QB Tennessee 6' 6" 210
This kid really impressed at the combine and has alot of good tape out there(Like the one above with Justin Hunter on the receiving end). He's young and can be groomed as the potential starter in a year or two, barring any injury to Schaub....Has the height and arm strength Kubiak usually looks for in a QB.

3b. Da'Rick Rogers* WR Tennessee Tech 6' 3" 217
2011 First team All-SEC. Talented, tough receiver that played with Hunter and Bray at Tennessee before being dissmissed from the team. There are some character concerns, but taking the risk in the middle rounds on his type of talent could well be worth it. If he can stay out of trouble, we'd have secured one of the most coveted WR / QB trio's in recent memory. If Hunter hadn't hurt his knee and Rogers not get booted from the team later, who knows how far they would have gone in 2011 and 2012. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BHOXRyDLuw

4. David Quessenberry OT San Jose State 6' 5" 302
Butler is released, Newton has new competition for RT now.

5. Jordan Hill DT Penn State 6' 1" 297
Nonstop motor, stout against the run. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJcbDCuStPs

6. D.J. Swearinger S South Carolina 6' 0" 210
Say goodbye Keo. Manning is 31.

6b. A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State 6' 1" 240 or Nico Johnson ILB Alabama 6' 2" 245

7. Quinton Dial 3-4DE Alabama 6' 5" 300
Nick Saban coached DL with two Championships.

UDFA- Cameron Lawrence LB Mississippi St. 6' 3" 240
(over 120 tackles in each of the last two season in the SEC)

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27 Matt Elam* S Florida 5' 10" 199
57 Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech 6' 2" 195
89 Chase Thomas OLB Stanford 6' 4" 240
95 Marquise Goodwin WR Texas 5' 9" 180
124 Christine Michael RB Texas A&M 5' 11" 215
160 Malliciah Goodman DE Clemson 6' 4" 280
195 Josh Evans S Florida 6' 1" 195
201 Quanterus Smith DE Western Kentucky 6' 5" 244
233 Ryan Allen PT Louisiana Tech 6' 2" 215

We finally have the supplemental picks in and a new mock that reflect those picks.

My take:
27 Desmond Trufant CB Washington 6' 0" 172
57 Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M 6' 0" 204
89 Chase Thomas OLB Stanford 6' 4" 240
95 Joseph Fauria TE UCLA 6' 8" 252
124 Christine Michael RB Texas A&M 5' 11" 220
160 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State 6' 1" 240
195 Robert Lester S Alabama 6' 2" 207
201 Oday Aboushi OT Virginia 6' 6" 310
233 Spencer Nealy DT Texas A&M 6' 5" 277

I never intended to have this many Aggies in my mock, it just happened that way. Trufant is a very solid kid, he could allow the Texans to move Jackson to Safety. Swope was BPA at a position of need, he has great hands, run precise routes, and he has deceptive speed. I took Thomas due to the fact that I have been mocking him to the Texans almost all season. I think he can be both a OLB and a ILB in our system. Fauria is a huge red zone target. Michaels, he knows the scheme, and they need a #3 RB. Klein is a tackling machine. Lester has really dropped, he was projected to be an early round Safety for most of the season, Aboushi was also projected in the 3rd on many boards, and Nealy is a why not pick.