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04-06-2009, 05:16 PM
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Draft Tek's 4-06-2009 Consensus Mock
This is the newly realsed consensus mock draft from DraftTek.
http://www.drafttek.com/round12009.asp The Texans select Knowshon Moreno at #15. 
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04-06-2009, 05:27 PM
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04-06-2009, 06:14 PM
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Sorry, I found it buried in the original DraftTek Mock. I still believe it is justified to have it's own thread. It is the first Consensus Draft I have seen so far. BTW, I like Moreno at #15 myself. He is built for the ZBS system (quicker than fast, good vision, a good one cut an upfield runner) the Texans currently use. IMO it will add to our 4th qtr defense to have a big back who can help control the ball and protect our leads. Last edited by kRocket; 04-06-2009 at 06:29 PM.
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04-06-2009, 08:54 PM
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Here's what I got from the new board.
15. LB Clay Matthews USC 46. DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 77. RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 112. FS Chris Clemons Clemson 122. LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 152. FS C.J. Spillman Marshall 188. RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 223. CB Don Carey Norfolk State Ouch. At least I got a pass rusher and a couple of bruising RBs. I really wasn't looking to get 2 FSs, but at least they are interchangeable.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-06-2009, 09:06 PM
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04-07-2009, 08:53 AM
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Matthews, Sidbury, and Jennings with our first three picks would make me very happy. I would to like to have one of the top centers from this draft, but there's a couple of safety prospects that might work out.
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04-07-2009, 02:28 PM
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15. CB Alphonso Smith Wake Forest
46. OC Eric Wood Louisville 77. RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 112. S Michael Hamlin Clemson 122. KR Brandon Tate North Carolina 152. DT Vance Walker Georgia Tech 188. OG Ramon Foster Tennessee 223. LB Victor Butler Oregon St
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04-09-2009, 02:41 AM
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Mack Wood Robiskie Ayers Sintim A. Smith D. Butler S.Smith Delmas Beckwith Kruger P.Chung LEnglish A. Brown... it's pretty ridiculous all the talent there!
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04-09-2009, 08:10 AM
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Okay, here's one with 2 trades... both of them we are getting unfavorable points and they are deals the two teams are very likely to have interest in based on the Drafttek board and the team's situation:
Trade #1: 15 to phillie for 28 and 53 (has the 2 first rounders and may want to jump up and grab an OT or RB) Trade #2: 28 and 5th in 2010 to NE for 34 and 89 (NE is looking to trade some picks for next year and trade up) 34. Clint Sintim (competition at SLB and ability to play DE on pass downs) 46. Darius Butler (gifted CB) 53. Louis Delmas (bested pure FS in the draft) 77. Rashod Jennings (talented, bigger back) 89. Antoine Caldwell (athletic C/G can play ZBS but more of a mauler than Myers) 112. David Bruton (athletic SS) 122. Terrence Taylor (run-stuffing DT that can push or replace Okam) 152. Javaris Williams (small college RB with a lot of production... powerful, good blocker, explosive) 188. Gronkowski (Powerful TE that is a very good blocker but has some hands also) 7th. P.J.Hill (Power RB that has too much upside not to grab this late) Any scenario where we trade down should mean we take at least 2 RBs, maybe 3 out of this draft. Because there is room for 2, maybe even three RBs to actually make the team. Maybe I'm crazy but I would absolutely love this draft! Last edited by dalemurphy; 04-09-2009 at 08:16 AM.
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04-10-2009, 08:53 PM
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34. DE Connor Barwin Cincinnatti 6' 4" 256 4.59 The steal of the draft. I have him right behind Matthews, so I was happy to see him still there. I could see him as a Justin Tuck type in a few years, but definitely worth the project if he's only a 3rd down Specialist. I think he could play the SAM too. 46. FS William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.50 I'm betting the bank that he tried to play hurt his senior year and that's why his production fell off. At worst, he's a Merriweather or Phillips type S. 53. SS Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 6' 1 3/8" 221 4.45 Holy MOG. They have him available later in the draft, but I'd be happy to have him and Moore roaming the middle. 77. CB Asher Allen Georgia 5' 10" 194 4.48 I think I could go home now and be happy with the defense for years to come. 89. RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 231 4.58 Oh yea, I might as well get my big fella for short yardage. He's no Brandon Jacobs, but at #89, I don't see how the draft could get much better. 112. LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.72 Well, DeMeco I love you man, but you got to get into camp. I have a thumper who is going to stop the run in the LB corps now. 122. OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 304 5.19 No Unger, Mack, or Wood. Oh well, I have a true OC who's better than Studdard. 152. RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 9 1/2" 223 4.51 It's always nice to have a little insurance in case the RBs get hurt. All Kubiak has to do is have a little conversation with his OC's dad to find that out. 188. WR Demetrius Byrd LSU 6' 0" 199 4.35 Since I have Asher returning Kicks, Jacoby Jones can find work elsewhere. Here's a big WR we can develop that knows how to block in the running game. Did Lance Z have him on his Texans draft board? 223. DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0 1/4" 319 5.08 Well, I didn't get Roy Miller, but I'm ok with taking Pryor here.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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04-11-2009, 07:46 PM
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http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/...ntboard.shtml? TALENT BOARD ROUND 1 Connor most likely will not be drafted in the first round, but he has 1st round talent and potential. I rate him high in spite of him having to learn a new position. I rate him high because I know his first year, as he learns, that he will still make plays when he is on the field. Talent is talent. It does not matter if his impact (while he learns) is on special teams. It's still impact. When I watch Connor drop off the line, smell out a screen and interrupt that play like he has been a DE all of his life, I know this kid is going to be something. Most DE's are lucky to smell that play out after eight years of playing in the NFL much less only one year of playing that position. When he spreads his wings, Connor has an advantage as a LB that most others do not have. QB's will throw to his side thinking Connor is not near enough to the play and they will be wrong. Connor will spread out and add a quick burst and snatch that ball right out of the air. When Connor was on the field on defense, his college team played better and with more consistency. As soon as he left the field to take a breather, that defense lost its composer. I saw this in the game against West Virginia. That is a leader by example. To gain the respect of your teammates the first year you play a position you haven't played before is something special. I call him Connor (Crazy Stork) Barwin because he could have the same type of impact as Ted had for his team a long, long time ago. TALENT BOARD ROUND 1 If I'm in the top ten of this draft, I'm looking very hard at drafting William. This kid is the closest thing that I have seen coming out of college to Troy Polamalu. In fact, he just might have better coverage skills than Troy because William can be used as a CB against WR's as well as cover TE's and RB's out of the back field. You can use William as a rover like the Steelers use Troy because William is very smart and has excellent instincts. He looks to be a great teammate and is the type of player that you build your defensive scheme around. His talents will allow you to keep your opponents guessing game after game on how he is going to line up on every play. He is a multi-talented player who can play more than one DB position at a Pro Bowl level. That, my friends, is a top ten pick in my book. I call him William (Flash) Moore because he flashes all over the field and like those old Flash Gordon movies, annoys the living crap out of his opponent or whomever else has to deal with him from the other side of the ball. TALENT BOARD ROUND 2 Chip has a ways to go before you could call him an impact player, but I just see "big time" in this kid's future. His tackling is outstanding and in a two deep zone, he could surprise a lot of people the first year. Chip must become a better all around safety so that he can be used in any kind of system. I believe he can do it. His true position is as a strong safety, but he has the athletic talent to be in a single safety defense as a free safety because of his intelligence, tackling and athletic talent. He just has to learn the angles and gain better instincts through film work. I have liked William Moore (S Mississippi) in this draft; however, after studying this kid I realized (as I always do) that there is more than one impact safety in this draft and with Williams injured chronic ankle...maybe Chip would be the better draft pick in the long run. TALENT BOARD ROUND 2 Like I said before, Asher is a smart, efficient and a technically sound CB. He can play in a zone system or in a man-to-man system. He has good bump and run techniques to go along with his talent also. If Asher had more interceptions and was more of a ball hawk, we would all be talking about him as a first rounder. But Asher knows that if he takes too many chances, he will get burned because he doesn't have the make-up speed and burst to cover up for a mistakes once a WR gets behind him. Asher will have to learn his division and its WR's; however, as soon as he does, he should become a core player and a fan favorite for the team that drafts him. He might drop to a low round in this draft because he doesn't do anything on film that jumps out at you to make him memorable, but this kid is a very good football player and the team that drafts him will appreciate him in the future. TALENT BOARD ROUND 3 I would suspect that Rashard will be drafted a little earlier than I have rated his talent. But remember this, Brandon Jacobs and Marion Barber were not drafted until the 4th round in the 2005 draft! They both were much further along in their RB skills than Rashard is right now. In that draft, I had a 2nd TBR grade on the both of them. Rashard will take some time to develop and although he looks to be a good kid and teammate, learning the RB position in the pros is a very tricky thing to do. There are the little things that need to be addressed plus the difference in the talent of his opponents. He will have to step up his game both mentally and physically. Taking this kid too early and throwing him out on to the field might be disaster. I know it looks like this kid is going to be a red zone RB, but right now he does not explode into the hole and is too upright to gain the advantage. In the open field, he has to learn how to turn the corner on a sweep because he has good speed -- not blazing speed. His techniques are very raw at this point. I'm not sure how good his hands are and as far as picking up a blitz and reading defense in the passing game, you have to know that he is far behind the average RB coming out in the draft. Not to mention the average RB in a big program in most cases has to learn those skills also. So yes, he has talent and yes, you might have to pick him earlier than you should, but remember this. Rashard will take some time to become the RB his talent suggests he can be with some work. Add to that a year where he just might be injured and you can see what I mean. He is a project. A project that I would suspect most teams will be tempted to draft too early. TALENT BOARD ROUND 2 Scott is one of my favorite players in this draft. I'm not totally convinced that he can only play in a 3-4 system, but nowadays when you see defenses with very light MLB's who are better against the pass than the run. I guess at some point I have to say that a Scott McKillop with all his savvy, instincts and pure tackling ability is not what NFL teams with 4-3 defenses are looking for anymore. Here is the ironic twist. Scott is exactly what the 3-4 defenses are looking for -- a multi-talented, smart, instinctive player who can tackle and lead his teammates. It seems the successful 3-4 defenses need, and appreciate, players like Scott. The unsuccessful 4-3 defenses seem to feel that they need MLB's who "catch" players after they have made first downs. In my opinion, players like Scott are the reason teams are going more to the 3-4 defense. I think Scott can play in any style of defense, but I give him a 2 talent board round (TBR) because nowadays, he is a systems LB. I split the difference between 1 and 4 and came up with 2. It's my guess you will see Scott drafted in the third or fourth round and even then, when Scott gets on the field, the only time anyone will notice him is when the game is over and they look at the stats. He will have the most tackles and the most tackles for losses. Even then I'm not sure he will be appreciated! I call him Scott (Old School) McKillop because he understands his position better than most coaches who are about to draft him.
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Originally Posted by chuck I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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