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Old 12-04-2009, 03:50 AM
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..... But if Kubiak stays does anyone really believe we are contenders next year for a superbowl? The best we can hope for with him is enough talent that we go 11-5 even after giving away 3-4 games next year.

It is clearly time for a change unless our goal is to hit the high end of mediocre.
I loved what you said, but I think the chances of going to those levels under any conditions are very remote. First and foremost, we don't have a "We are going to win this game" quarterback. Mr Schaub gives good stats but we do need a QB that refuses to lose! I don't know if a coach can fix that, I think you are just born with it.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:53 AM
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I loved what you said, but I think the chances of going to those levels under any conditions are very remote. First and foremost, we don't have a "We are going to win this game" quarterback. Mr Schaub gives good stats but we do need a QB that refuses to lose! I don't know if a coach can fix that, I think you are just born with it.
Here are Schaub's situational stats for this year -

http://www.nfl.com/players/mattschau...86&season=2009

While his overall numbers have been good, his numbers in crunchtime are somewhat worrisome. For instance, while his overall rating is a very respectable 97.7, check out this breakdown -

First half - 102.1
Second half - 93.3
Last 2 minutes of half - 78.9

With regard to point situations, his two worst ratings are when the Texans are either tied or leading by 1-8 points.

Finally, his worst quarter is the 4th quarter (83.1) and this drops even further in the 4th quarter of close games (within 7 points) to 76.7.

In short, these numbers seem to support my growing opinion that he plays his worst when the game is on the line (while it's pure speculation, his body language also suggests to me that he doesn't terribly enjoy playing in close, physical football games). I honestly don't know if rising to the occasion and getting better at crunch time is something one can learn or whether it is something that's just in you.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:28 AM
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.......In short, these numbers seem to support my growing opinion that he plays his worst when the game is on the line (while it's pure speculation, his body language also suggests to me that he doesn't terribly enjoy playing in close, physical football games). I honestly don't know if rising to the occasion and getting better at crunch time is something one can learn or whether it is something that's just in you.
Props for providing stats to backup to what was just my observation. Others on this board point to his QB rating and say what a good boy he is and a top 5 quarterback. I don't think so and IMO he never will be.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:40 AM
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I think there are a precious few QBs who really raise there team and are most responsible for their winning (Brady, Brees, Manning). Outside of those 3, I think you have a dozen or so guys who are situationally good (meaning they are good in the right spot), and a bunch of guys who are just not very good. You can win on any level with those situationally good guys if everything else is in line. Schaub is clearly one of those guys. We can win with him.

But it is a clear problem that not one key guy on our team (including Schaub) has won in this league. That is the biggest reason why I think we need a new coach. If your team is full of guys who have never been there, then you better have a coach who has not only been there, but who can make these guys believe in it.
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:49 PM
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I think there are a precious few QBs who really raise there team and are most responsible for their winning (Brady, Brees, Manning). Outside of those 3, I think you have a dozen or so guys who are situationally good (meaning they are good in the right spot), and a bunch of guys who are just not very good. You can win on any level with those situationally good guys if everything else is in line. Schaub is clearly one of those guys. We can win with him.

But it is a clear problem that not one key guy on our team (including Schaub) has won in this league. That is the biggest reason why I think we need a new coach. If your team is full of guys who have never been there, then you better have a coach who has not only been there, but who can make these guys believe in it.
Was E.Wilson on any of those Superbowl teams for the Pats? As a matter of fact he was on two of them 04'-05'. Not to mention AVERAGE JOE "Antoine Smith". If Cato June would've stuck around (who incidentally is with the Bears.) there would be another. I agree, definitely not enough.

I would even venture to ask how many draft picks come from winning programs? Maybe I should check that out. I wonder if that has anything to do with Andre Johnson and Brian Cushing's never quit mentalities. Was Alabama good when Demeco was there? I watch, but I am not a die hard college guy.
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:28 PM
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Bill Parcells was fond of saying "you are what your record says you are".
With that in mind, Kubiak/Texans are currently in the AFC South celler (tied with the Titans) with a record of 5-6 and they have a 1-4 record
within the South, worst in the division.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:24 PM
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Was Alabama good when Demeco was there? I watch, but I am not a die hard college guy.
No. He was gone before Saban was hired. He was coached by Franchione and David Shula.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:18 AM
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DeMeco went on to become the SEC's Defensive Player of the Year for his performance in 2005. Later on, Ryans attributed much of his college success to his defensive coordinator at Alabama, Joe Kines. He was named the 2006 Cotton Bowl defensive MVP in their 13-10 win over Texas Tech.
http://www.bhamwiki.com/w/DeMeco_Ryans
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Looks like Ryans and his team were good enough for him to be named the defensive player of the year in the countrys best football conference and the MVP in his teams victory in the Cotton Bowl when he was playing in college.
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:36 PM
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In short, these numbers seem to support my growing opinion that he plays his worst when the game is on the line (while it's pure speculation, his body language also suggests to me that he doesn't terribly enjoy playing in close, physical football games). I honestly don't know if rising to the occasion and getting better at crunch time is something one can learn or whether it is something that's just in you.
Ive seen only one game where the team didnt fold on a close game.... That was the road win against the Tennesse Titans. I thought that was a different Texans team. I saw intensity that i hadnt seen from this team before.
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