Chargers "came up one pick short" in drafting Brown [San Diego Union-Tribune]

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Exhibit C: Logan Mankins.
The Patriots can get away with just about anything. Mankins was never mentioned as a 1st round pick. The Patriots were given the benefit of the doubt because they picked at the bottom of the 1st round and they are the Patriots. In all honesty, Mankins was a reach, by definition (a player selected earlier than the consensus thought he'd be). However, he has done a formidable job on a Super Bowl caliber team, thus avoiding the "bust" label. Hopefully, Duane Brown can fall into this catagory.

"The consensus" being collectively the mock-drafters, who clearly are semi-professional at best. That's generous I think if you're comparing Mel Kiper's knowledge to Bill Billichecks. 'Cause we don't know what "the consensus" of the NFL Boards were on Mankins ?
How about a year later when the Jets took center Nick Mangold, right at the end of the 1st round (29th). He's by all accounts had a successful NFL career up to this point, but he was taken by the Jets
and not the 'Pats so of course he's not been in a SB or the Pro Bowl IIRC ? And as we know it's unusual to take interior Olineman in the first round, so sounds like the former Buckeye is even more obviously a reach than Mankins ?