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Old 04-15-2010, 08:44 PM
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No way we take a RB at 20 (unless Spiller happens to fall to us), CB or trade IMO.
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Old 04-15-2010, 09:48 PM
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No way we take a RB at 20 (unless Spiller happens to fall to us), CB or trade IMO.
OK, let me first say that I don't believe that Spiller falls to us at 20. If he does, I'd be very tempted to take him and then draft another RB in the 3rd, but I just don't see it happening.

So, those who are enamored with Ryan Mathews, try to remember who he played against. I myself am intrigued with this guy, but #20 is just too high in my opinion.

Now, I love to get exceptional players in the first round that can't be found later in the draft. That's why I have Eric Berry, Trent Williams, Earl Thomas, Dan Williams and Sean Weatherspoon at the top of my wish list. Then comes the NEEDS pick at CB. While there may be options at CB available at #51, I'd rather take the guy I want instead of taking what's left in the 2nd. For me, it comes down to Kyle Wilson and Devin McCourty. My instincts tell me that Wilson may be the more talented cover corner, but McCourty will be the better teammate. I have absolutely no proof that Wilson is a selfish jerk or that he'll turn into Dunta Robinson, but that is just the 'vibe' I get from him. McCourty on the other hand comes across as a team-first type of player that will do whatever it takes to help the team win. I think he is more physical and is a better tackler in the run game while Wilson will probably collect more interceptions. I would like to sit in a room with both of them when they are being interviewed so I could get a better feel for their character since I'm just basing my opinion on their interactions with teammates on the field. I guess McCourty just comes across as a Pro while Wilson makes me think that he's got something to prove, if that makes sense. I'm hoping that the 49ers or Steelers draft Wilson so I don't have to make that decision because, I have Wilson ahead of McCourty on my board right now.

Is this a shared opinion? Is this even fair? Probably not and like I said there's no real basis for it. It is probably just like Todd McShay saying that Jimmy Claussen isn't a real leader and his teammates hate him. That's one thing that gets lost in the draft evaluations. That's personality interactions and how well you 'like' the guy that you want to hire and have play for your team.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:43 PM
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So, those who are enamored with Ryan Mathews, try to remember who he played against.
234 yards and 3 touchdowns against the #4 team in the Nation....Boise State just gets no respect.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:45 PM
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234 yards and 3 touchdowns against the #4 team in the Nation....Boise State just gets no respect.
Where was the Boise State defense ranked vs. the run?
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:53 PM
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Now, I love to get exceptional players in the first round that can't be found later in the draft. That's why I have Eric Berry, Trent Williams, Earl Thomas, Dan Williams and Sean Weatherspoon at the top of my wish list.




Then comes the NEEDS pick at CB. For me, it comes down to Kyle Wilson and Devin McCourty. My instincts tell me that Wilson may be the more talented cover corner, but McCourty will be the better teammate. I have absolutely no proof that Wilson is a selfish jerk or that he'll turn into Dunta Robinson, but that is just the 'vibe' I get from him. I guess McCourty just comes across as a Pro while Wilson makes me think that he's got something to prove, if that makes sense. Is this a shared opinion? Is this even fair?
The first idea I really agree with. I think that whoever our first pick turns out to be, he will contribute. My own opinion is that it seems to me that you should add Iupati and Pouncey to your list of people clearly special at their respective positions.


Your notion about Wilson's demeanor, though, really has me baffled. Wilson was well-liked and a locker-room leader at B.S.U. He was interviewed many, many times by the local t.v. stations during his career, and I can tell you that he is soft-spoken, but confident and never has come across as a selfish jerk. I never saw him make a mistake on the field that would ever make me think it was due to a selfish motive. McCourty may be a more physical player, and I am pretty sure I would be happy with the Texans taking either guy. I know guys get picked to pieces leading up to the draft, but there should be no concern at all about Wilson being a team player.
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:43 PM
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I don't think competition level is overly important when grading a RB.

Chris Johnson came out of East Carolina. He had four 100 yard games as a senior against Houston, UTEP, Memphis, and Tulane. How do those run defenses compare to Boise St? The only good team CJ played as a senior was Virginia Tech and he had 10 carries for 29 yards.

Michael Turner, Deangelo Williams, LT, and Bryan Westbrook are all small school backs who have been in the top 5 in the NFL Rushing in the past 5 years. And Willie Parker never saw the field even though he went to UNC.

Meanwhile only Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Lewis, and Shaun Alexander have been able to crack the top 5 in Rushing in the past 5 years from the Big 12 and SEC (the two best conferences in College Football).

I would bet there is less correllation between competition level and success at RB then at any other position.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:10 PM
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Default Texans will be drafting a running back or cornerback in the first round

April 16, 2010
Check out my first mock draft; let me know what you think

http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/


He is now hedging his bets. Listening to him on the Radio/computer right now.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:11 AM
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When you think the RB that the Texans would want will be gone by 20, you have to look elsewhere.
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