Texans' Current Draft Position: 9-13

[HPF Bob]

With four weeks to go:

1. Carolina 1-11
2. Detroit 2-10
Buffalo 2-10
Cincinnati 2-10
5. Arizona 3-9
Denver 3-9
7. San Francisco 4-8
Dallas 4-8
9. Minnesota 5-7
Washington 5-7
Cleveland 5-7
Tennessee 5-7
HOUSTON 5-7
14. Six tied with 6-6

[edo783]

I suspect we may move up a spot or two when all is said an done. Perhaps #7 or so.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

With four weeks to go:

1. Carolina 1-11
2. Detroit 2-10
Buffalo 2-10
Cincinnati 2-10
5. Arizona 3-9
Denver 3-9
7. San Francisco 4-8
Dallas 4-8
9. Minnesota 5-7
Washington 5-7
Cleveland 5-7
Tennessee 5-7
HOUSTON 5-7
14. Six tied with 6-6

The 1st tie breaker is strength of schedule, and from what I can gather, we have the toughest schedule of the teams we are tied with. That would give us the 13th pick currently. I will have a better stat on this Tuesday.

[kRocket]

I hope that this year we don't have a meaningless run at the end of the season to move us into draft mediocrity again. a couple of wins turned to losses last year moved us down considerably in the draft and maybe out of the running for a top-notch player. Remember that position runs throughout the rounds.

[HPF Bob]

With three weeks to go:

1. Carolina (1-12)
2. Cincinnati (2-11)
3. Denver (3-10)
Buffalo (3-10)
Detroit (3-10)
6. Arizona (4-9)
Dallas (4-9)
8. Washington (5-8)
Minnesota (5-8)
San Francisco (5-8)
HOUSTON (5-8)
Cleveland (5-8)
Tennessee (5-8)

The Titans are actually -3 in the W-L but +26 in pt. differential.

PK is right that SOS determines the tiebreaker for the draft which tends to kill us because it is the worst SOS that gets priority and the AFC South is traditionally a strong division, although not so much this year.

[NBT]

What we need in the Draft is a head hunting excellent coverage FS, and that can be had in the mid first round. After that I still want a DT that can collapse the QB pocket on 3rd downs.

[TheMatrix31]

I want wins. Considering two of our last three games are against teams we f'n hate......I want wins. I don't care about draft position if it means we can beat the hell out of the Titans and cost Jacksoffville a playoff spot.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by NBT

What we need in the Draft is a head hunting excellent coverage FS, and that can be had in the mid first round. After that I still want a DT that can collapse the QB pocket on 3rd downs.

I guess it doesn't matter if there are any safeties worth a top 15 pick, go ahead and take one cause we need it.

Currently I do not have safety worth a 1st round pick. I would draft CB Brandon Harris at our current draft position, and move Quin or Jackson to FS. Monday night showed what Pollard can do if used correctly. He needs to be around the line of scrimmage and attaching.

[Nconroe]

Yeah, Pollard looked like an all-Pro this last game, first time they cut him loose at the line all year for some reason.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

I want wins. Considering two of our last three games are against teams we f'n hate......I want wins. I don't care about draft position if it means we can beat the hell out of the Titans and cost Jacksoffville a playoff spot.

Sweeping the Titans has its appeal but how will that feel when they draft the defensive player we wanted this spring?

And, if we cost Jacksoffville a playoff spot, all we do is let the even more despised Colts back in.

The real conflict for me is the Broncos game. How do I root when both teams need to lose?

[popanot]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

The real conflict for me is the Broncos game. How do I root when both teams need to lose?

I think I'd be rooting for the Broncos to lose if I were a fan of both teams. The Texans are going to be in that BPA no-man's land anyway as far as draft position.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

How do I root when both teams need to lose?

Don't worry, one of them will.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Yeah, Pollard looked like an all-Pro this last game, first time they cut him loose at the line all year for some reason.

But in those zone defenses we have been using, Pollard couldn't cover a WR, much less a TE, with a blanket. Good tackler, no cover is the rap on our SS.

[ArlingtonTexan]

Well we're moving on up

[HPF Bob]

A lot of bottom-feeders won this week to mix things up:

1. Carolina (2-12)
2. Denver (3-11)
Cincinnati (3-11)
4. Arizona (4-10)
Detroit (4-10)
Buffalo (4-10)
7. San Francisco (5-9)
Houston (5-9)
Washington (5-9)
Dallas (5-9)
Cleveland (5-9)
12. Minnesota (5-8)* - pending MNF result.
13. Tennessee, Seattle and St. Louis at 6-8

[popanot]

Just our luck - and a fitting kick in the @$$ - we'll finished tied with about 5 teams and end up with the last pick amoungst them all.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by popanot

Just our luck - and a fitting kick in the @$$ - we'll finished tied with about 5 teams and end up with the last pick amoungst them all.

Don't know how it will finish up but as of last week, Cleveland had had the toughest schedule in the league to date so we will probably be picking in front of them if we have the same record.

And I can't believe I just typed a sentence assuming we will have the same record as Cleveland. Wow. They have a rookie 3rd round pick/washed-up Delhomme at QB, a RB nobody wanted, and basically no receivers and will probably have the same or better record than us despite playing a tougher schedule. In just a couple years, Mangini (who I don't even consider to be a good coach) has taken a bunch of castoffs and already made them into a better team than the Texans. But let's just stick to our 43 year plan. As McNair would say, "We're on the right track."

[HPF Bob]

The draft tiebreaker is strength of schedule which hurt the Texans in past years because the AFC South was so strong but it isn't this year. The AFC North is stronger. While this is no sure thing, I am ranking the divisions from weakest to strongest and expecting the SOS to be roughly equivalent.

1. NFC West
2. AFC West
3. AFC South
4. NFC Central
5. NFC East
6. AFC North
7. AFC East
8. NFC South

It actually kicks bad teams in good divisions in the teeth twice - first by forcing them to endure a tough division and secondly by penalizing their draft position by giving them the shaft on draft tiebreakers because of their strength of schedule. I don't agree with the whole SOS tiebreaker (it ought to be the same tiebreakers as determining the playoffs except in reverse) but it often wounds the Texans but not this year.

[painekiller]

I have us picking between 10 and 12 currently. Some depends on the Bears Vikings game tonight, and some depends on how that SOS plays out.

Currently we are not picking in the top 8.

[KJ3]

I bet we end up top 10, maybe 7 or 8. As long as we don't go doing stupid things like....winning games.....the time for that has passed anyway.

Hopefully they don't decide to go with a 16 year old DT again.