Who would I take with #20

[TheMatrix31]

I'm sick of the secondary being the biggest problem. We HAVE to shore it up in this draft. I'm not a college football guy so I don't know who's worth what, but the secondary has to be bolstered BIGTIME.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

I'm sick of the secondary being the biggest problem. We HAVE to shore it up in this draft. I'm not a college football guy so I don't know who's worth what, but the secondary has to be bolstered BIGTIME.

There ain't much in this draft to bolster it with. We can keep throwing crap against the wall and see what sticks, I suppose. You better just get accustomed to the idea that Reeves, Quinn, and McCain are the 3 CBs who will be getting playing time. I don't know what happened to Fred Bennett. If Antwaun Molden were healthy for 16 games, we might find out if he's worth a crap.

I think the big problem is that the staff wants to disguise coverage, so they want interchangeable Safeties. We have always lacked a coverage FS. When we put in a little FS - he got hurt because he couldn't support the run. Go figure.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

There ain't much in this draft to bolster it with. We can keep throwing crap against the wall and see what sticks, I suppose. You better just get accustomed to the idea that Reeves, Quinn, and McCain are the 3 CBs who will be getting playing time. I don't know what happened to Fred Bennett. If Antwaun Molden were healthy for 16 games, we might find out if he's worth a crap.

I think the big problem is that the staff wants to disguise coverage, so they want interchangeable Safeties. We have always lacked a coverage FS. When we put in a little FS - he got hurt because he couldn't support the run. Go figure.

I disagree with about the DBs in this draft. I like a number of them and think this is a good year to fix the secondary.

But it's also a good year to fix the OL if they chose to, but IMO you can only really fix one or the other. Otherwise you are just putting band-aids on it. 1 OL guy, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 RB that is not fixing the OL and Secondary.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I disagree with about the DBs in this draft. I like a number of them and think this is a good year to fix the secondary.

1 OL guy, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 RB that is not fixing the OL and Secondary.

I try to use history to keep things in perspective. If I look back at 2005, there were a number of guys that I liked for the Secondary.

#50 Ron Bartell - He was a small school CB that caught my eye in the All-Star game and was projected in the 3rd or 4th round. Taken by Rams.

#57 Justin Miller - He was a returner that had great "cover" skills. Drafted by Jets.

#60 Kelvin Hayden - 5'10 197lbs from Illinois ran a 4.48. This guy is willing in run support. Drafted by Colts.

#62 Bryant McFadden - Fla State kid that was big enough to cover tall WR's in the red zone. Drafted by Steelers.

#72 Stanley Wilson - Stanford guy at 6' 0" running a 4.36. Drafted by Detroit Lions.

#75 Eric Green - He was 5'11" 198lbs and ran only a 4.52, so I was sure he would probably slide to the 4th round.

I'd say that Bartell, Hayden, and Green would probably start for the Texans. None of them would "solve" the Secondary woes. I'd also admit that I "missed" on Justin Miller and Stanley Wilson. So, finding a real difference maker in the 3rd or 4th to play CB is at best, long odds. So, if the Texans draft Devin McCourty at #50, I'll give them credit for trying to "fix" the secondary.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I try to use history to keep things in perspective. If I look back at 2005, there were a number of guys that I liked for the Secondary..

And we will not know which one of us is correct for a few years also, so see you back here is 2013

I understand your concerns. I just see them differently... Which is why you and I are here.

[Roy P]

Currently, I would say that a FS, a CB, at least ONE Guard, and a RB would be of necessity. If we do not trade down, it is hopeful that these 4 positions would be addressed in the first 4 rounds. Unfortunately, I'm not of the mindset that any of the 4 will be the BPA at #20. Especially, if Dan Williams is there at #20. I'm not even sure if this staff believes that a FS is a NEED like 90% of the fan base does. Could we sign one or more of these needs in Free Agency? I've heard that we are "interested" in Ladainian Thomas.

In my alternate universe we are able to draft FS Chris Cook, CB Devin McCourty, RG John Jerry, and RB Ben Tate. Can we get these guys in the 2nd - 5th rounds? Allowing us the ability to take the BPA in the 1st round?

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

In my alternate universe we are able to draft FS Chris Cook, CB Devin McCourty, RG John Jerry, and RB Ben Tate. Can we get these guys in the 2nd - 5th rounds? Allowing us the ability to take the BPA in the 1st round?

How do you see John Jerry in our system, he's a classic road-grader whos much more suited to what the Cowboys or Steeler type teams look for ? I see us getting a player more like Jeff Byers or Zand Beadles in the third round who is also experienced at multiple positions. Best thing about Tate is he's probably there in late rounds - OK backhanded compliment but I really doubt the Texans use a higher pick on a back. I see them using maybe 1 Draft pick on RBs but signing 2 or more like in '09.