Could another oft injured RB find a home here in Houston? [Idle Rudi Speculation]

nero THE zero · #1 08-26-2008, 03:59 AM

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Source: Chris Mortensen, ESPN Monday Night Countdown

ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting that the Cincinnati Bengals are shipping RB Rudi Johnson in trade talks. On ESPN's Monday Night Countdown, Mortensen said they're asking for a "real receiver" who could help out if WR Chad Johnson suffers a setback in his recovery from a partially torn labrum.

The needs seem to match up; we have depth at WR and a need at RB, and the Bengals are offering a RB for a WR. The Harry Williams injury and Jacoby Jone's problems have certainly hurt our "depth" at WR. But, does the emergence of David Anderson make Kevin Walter or Andre Davis expendable?

KJ3 · #2 08-26-2008, 07:11 AM

i think, if anything, the emergence of david anderson makes jacoby jones expendable. maaaaybe andre davis but i think his 1 or 2 15+ yard catches a game coupled with the fact that if he gets a few blocks no one is going to catch him on a return makes him a pretty sure thing. kevin walter absolutely not. if the bengals wanted andre davis or jacoby jones straight up for rudi johnson i'd be inclined to listen.

nero THE zero · #3 08-26-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KJ3

i think, if anything, the emergence of david anderson makes jacoby jones expendable. maaaaybe andre davis but i think his 1 or 2 15+ yard catches a game coupled with the fact that if he gets a few blocks no one is going to catch him on a return makes him a pretty sure thing. kevin walter absolutely not. if the bengals wanted andre davis or jacoby jones straight up for rudi johnson i'd be inclined to listen.

I'd definitely do Jacoby for Rudi straight up, but I don't know that the Bengals would. They're looking for a possible replacement for Chad Johnson, and I don't think Jacoby is a legitimate candidate to do that. But I'd definitely offer either Jacoby or David Anderson and see if they bite. If not, maybe raise the ante to Andre Davis.

KJ3 · #4 08-26-2008, 07:49 AM

but if we're signing up for "...another oft injured RB" then i don't see a need to trade away talent like jacoby, DA, or andre davis. we've already got them AND 2(!) oft-injured-RB's.

if they're looking for a replacement to chad johnson out of what we have to offer (jones, anderson, davis) then jacoby is by far the choice they would make. anderson's pre-season was nice but he doesn't have the size, speed, or potential that jones has and davis is a finished product so he is a known quantity. honestly i wish they would concentrate jones' efforts more to WR than PR because he kind of sucks at being a PR but that's neither here or there.

i'd have to look at stats before i made any real opinion of rudi johnson-the-hypothetical-texan. can't say that the injury question sits well with me but his reputation definitely puts him in an intriguing light.

nero THE zero · #5 08-26-2008, 08:22 AM

I appear to have had a false impression regarding his injury history.

He's 28, 5'10" 225lbs
Missed 5 games last year but played in all 16 the three years prior. 2004-2006 rushed for 1454 yds, 1458 yds, and 1309 yds. Averaging 4 ypc, 4.3 ypc, and 3.8 ypc respectively. Also, scored 12 rushing TD each of those seasons.

The negatives I can see from his stats is that he has a fumbling issue, which doesn't fly here.

Anyone knowledgable enough to break down his mechanics? From what I remember of him he seems to be more of a bruiser; more of a Jamal Lewis type. But my memory of him is fuzzy.

KJ3 · #6 08-26-2008, 10:11 AM

yea but fumbles are less of a problem than injuries....to me anyway.

hell, if he played 16, rushed for 1,200, 12 TD that's about twice what anybody else on our team could do. i'd give jones or davis for that.

i also remember him leaning more towards power back but not quite jamal lewis power.

popanot · #7 08-30-2008, 02:39 PM

Texans should call him IMMEDIATELY!

http://www.bengals.com/

popanot · #8 08-30-2008, 06:45 PM

Kenton Keith was waived by the Colts. I'd call him too.

painekiller · #9 08-30-2008, 10:12 PM

The Cheifs kept 5 RBs, not counting the FB.

And the Bronco's IRed Aldridge, so he is out of reach for the year.

Keith · #10 08-31-2008, 12:31 AM

The Broncos IR'ing Alridge is joke. This practice of teams stashing young players to the IR is something the league should review.

I'm not sure the Texans would prefer Alridge over Darius Walker, but he would have to be someone worthy of consideration.

I'd been looking at teams with RB depth, and the Colts (Kenton Keith) and Eagles (Ryan Moats) have made their moves. I think both of them might be worth a look-see. Cliff Washburn's roster spot seems tenuous at best right now.

painekiller · #11 08-31-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith

The Broncos IR'ing Alridge is joke. This practice of teams stashing young players to the IR is something the league should review.

I'm not sure the Texans would prefer Alridge over Darius Walker, but he would have to be someone worthy of consideration.

I'd been looking at teams with RB depth, and the Colts (Kenton Keith) and Eagles (Ryan Moats) have made their moves. I think both of them might be worth a look-see. Cliff Washburn's roster spot seems tenuous at best right now.

I am still trying to figure out how the chiefs can keep 5 RBs and we have have a hard time finding 3?

And I agree Aldridge being IRed is a joke and he was a guy I was looking at.

popanot · #12 09-01-2008, 07:24 PM

Well, Rudi's off the market. Amazing how most teams put more emphasis on the running game than we do. We should have brought RJ in immediately. Oh well, I'm sure Kubiak will be sniffing up Bell's butt since he's a Denver ex.

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LIONS BOUNCE BELL
Posted by Mike Florio on September 1, 2008, 6:51 p.m.
A league source tells us that the Detroit Lions cut veteran running back Tatum Bell in order to make room for veteran running back Rudi Johnson.

It’s possible that the Texans will sniff around Bell. As we hear it, the Texans were very interested in Johnson, who inked with the Lions before getting a chance to check out Houston.

Bell was traded to the Lions in 2007 as part of the deal that sent cornerback Dre’ Bly to Denver.

KJ3 · #13 09-02-2008, 07:32 AM

geez pop, sounds like you aren't too happy about smithiak's pursuit of rudi johnson...even though you posted a quote that says he didn't even check us out.

i think we all know tatum bell is about to get a look from us.

so it's ahman, slaton, taylor and walker for RB this year? so far anyway?

edit: whooooaaa.....walker got PS'd?!? wow, i thought he earned his spot. i guess tatum bell really is going to be a texan ha.......

NBT · #14 09-02-2008, 08:31 AM

This is gettin a little old. Are we or are we not going to have a running game this year?

Mike · #15 09-02-2008, 09:16 AM

No, we are a passing team. The pass will be used to set-up the run. The strength of our team is AJ, Walter, Daniels, Davis and Schaub. Let's not try to fit the proverbial square into the round hole. Kubiak wants to be a running team. Fact, our run blocking has not been great, and we have questions at RB. Fact, our pass pro is better and our receivers are very good. Makes sense that we are going to be a pass first team, even if that flies into the face of what Kubes wants to do at this point.

NBT · #16 09-02-2008, 09:19 AM

And after all that hype and preparation with the ZBS guru and all............

dadmg · #17 09-02-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT

This is gettin a little old. Are we or are we not going to have a running game this year?

Rudi Johnson would have had no bearing on that. I like Rudi, but he's toast at this point. Reminds me a little of the thread this summer urging us to pick up Shaun Alexander, although Rudi's not quite that worn out. He isn't too far off, though.

popanot · #18 09-02-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KJ3

geez pop, sounds like you aren't too happy about smithiak's pursuit of rudi johnson...even though you posted a quote that says he didn't even check us out.

I don't know the circumstances, but I would think if the Texans called him immediately after he got waived and told him he'd have a chance to start he probably would have checked us out. I don't know what went down though. Rudi may or may not have anything left, I don't know. But if he does, he's certainly an upgrade over the two veteran gimps we currently have. Here's hoping Slaton and Taylor can last the season -or it'll be.... Hello, is Ron (Dayne) there??

painekiller · #19 09-02-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by popanot

I don't know the circumstances, but I would think if the Texans called him immediately after he got waived and told him he'd have a chance to start he probably would have checked us out. I don't know what went down though. Rudi may or may not have anything left, I don't know. But if he does, he's certainly an upgrade over the two veteran gimps we currently have. Here's hoping Slaton and Taylor can last the season -or it'll be.... Hello, is Ron (Dayne) there??

The dude was hurt last season, he missed a lot of camp with hammy problems, he has a ton of miles on him. So why do we need another Brown/Green on the team?

Go young not old.

popanot · #20 09-03-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

The dude was hurt last season, he missed a lot of camp with hammy problems, he has a ton of miles on him. So why do we need another Brown/Green on the team?

Go young not old.

People thought Jamal Lewis had a lot of miles and was washed up too. Until we see him play, who's to say he still has it or not? I'd love to go young, but that takes a coach and GM who takes the RB position serious and sets a priority on drafting a good RB (or two). Ours seem to think they can throw anything back there and have continuously been proven wrong. If they want to try someone young who has size and shown some skills, then bring in Kenton Keith.