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Originally Posted by nunusguy
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How about a year later when the Jets took center Nick Mangold, right at the end of the 1st round (29th).
And as we know it's unusual to take interior Olineman in the first round, so sounds like the former Buckeye is even more obviously a reach than Mankins ?
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Actually, looking back at 2006, Mangold was averaging around the #26 pick. Here's my list of that draft:
1 RB Reggie Bush
2 DE Mario Williams
3 QB Matt Leinart
4 OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson
5 LB AJ Hawk
6 TE Vernon Davis
7 S Michael Huff
8 DT Haloti Ngata
9 QB Vince Young
10 QB Jay Cutler
11 DT Brodrick Bunkley
12 RB DeAngelo Williams
13 LB Chad Greenway
14 CB Tye Hill
15 WR Chad Jackson
16 OT Winston Justice
17 RB LenDale White
18 CB Jimmy Williams
19 S Jason Allen
20 WR Santonio Holmes
21 DE Kamerion Wimbley
22 CB Jonathan Joseph
23 LB Ernie Sims
24 RB Laurence Maroney
25 DE Manny Lawson
26 OC Nick Mangold
27 S Donte Whitner
28 CB Antonio Cromartie
29 LB D'Qwell Jackson
30 LB DeMeco Ryans
31 LB Bobby Carpenter
32 DE Mathias Kiwanuka
The above list was an average of about 20 different Mock drafts/Talent Boards before the draft, obviously.
So, Mangold wasn't considered a reach at the time. Donte Whitner was a "reach" when he was selected #8 by the Bills. Cromartie was coming off an injury, so going #19 was a surprise too.
It's also interesting to note what I call "revisionist history" concerning DeMeco Ryans. It's been said how we were lucky to get what many considered to be a 1st round talent in the 2nd round. People tend to forget that he was projected to go around #30 and we selected him at the very top of the 2nd round with #33. The way people talk about it, he was a top 10 pick who miraculously slid down to the 2nd round.