New RB in town? [Update: Marcel Shipp to Sign]

[Roy P]

After Saturday I'm a bit concerned about the running game. Can we look at some FAs or possibly trade for a guy who is low on somebody else's depth chart? Maybe we could just wait for some RB's to get cut. Anyway, here are some guys that I might want to take a look at.

Kevan Barlow
Ciatrick Fason
Alonzo Coleman
Eric Shelton
Quincy Wilson
Jason Wright

Remember folks, I'm the guy who said that it might not be a bad idea to bring in Julius Jones.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Eric Shelton

IMO it's a little early to panic about the running game. We are not completely devoid of talent and Taylor has looked better than he showed last Saturday.

All the backs seemed to look backside way to quick, this run system is about grinding the defense, not about homeruns on every play, and they will come to understand the design soon enough.

That said the only back I like is Shelton from your list, and iirc he is hurt and could not pass a psyical.

Lastly there will be some good unknows available when the cuts start to happen. I am hoping Jackie Battle get lost in a numbers game.


Some guys I am watching the waiver wire for (Battle of course)
BenJarvis Green-Ellis
Dantrell Savage
Lance Ball
Travis Thomas
Austin Scott
Keon Lattimore
Allen Ervin
Kregg Lumpkin
Chad Simpson

Most of these guys will not make the roster of the team they are currently on, also they showing you why RBs are not getting drafted much anymore, they have a short shelf life and they are a dime a dozen.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Some guys I am watching the waiver wire for (Battle of course)
BenJarvis Green-Ellis
Dantrell Savage
Chad Simpson

Most of these guys will not make the roster of the team they are currently on, also they showing you why RBs are not getting drafted much anymore, they have a short shelf life and they are a dime a dozen.

I like these three. The Cards also have Hightower and Baylark, who I liked in college. The Chargers have Marcus Thomas from UTEP.

Basically, I am looking for the next Ryan Grant.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

IBasically, I am looking for the next Ryan Grant.

That would be the goal. A couple late round picks that might be waived:
Thomas Brown Atl
Mike Hart Indy
Peyton Hillis Denver
Allen Patrick Balt.
Jalen Parmele Mia

Some other RBs that might be on the bubble
Alonzo Coleman Dallas
someone from the Chiefs will be cut:27 Larry Johnson 26 Jackie Battle 21 Kolby Smith 25 Jamaal Charles 29 Dantrell Savage

[mussop]

Originally Posted by painekiller

That would be the goal. A couple late round picks that might be waived:
Thomas Brown Atl
Mike Hart Indy
Peyton Hillis Denver
Allen Patrick Balt.
Jalen Parmele Mia

Some other RBs that might be on the bubble
Alonzo Coleman Dallas
someone from the Chiefs will be cut:27 Larry Johnson 26 Jackie Battle 21 Kolby Smith 25 Jamaal Charles 29 Dantrell Savage

I would love any one of these 3. I believe Hillis is going to not only make the team but be a weapon. I drool over the prospect of a FB like him.

[cadams]

I have really liked hart since he was in college. he isnt the fastest guy on the field, but he always seems to get yardage. if something happened and the texans could get their hands on him i would be elated.

[sinnister]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I like these three. The Cards also have Hightower and Baylark, who I liked in college. The Chargers have Marcus Thomas from UTEP.

Basically, I am looking for the next Ryan Grant.

I like Hightower, but he is going to make the Cards roster, and will get some touches through the year.

[NBT]

JMHO, but it appears that the Smith-Kubiak tandem are (have been) pretty good at picking players, with the possible exception of the elusive RB? Maybe we have just not been lucky, or we haven't been in the right place at the right time. But it would seem that, if we are to progress to the playoffs this year, we better get something done. Not in a panic, just want us to zero in before the start of the season. I'm trying to be upbeat about this, but if Rashard Mendenhall has a good year, there will be those whatiffers again.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by NBT

but if Rashard Mendenhall has a good year, there will be those whatiffers again.

after re-watching the game last night I feel even better about the Brown pick. Honestly, some of the problems with the running game really appeared to be a timing/getting on the same page thing. We were very close to several nice runs.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by NBT

I'm trying to be upbeat about this, but if Rashard Mendenhall has a good year, there will be those whatiffers again.

Oh, I think those whatiffers are going to be coming guns a-blazin' if Mendenhall runs all over us in the opener. The success of Kung Fu Panda though totally makes up for whatever Mendy does. Brown did fairly well shutting out Dumervil and the Broncos in his first game, and I'll take a franchise LT over a RB at this point.

I said this in the other thread, but I'll repeat here... I think the Eagles have some depth at RB since they acquired Lorenzo Booker. I don't know that they'd be looking to give up Tony Hunt, but he looks like an inside runnner and a three-down back to me. And on the flip side, Hunt doesn't seem to fit the mold of the ZBS RB, but then again, I didn't really think Ron Dayne did much either. Pipe dream for me I suppose, but I think a Hunt-Slaton pairing could be deadly.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Basically, I am looking for the next Ryan Grant.

Here is a scenario that I'm thinking about:

Imagine that we have to beat the Colts to make the playoffs. We are ahead by a score of 34 - 31 with 2:25 left in the game. The ball is sitting on our 27 yard line and it is 3rd down and 3 yards to go for a 1st down. Who do you feel comfortable handing the ball to to pick up the 1st down?

I want a guy who is going to break a tackle, push the pile, or do whatever it takes to get me those three yards. Currently, I don't have a guy on this roster that I feel confident in to do that. Therefore, I'm going to have to rely on a pass play (probably a quick slant to #80) and hope for a completion. Unfortunately, that makes me predictable.

Looking at the Dolphins depth chart; Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, and Patrick Cobbs are the top 3 RBs on their roster. My pipe dream would be to acquire 6'0" 224lbs Jalen Parmele.

My 2nd choice would also come from the AFC East. The Patriots signed Lamont Jordan to go along with Laurence Maroney and Kevin Faulk. In addition they are carrying Sammy Morris on the roster. I'm hopeful that we might be able to go after BenJarvus Green-Ellis. He was an undrafted FA that I campaigned for during the draft. He's not fast (4.55 - 40), but he moves the pile forward.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I'm hopeful that we might be able to go after BenJarvus Green-Ellis. He was an undrafted FA that I campaigned for during the draft. He's not fast (4.55 - 40), but he moves the pile forward.

Yep, I like me some BJGE too, but the Texans would have to add him to the active roster to get him I think. Not sure they're going to hold a spot for a UDFA.

A trade with the Dolphins or Eagles, teams that have a little depth like that would make some sense, especially if neither Green nor Brown are on the roster and Kubiak lacks confidence in either Taylor/Walker/Slaton carrying the load.

Brown should play plenty this Saturday. I imagine that either Green OR Brown might be cut, but chances seem pretty small that both are gone, but who knows. Lots of time left for another preseason injury or two, unfortunately.

[Arky]

I'd give Green and Brown all they can handle in pre-season. Brown, I believe, will see heavy action against New Orleans this weekend while Green is due back for Dallas. If they emerge injury free, then so be it - they've earned a spot on the roster. If either one so much as stubs their toe and needs down time, then the I think the Texans really should take a tougher stance with these two given their recent history....

It would be nice to pick up another "bruiser" RB since the Texans don't appear to be interested in Dayne anymore but, JMHO, I don't think it is as much of a priority as getting the O-line clicking and getting the choreography of the new system down ASAP. It would be nice if this happens before opening day but I would not be surprised if it takes several regular season games before this happens....

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Looking at the Dolphins depth chart; Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, and Patrick Cobbs are the top 3 RBs on their roster. My pipe dream would be to acquire 6'0" 224lbs Jalen Parmele.

According to Mort from ESPN, Ronnie Brown might be available.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...-brown-on.html

I'm saying Mortensen sort of reported it because, frankly, he backed into the whole subject. The Monday Night Countdown show was doing one of its cheesey segments, this one called 'Sink or Swim,' in which the pundits were giving their opinion whether certain players would succeed or fail this year.

Mortensen was asked about Ricky Williams and while talking about how he would "swim," he went on to say that the Dolphins are so pleased with Williams he "would not be surprised if Ronnie Brown sinks," to the point where "he is playing with another team this season."
...

Before I go on, let me tell you that Mortensen was at Miami's preseason game against Jacksonville Saturday evening and he did spend time talking to general manager Jeff Ireland. So one presumes this comes from Ireland as the source and not just out of sheer speculation.

But it is possible for a GM to sometimes think out loud without having any real expectation of following through on an idea and also not expecting the idea to actually be unveiled on national TV.

I would think if Mort, an outstanding reporter by any measure one uses, had the story nailed, he would have come stronger than he just did. I would think it would have been his lead comment, not the Williams sink or swim bunk.

I'd be a little surprised if the Dolphins traded Brown and looked at Ricky and Parmele as their backs. Can't imagine this "report" has much substance.

[Bigtinylittle]

Barring injury, I think the Texans have decided they are set with what they have. Even without Shipp they have five guys who are healthy enough to play right now, and all five are probably at least as good as Dayne was last year.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Keith

According to Mort from ESPN, Ronnie Brown might be available.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...-brown-on.html



I'd be a little surprised if the Dolphins traded Brown and looked at Ricky and Parmele as their backs. Can't imagine this "report" has much substance.

i think a trade for ricky williams is more likely....ronnie brown is a damn good RB what the hell are those hacks thinking? he ate our lunch last year and i doubt we were the only ones...what would it take to get brown here?

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by Keith

According to Mort from ESPN, Ronnie Brown might be available.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...-brown-on.html



I'd be a little surprised if the Dolphins traded Brown and looked at Ricky and Parmele as their backs. Can't imagine this "report" has much substance.

I'd find it less suprising if they think they could get some nice picks for him. They are in rebuilding mode and he is coming off a serious knee injury. If they feel there are questions about his knee, or feel that additional picks are more valuable to their future than Ronnie Brown I wouldn't be suprised to see it happen.

That being said, I don't think I'd give up more than a second for him and I would be really hesitant to do that.