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popanot 04-24-2010 10:39 AM

Okay, I jokingly made the call on TE (and much to my obvious disappointment now). So here goes... My predictions for the 5th, 6th and 7th are:

5th - WR - Riley Cooper - We take our obligatory white-boy WR.
6th - QB - Plug in name here. He'll ride the PS for 1 or 2 years and be out of the league shortly thereafter.
7th - K - Brent Bowden - This actually makes more sense than their picks from RDs 3 and 4.

Roy P 04-24-2010 10:39 AM

So, does anybody believe that Jonathan Dwyer and Anthony Dixon were overrated by draft gurus and mock drafts?

Roy P 04-24-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 19858)
RB Jonathan Dwyer
DT Cam Thomas
CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
RB Anthony Dixon

The Cowboys just got the Akwasi Awusu-Ansah project at CB/FS. This means I'll get to see him every Sunday to see who good he 'could have been'
for the Texans.

Keith 04-24-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 19885)
So, does anybody believe that Jonathan Dwyer and Anthony Dixon were overrated by draft gurus and mock drafts?

Couch scouts are usually in the dark on actual medical and character issues teams identify which is often why some guys get drafted much lower than their highlight films show. Maybe that's what happened here, who knows.

HPF Bob 04-24-2010 10:43 AM

Beats me. I don't see need or value in either of these choices. As usual, we ignore the safety position.

Roy P 04-24-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 19887)
Couch scouts are usually in the dark on actual medical and character issues teams identify which is often why some guys get drafted much lower than their highlight films show. Maybe that's what happened here, who knows.

I think the main thing was that was ignored was the 4.64 and 4.69 at the Combine. Most mocks had already slated Dwyer as a 1st round pick based upon his yardage and Dixon was also rated highly because he did so well in the SEC. However, in the NFL a RB without breakaway speed isn't going to generate that much buzz and desire. I basically put both of these guys in the 4th/5th round expecting they wouldn't be there. I believe that James Starks from tiny Buffalo may get drafted first.

Roy P 04-24-2010 11:06 AM

We have the 13th pick in this round and Kam Chancellor just went to Seattle.

The 5th round is when I thought about taking Marshall Newhouse to play OG eventually. Cam Thomas is really a good value here. I wouldn't be dissapointed if we took FS Robert Johnson here, because I want a BallHawk.
That kid from Michigan Donovan Warren is a maybe? Would they like Myron Rolle?

Eric Olsen is strong and could maybe be better than Studdard at some point.

Meanwhile the Eagles are loading up on pass-rushers.

popanot 04-24-2010 11:10 AM

Who knows what they want? I'm starting to think they don't even know what they want. Quinn was a good pick, but has Smith made any other 2nd-Day picks that have panned out or even shown real promise? I have to say, I can't remember a 2nd-Day draft under Smith that hasn't left me baffled. Oh well...

TexanJedi 04-24-2010 11:12 AM

Brice McCain as a nickel/dime corner I guess. Barber has played some, but yeah I get your point.

dalemurphy 04-24-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by popanot (Post 19893)
Who knows what they want? I'm starting to think they don't even know what they want. Quinn was a good pick, but has Smith made any other 2nd-Day picks that have panned out or even shown real promise? I have to say, I can't remember a 2nd-Day draft under Smith that hasn't left me baffled. Oh well...

Studdard,
F. Bennett
D. Barber
B. McCain
James Casey

all those have showed promise, at least.

Joe Joe 04-24-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popanot (Post 19893)
Who knows what they want? I'm starting to think they don't even know what they want. Quinn was a good pick, but has Smith made any other 2nd-Day picks that have panned out or even shown real promise? I have to say, I can't remember a 2nd-Day draft under Smith that hasn't left me baffled. Oh well...

Diles, Bennett, Studdard, Adibi, McCain, and Casey all look good enough to be on an NFL roster and contribute (some contribute poorly).

Roy P 04-24-2010 11:25 AM

At this point, I think I'm going to reach for MY FS Robert Johnson, because there isn't another one in the draft that I want.

popanot 04-24-2010 11:27 AM

OK... Diles and Quinn - and I'll give Casey a pass for another year. While some of the others have contributed, most have been benched and replaced at some point. They've found some role players and depth - which is OK, but I'd like to see a little higher percentage of 'hits' (or at least picks that make sense :p) over 3~4 drafts.

dalemurphy 04-24-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by popanot (Post 19899)
OK... Diles and Quinn - and I'll give Casey a pass for another year. While some of the others have contributed, most have been benched and replaced at some point. They've found some role players and depth - which is OK, but I'd like to see a little higher percentage of 'hits' (or at least picks that make sense :p) over 3~4 drafts.

Well, it's been 3 drafts: and 2 started all season for a pretty good team last year: Studdard and Quin... Casey, Barber, McCain made significant contributions. They've been pretty good but not great on the last day of the draft.

popanot 04-24-2010 11:35 AM

Well one thing is for sure... We should have hella ST coverage this year. I guess if Jackson and Tate play a big role, and we get some decent production out of Mitchell, it will all be good.

Keith 04-24-2010 11:35 AM

CB Sherrick McManis

Northwestern, 3-yr starter

Roy P 04-24-2010 11:37 AM

Sherrick McManis over Donovan Warren (too slow) and AJ Jefferson (too raw). I just wish that we would have waited and gotten Crezdon Butler.

Blitzwood 04-24-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 19885)
So, does anybody believe that Jonathan Dwyer and Anthony Dixon were overrated by draft gurus and mock drafts?

I read a report that Dwyer tested positive for amphetamines.....??

On a side note, McFadden and P. Cox were just selected, narrowing down our options for a late round DB.

Roy P 04-24-2010 11:40 AM

Cam Thomas finally drafted. Not bad value.

dalemurphy 04-24-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blitzwood (Post 19906)
I read a report that Dwyer tested positive for amphetamines.....??

On a side note, McFadden and P. Cox were just selected, narrowing down our options for a late round DB.

Alex Henderson! (northern arizona)-- I would flip if we got him in round 6.

TexanJedi 04-24-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 19907)
Cam Thomas finally drafted. Not bad value.

Nearly a hundred picks after Cody, that's pretty good. I wonder if the Texans will take a fat guy, Jeff Owens is still there.

nunusguy 04-24-2010 11:45 AM

Jerry Jones is on NFL Net right now. Dang, that's odd, he acts sober and I don't think he's in a bar. I mean, quarter 'till noon, that's not too early for ole Jer to hit the beer-joints is it ?

TexanJedi 04-24-2010 12:06 PM

There goes Skelton to Arizona.

Nconroe 04-24-2010 12:21 PM

fwiw, on last three picks remaining, I guess OL, QB, FB , I'm pretty good with draft so far.

popanot 04-24-2010 12:24 PM

Dang, the Eagles just drafted my Kevin Walter replacement.

Roy P 04-24-2010 12:37 PM

FS Robert Johnson selected by the Titans after taking my CB Alterraun Verner. Steelers select CB Crezdon Butler (I had rated higher than McManis) :(
OG Marshall Newhouse selected by the Packers at #169.

Roy P 04-24-2010 12:43 PM

Ok, we have the 18th and 28th picks and I have no idea what we are doing or what we are looking at. These are the guys I'm keeping an eye on.

RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
S Myron Rolle 6' 2" 211 4.70 Florida St
CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville
RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois
LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State

TexanJedi 04-24-2010 12:48 PM

Niners take Dixon. They are going to run over some people.

kRocket 04-24-2010 12:55 PM

The Texans draft train has derailed.

Roy P 04-24-2010 12:59 PM

The Browns take WR Carlton Mitchell, now that was a value pick. Hmmm, if Jamar Chaney is still there at 187, I'd be leaning towards him for MY pick. Since the Texans already have Darryl Sharpton, they should probably take Eric Olsen.

The Browns have Jay Cutler and they take "My QB" Dan LeFevour.

Nevermind - The Broncos take Eric Olsen --RB Sleeper Favorite Deji Karim goes to the hated Jags--

At pick #187 I am selecting LB Jamar Chaney

TexanJedi 04-24-2010 01:27 PM

Here comes the Colorado State connection again, Shelley Smith G.

Roy P 04-24-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 19923)
Ok, we have the 18th and 28th picks and I have no idea what we are doing or what we are looking at. These are the guys I'm keeping an eye on.

RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
S Myron Rolle 6' 2" 211 4.70 Florida St
CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville
RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois
LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State

Well, at least they got a guy for the OL and he was one of My Guys.

Arky 04-24-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TexanJedi (Post 19930)
Here comes the Colorado State connection again, Shelley Smith G.

All right! I guess Kubes just got back from lunch......;)

nunusguy 04-24-2010 01:30 PM

Hey wouldn't be a Kubiak Draft without atleast one CSU Ram.
I dunno, does he draft his own kid with one of our remaining picks,
we do need help at safety you know.

TexanJedi 04-24-2010 01:31 PM

Dwyer lands in Pittsburgh, in the 6th.

painekiller 04-24-2010 01:32 PM

Roy you and I finally got one of our guys. Smith from CSU.

painekiller 04-24-2010 01:35 PM

Lonyae Miller at 197?

Nconroe 04-24-2010 01:35 PM

Shelley Smith looks like good value here, 6'4", 300 lbs, athletic, and another team captain.

Roy P 04-24-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 19935)
Roy you and I finally got one of our guys. Smith from CSU.

:D

He is athletic and from Colorado. It was a ringer. I preferred Lauvao, but Smith had a better 10-yard split. I'm seeing a trend. They are the same "Athlete" = 4.9

Pos Name Height Weight School 40 Reps Vert 20 10 Jump 3-Cone Shuttle 40-Shuttle Explosion Quick Athlete Agility Quickness

OL Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 26 34 2.93 1.74 9.25 7.67 4.71 0.32 69.25 14.12 4.90 0.32 17.05
OL Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 33 26.5 3 1.8 8.42 7.56 4.51 0.71 67.92 13.87 4.90 0.71 16.87

painekiller 04-24-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 19938)
He looks like value here, 6'4", 300 lbs, athletic, and another team captain.

Shelly is a solid pick, he fits our system perfectly.


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