View Full Version : Official Texans vs. Raiders Game Thread, 10/04/2009
Nconroe
10-04-2009, 08:27 AM
Breast Cancer Awareness Day today, and Moats Mother-In-Law. Looks like several guys wearing pink cleats today for this awareness today, which is a noble cause for sure.
Looking for some D today.
nunusguy
10-04-2009, 11:28 AM
A noble cause to be sure. As someone who's wife is a breast-cancer survivor I certainly support your remarks there, Nconroe.
To the game - for the first time all year I'm reasonably confidant we are going to win. Or maybe it's just more a case of if we don't win our season is pretty much down the drain so far as making the playoffs go. The really pressure-packed, most challenging games should start next week on the road, if we win today.
There's still a chance at making the playoffs and this is another home game against the weakest opponent so far - shouldn't be a problem, and if it is then all the hopes and expectations of getting into the playoffs this year were in vain anyway.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 11:29 AM
Breast Cancer Awareness Day today, and Moats Mother-In-Law. Looks like several guys wearing pink cleats today for this awareness today, which is a noble cause for sure.
Looking for some D today.
I'm starting McFadden and Slaton in my fantasy football league today, so I would imagine both will be held in check. Therefore, it will most likely come down to Schaub vs. Russell. Andre Johnson was his work cut out for him going up against the top CB in the NFL. Owen Daniels and Kevin Walters have to come through big today.
Please, let Duane Brown have the good fortune of being able to block Richard Seymour.
Gametime!
Texans receive the opening kick and bring it back to the Texan 36.
Slaton for no gain.
Slaton for 11.
Slaton for about 3. Ball at midfield.
Pass deep to AJ goes inc. but flag on the play. Holding against Raiders 5 yards/auto 1st down.
Pass to OD goes inc.
Slaton no gain. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Schaub sacked near midfield so Texans to punt.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:07 PM
I'm liking what the offense is doing to start. 2 Runs to Slaton and a Rollout. Owen dropped a big gainer. Blaming Schaub for being too high. Slaton for no gain.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Ellis sacked Schaub as he steps up in the pocket. Winston was blocking his back side but Ellis went front side.
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 12:10 PM
The o-line is going to have their hands full.
Now, we get to see the guy Jason Whitlock calls "Ja-off-the-Marcus".
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:11 PM
Barber misses tackle for loss on Murphy and gives up 3 yards. Antonio Smith gets his TFL on McFadden.
Raiders fair catch the punt at their own 14.
Screen pass goes for about 3.
Smith TFL on McFadden. 3rd and 11.
Pass complete but about 2 yards short of the 1st down. Raiders to punt.
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 12:13 PM
Raiders wearing pink. Never thought I'd see the day...
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:13 PM
Amobi Okoye gets pressure up the middle forcing Russell out of the pocket. Russell escapes and completes a short pass for 8 yards, but they still have to punt.
Good D :D
Fonz the Boss
10-04-2009, 12:15 PM
Its crucial that we go up early.
Texans ball at their own 31.
1st down pass is batted down.
Deep pass to a wide open AJ goes all the way to inside the Raider 10.
Slaton no gain.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Raiders have 8 men in the box on 2nd and 10, so we Play Action and hit a bomb to wide open Andre Johnson. YEAH
2nd down pass thrown away. 3rd and goal from the 8.
3rd down pass is inc. so Texans to go for the FG.
K Brown 26 yd attempt is good.
Texans 3, Raiders 0
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 12:19 PM
Texans can't capitalize on the long pass to AJ. Come away with three.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:19 PM
RedZone offense.....
Hand off to Slaton - no gain.
2nd down....
Pump, Pump, Pump, throw out of bounds nobody was open.
3rd down....
Trips left empty backfield, Ricky Brown deflects pass intended for Daniels
Kickin' the FG at the 8 yard line.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:22 PM
S. Cody gets the start next to Okoye. Quin and Pollard starting today too.
K Brown squibs the kickoff and AD corrals the returner at the Raider 14.
McFadden for 2.
Amobi with a sack at the 10! Welcome back!
Bush for 1.
Raiders to punt.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:23 PM
Mario stops the run away from his side by chasing McFadden down from behind for a 2 yard gain. Okoye gets into the backfield again for a SACK this time. Cody tied up the C and LG.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:24 PM
DeMeco shoots the gap for a tackle. Another punt.
Very happy with the D. Announcers are trying to put the jynx on. Player haters.
Jacoby with a 23 yard punt return.
JJ nice return - 23 yards - on the punt. Ball at the Texan 44.
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Lechler outkicked the coverage which is a dangerous thing to do when Jacoby Jones is back there.
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Let's get seven here. Kill some clock.
Flag on play - defense offsides. 1st and 5.
Slaton no gain.
Slaton fumbles - Raiders ball at the Texan 45.
Golden Arm
10-04-2009, 12:27 PM
Would love a long, demoralizing drive here. Like that Schaub is going with a hard count today. Don't remember seeing that much... We'll take the free yards.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:28 PM
1st and 5 after penalty, and Slaton gets hand off for no gain.
2nd and 5 and Slaton trips over Studdard and fumbles. :(
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 12:29 PM
Seriously? C'mon man.
Golden Arm
10-04-2009, 12:29 PM
Demoralizing for the guys in Liberty White?!? :(
Absolutely snake bit
Pass to Miller good for a 1st down. Ball at the Texan 31.
Flag on the play.... False start Raiders - 1st and 15.
ibid. 1st and 20.
Bush on the draw - 4 yards.
2nd down pass goes inc. 3rd and 16 coming up.
Fonz the Boss
10-04-2009, 12:32 PM
Just freakin throw the ball man!!! Our run offense is not reliable and our RBs have a problem securing the ball.... Throw it!!!
Pass to Miller good for 9 yards so 4th down and the Raiders to go for the FG.
46 yd attempt is good.
Texans 3, Raiders 3
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:35 PM
Mario got some pressure and Cushing made sure Miller didn't get any YAC.
Raiders false start leaving 1st and 15. Another false start for 1st and 20. Draw play bottled up by Barber and Ryans. 2nd and 16 - Inc. Pass to DH-B as Barber covers him up. 3rd and 16 - Mario got pressure and Ryans tackled Milller after little screen pass for 8. Janikowski ready to kick 46 yard FG that's good. Still satisfied with our Defense.
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 12:36 PM
The longer this season goes, the more I think Slaton's success last year was a fluke. He ought to be a third-down back.
Nice return by AD on the kickoff - brings it back to the Texan 31.
Tight end screen to OD goes for about 5.
Deep pass to Walter goes for 42 yards. Ball at the Raider 24.
Moats for 3 or 4.
2nd down pass goes inc.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:41 PM
Moats sighting......
I always get a little frustrated when we run on 1st down with a run formation.
On 3rd and 6, Schaub hits AJ for about 4. Texans to go for the FG.
End of 1st quarter.
K Brown FG from 34 is good.
Texans 6, Raiders 3
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:44 PM
The longer this season goes, the more I think Slaton's success last year was a fluke. He ought to be a third-down back.
Perhaps we should have drafted Glen Coffee instead of signing a undrafted FA to be our "power" back.
Golden Arm
10-04-2009, 12:46 PM
Perhaps we should have drafted Glen Coffee instead of signing a undrafted FA to be our "power" back.
I think we would've drafted Coffee, but he got picked before our slot in the third round, so we ended up with this Crimson Tide buddy, Caldwell.
Raiders bring the kickoff back to their 21.
Dump off pass gets dropped. 2nd and 10.
DeMeco and Quin TFL on McFadden. 3rd and 13.
Pass to Murphy picks up the 1st down. Scratch that. Refs rule no catch.
Raiders to challenge....
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:50 PM
Nice play by Bullman and Pollard for an incomplete pass.
2nd and 10 - Pitch wide to McFadden and he's hit by Ryans and Quinn for a TFL and Cushing was there in case the tackle was missed.
3rd down shotgun - Louis Murphy makes a catch against Dunta Robinson at the sideline. Challenge? Now saying no catch. Raiders will challenge.
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 12:53 PM
Raiders got dicked.
Texans get a break. After review, play is upheld so Raiders to punt.
JJ brings the punt back to the Texan 32.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:54 PM
Announcer pleading that it was a catch. Nevertheless, Raiders punt and JJ get 13 on the return.
Moats for 11.
Moats for 3. Slaton benched?
Moats for about 9 more. Slaton back in.
Slaton for 12. Ball at the Raiders 32. 1st down.
Schaub can't find anyone open and throws it away. 2nd and 10.
Yeah, baby - Slaton runs it in from 32 yards out.
Texans 13, Raiders 3
All of a sudden the run game is working....
Roy P
10-04-2009, 12:58 PM
Ist down, pitch right to Moats to gain a first down.
Another run on 1st down to the right with Moats gains 3 yards.
2nd and 7 and Moats to the right for 9 yards and another 1st down.
Slaton comes in to give him a blow. Pitch left to SS and he gains a 1st down!
1st and ten, PA waggle Schaub gets rid of the ball instead of taking the sack.
2ns and ten, Two WR right single back, Slaton takes it to the Hizzy!!!!!!
Thats what I like seeing. Running out of a passing formation. ;)
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 12:58 PM
Thank you, Steve.
Fonz the Boss
10-04-2009, 01:02 PM
Things could be better if our defense forces a turnover.
Raiders bring the kickoff back to their 28.
1st down pass is broken up by Barber.
2nd down pass is dropped. 3rd and 10 coming up.
3rd down pass inc. but flag on the play. Holding against the Raiders. Declined, Raiders to punt.
Big Texas
10-04-2009, 01:04 PM
I hope Kubiak uses this running success as a way to set up the pass. If he gets run happy this game can get tied by half. Please Kubiak stay in the offense.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 01:04 PM
Barber breaks up a pass. The Defense looks better with Pollard in it. Dunta gets a hit on the WR after he dropped pass. 3rd and 10 - Mario was held, but Murphy drops pass. Flag on the play - hey they called the Hold!!!
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 01:06 PM
The Silver and Black....Commitment to Excrement...Just Wince, Baby. :D
JJ makes a running catch on the punt and takes it to the Texan 39.
1st down pass to OD goes for 44 yards! Ball at the Raider 17.
Slaton for -2.
Slaton for 1.
Slaton on the screen goes for 6 points!
Texans 20, Raiders 3
Offense is-a-clickin'.
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 01:11 PM
....that was beautiful.
I don't get why we don't use him in the pass offense more.
Raiders bring the kickoff back their 21.
Vargas for 1 but flag on the play. Holding ruled on AO - 5 yards and auto 1st down.
Vargas for 1. 2nd and 9.
Vargas for 2. 3rd an 7.
Flag on the play. Offsides Raiders -5. 3rd and 11.
Pass is good for the 1st down at the Raider 44.
Reverse goes for 20 and another 1st down.
Vargas for 1. Ball at the Texan 35.
On 2nd down, Russell chunks it away due to pressure. 3rd and 9.
3rd down pass is inc.
Raiders to go for it on 4th down.... but call a timeout..... 3:51 left in the half.
Pass is complete to Murphy at the Texan 16. 1st down.
1st down pass is inc.
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 01:23 PM
How are you gonna let them convert a 4th and freakin 9? Esp. when they could score here and get the ball back for the third, giving them ample chance to get back into the game?
Argh.
On 2nd and 10, Vargas goes for 1. 3rd and 9.
Good pressure by A Smith causes Russell to chunk it out of the endzone.
Raiders to go for the FG.
33 yd attempt is good.
Texans 20, Raiders 6
2:05 left in the half.
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 01:27 PM
LOL...Gus Johnson coveting JaMarcus' earring.
Fonz the Boss
10-04-2009, 01:28 PM
I like how we are not settling for a 20-6 score going into the half. The Texans pass on 1st down and make it clear that they want to score again.
Casey fields the squib kick at the Texan 28.
Pass to Dreesen over the middle good for about 17. Ball at the Texan 46.
Eww, Schaub almost picked off. 2nd down and 10.
Pass to DA complete for 14 and the 1st down. Flag on the play. Roughness/late hit on the Raiders. 15 yards, ball at the Raider 25.
Slaton for 5.
Schaub scrambles for 1. 3rd down and 4 coming up. Timeout Texans. 51 secs. left in the half.
Doh! Schaub throws an INT in the endzone. Raiders ball. Flag on Raiders for unsportsmanlike. Raiders ball at the their own 10.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 01:32 PM
I like how we are not settling for a 20-6 score going into the half. The Texans pass on 1st down and make it clear that they want to score again.
Dom is the Defensive Coordinator for the Packers now.
Roy P
10-04-2009, 01:36 PM
44 seconds left in the half and the Texans make a big boo boo. INT by Chris Johnson while Schaub was going to Andre Johnson. Raiders get flagged for unsportsmanship, what else is new?
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 01:37 PM
That's an awful, awful playcall on third and four with two timeouts left down deep in Oakland territory.
Dammit!
Dump to Vargas goes for 14.
False start Raiders. 1st and 15. 19 secs. left in the half.
1st down pass goes inc.
Vargas rushes for about 8. Clock runs dry. Halftime score:
Texans 20, Raiders 6
Fonz the Boss
10-04-2009, 01:39 PM
I didnt like AJs effort on that INT... at least interfere with the catch even if we get called for offensive interference.
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 01:39 PM
Would ANYONE be surprised to see them break one for a deep/long TD here with 14 sec left?
Roy P
10-04-2009, 01:43 PM
That's an awful, awful playcall on third and four with two timeouts left down deep in Oakland territory.
Dammit!
They need to go for the endzone at some time if you want a TD. If you do it with 4 secs left on the clock, there is no element of surprise. Schaub just needed a little more air under the ball, the trajectory was too flat. Andre was expecting to cath the ball at the endzone and perhaps laying out for it. That's why he couldn't come back an interfere on the play. It perhaps cost the team 3 points. If it comes back to haunt us, I'll complain about it.
Overall, I'm happy with the team's performance for the first half.
Halftime stats:
Passing: Schaub 8/16, 204 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Rushing: Slaton 12/54, Moats 4/28
Receiving: AJ 2/66, OD 2/48, Walter 1/41, Slaton 1/18
Tackles: Ryans 4, Okoye/Barber 3, many with 1-2.
3rd down conver: Texan 1/5, Raiders 1/8
Time of possession: Texans 14:17, Raiders 15:43
Wow, the Jags are smokin' the Titans 27-3.... :eek:
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 01:55 PM
They need to go for the endzone at some time if you want a TD. If you do it with 4 secs left on the clock, there is no element of surprise. Schaub just needed a little more air under the ball, the trajectory was too flat. Andre was expecting to cath the ball at the endzone and perhaps laying out for it. That's why he couldn't come back an interfere on the play. It perhaps cost the team 3 points. If it comes back to haunt us, I'll complain about it.
Overall, I'm happy with the team's performance for the first half.
I would have gone for the first then go for the TD the very next play.
Oh well.
Raiders bring the kickoff back to their 33. Khari Campbell down on the play - looks like leg...but walks off...
Diles TFL -3 on McFadden. 2nd and 13.
Reverse sniffed out big time. -7 yards. 3rd and 20.
Pass goes for 10 on 3rd down so Raiders to punt.
JJ brings the punt back to the Texan 25.
Slaton for no gain. 2nd and 10.
Slaton is tackled for a 4 yard loss. 3rd and 14.
Slaton for 5 on the screen - 3 and out, Texans to punt.
Raiders fair catch at their own 35.
Fumble! Texans recover! DeMeco on the hit/Smith recovers.
Schaub sacked on 1st down. 2nd and 16. Ball at the Raiders 45.
2nd down pass almost picked. 3rd down and 16.
Pass complete to JJ but 10 yds. short of the 1st down.
Texans to punt.
AD downs the punt at the 1 yard line. Raiders ball.
Cushing TFL/Safety on 1st down! 2 pts Texans.
Texans 22, Raiders 6
Raiders to kick it back to the Texans...
A defense sighting! :p
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 02:11 PM
No joke, have we EVER gotten a safety? I seriously can't remember.
TheMatrix31
10-04-2009, 02:13 PM
Heh, I asked to you guys and CBS shows a graphic. First safety since December 15, 2002!
EDIT: As I'm typing, Jacoby takes the safety punt to the HOUSE!
JJ fields the "puntoff" back at the Texan 5 and takes it back all the way! 95 yards.
Texans 29, Raiders 6
No joke, have we EVER gotten a safety? I seriously can't remember.
I don't remember but it's been a while if we have....
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Coming out of halftime, the tv guys are propping Kubiak and Baby Shan for their offensive wizardry and what happens? The offense has a pair of three-and-outs and the points come from defense and special teams.
Raiders bring the kickoff back to their 22.
1st down pass goes inc.
2nd down pass is good for 12 and the 1st down.
McFadden for 5.
Zgonina gets either a sack or no gain on 2nd down.
3rd down pass goes inc. so Raiders to punt.
HPF Bob
10-04-2009, 02:20 PM
Jacoby giveth and Jacoby taketh away.
Oh goodness, JJ muffs the punt but Texans recover at their own 12 yard line.
Coming out of halftime, the tv guys are propping Kubiak and Baby Shan for their offensive wizardry and what happens? The offense has a pair of three-and-outs and the points come from defense and special teams.
The offense just goes hot and cold most of the time - it's weird... The Texan defense is usually cold all the time... :p
Moats for 5. 5:59 left in the 3rd qtr.
Moats for 2.
On 3rd and 3, short pass to DA good for the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 29.
Moats for 5.
Schaub scrambles for 1. 3rd and 4.
3rd down pass goes inc. so Texans to punt.
Raiders ball at their 25.
Bush for 4.
2nd down pass goes inc. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Pressure from Cushing causes pass to go inc.
Raiders to punt.
JJ fields the punt (without incident) and goes down at the Texan 16.
Slaton for 1.
Schaub sacked. -5 yards.
On 3rd and 14, Slaton gets about 4.
Texans to punt.
Roughing on Turk is a 5 yard penalty but Texans decline. Raiders ball at their own 47.
1 sec left in the 3rd qtr.
nunusguy
10-04-2009, 02:38 PM
End of third Q, up by 3 TDs. I dunno, so when do they start thinking about getting Schaub out of there ?
Vargas no gain. End of 3rd quarter.
Vargas for 2. Nice tackle by Quin.
3rd down pass goes for 13 and the 1st down. Nice hit by Pollard on the tackle.
1st down pass is broken up. 2nd and 10.
Timeout Raiders.
Vargas for 3. Ball at the Texan 35.
On 3rd and 7, pass goes inc.
Raiders to go for it on 4th down..... Pass goes inc. in the endzone.
Texans take over at their own 35.
Slaton for no gain.
2nd down pass to AJ goes inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Schaub can't find anyone open and scrambles for 3. Texans to punt.
Higgins fields the punt and runs sideways/backwards and goes out of bounds at the Raider 22.
11:02 left in the 4th quarter.
1st down pass is almost INT'ed by Barber.
McFadden stopped by Cushing for 1 yard gain. 3rd and 9 coming up.
Mario causes the fumble on Russell! Barwin on the recovery! Texans ball at the Raider 20!
Fonz the Boss
10-04-2009, 02:56 PM
LoL @ Kris Brown
Slaton for 2.
Moats for about 4. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Moats is tackled for loss of 1.
Texans to go for the FG.
33 yard FG is no good. :(
Score remains:
Texans 29, Raiders 6
8:06 left in the game.
McFadden takes the dump pass for about 5. Ball at the Raider 28.
2nd down pass is dropped. 3rd and 5.
Low pass on 3rd down so Raiders to punt.
JJ fair catches at the Texan 19.
Slaton for 4.
Slaton for 3. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Slaton for 2 and short of the 1st down. Texans to punt.
Raiders fair catch at their 25 but flag on the play. Raiders have 12 men on the field so the Texans get a 1st down.
Moats for about 5. Texans ball at their own 38.
Moats for no gain. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Moats for 7 - gets the 1st down.
Moats is smothered in the backfield for about a 6 yard loss.
2 minute warning. Texans facing 2nd and 16.
Texan offense has been awfully stale in this 2nd half but 29-6 on the scoreboard is a nice.....
Moats for 3. 3rd and 13.
Moats for 4 so Texans to punt on 4th down.
Raiders muff the punt and Barber is Johnny-on-the-spot to recover.
Texans kneeling it out.
Final Score:
Texans 29, Raiders 6
Yay! ;) Nice job, defense!
Roy P
10-04-2009, 03:50 PM
What a difference a week makes. I don't know if it was because we were playing the lowly Raiders, but the team looked different today.
I want to give some props to several players this week:
Bernard Pollard played like an NFL SS which was nice.
Brian Cushing is very close to being a dirty player, but the bad attitude and nasty demeanor were needed on the D.
Glover Quinn should be the starting CB over Bennett.
Zach Diles played very well, so he's off my $hit list this week.
Antonio Smith was getting penetration and was attacking the offense along with Amobi Okoye and Mario Williams.
Shaun Cody was very effective at doing the dirty work today.
Ryans was his usual steady self.
There were other individual moments in the game like Connor Barwin picking up a fumble, but the above players worked hard during the whole game.
The defense won this game for us today. They attacked, they blitzed, they tackled. Now we will have to see if they can be an effective unit against a passing team like the Cards next week.
dadmg
10-04-2009, 03:55 PM
Signs that your team's running game hasn't been up to expectations:
Your fans are coveting the guy who came into the weekend "leading" the league with an NFL-worst 1.8 YPC.
Game ball to the defense on this one.
Big Texas
10-04-2009, 05:10 PM
Bernard Pollard (BP) This guy may be one of only a few good FA pick ups. However I am not ready to call him the savior of the D just yet, though. Albeit his hard hitting was a benefit this week. We will see if his cover skills are as good with the Cards coming in next week.
But enough of that negative talk right now. Go Texans.
Great game Ryan Moats. Was Chris Brown injured?
I am liking Cushing more and more each week. Him and Ryans are beginning to make a formidable tandem.
Bennett comes in and gives up a long 3rd down. This guy is trash. That play was zone coverage. So he is bad in zone coverage, bad one on one, and a bad tackler...
Is Jacoby good for one good play and one terrible play every game?
Finally, good tackling by Quin.
Overall great game.
nunusguy
10-04-2009, 05:11 PM
"Brian Cushing is very close to being a dirty player" is probably a remark that's as much of a compliment as anything since a HC on another team reportedly called the Texans a "finesese team" which is anything but a compliment. But I can think of atleast 2 if not 3 plays where Cushing (and the Texans) were lucky they didn't flag him for unnecessary roughness or some other kind of personal foul. I dunno how he got away without being flagged when he hit
the Raiders QB Russell with his forearm to the head, the way they codle QBs ? And how 'bout that safety he got on Fargas when he basically tripped him while throwing his azz down in the EZ ? Hey, they didn't compare him to Bill Romanowski for nuttin ?
Keith
10-04-2009, 05:23 PM
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091004.html
Nice day for the front 7 finally.
With the Cards next week, the timing is nice. Now we need the secondary to step up. Wasn't Reeves supposed to be back by now...?
barrett
10-04-2009, 06:24 PM
I was dead wrong on the Cushing pick. He has been great for a rookie so far. He is not necessarily a game changer so much as he is an attitude changer. I love how much he enjoys contact.
Dang, not quite sure why I kept calling Justin Fargas as Justin "Vargas" in this thread but my bad... Doh! :o
[QUOTE=TheMatrix31;14473]No joke, have we EVER gotten a safety? I seriously can't remember.[/QUOTE
19-10 ring a bell? Gary Walker against the Cowboys. 9/2002.
What a difference a week makes. I don't know if it was because we were playing the lowly Raiders, but the team looked different today.
I want to give some props to several players this week:
Bernard Pollard played like an NFL SS which was nice.
Brian Cushing is very close to being a dirty player, but the bad attitude and nasty demeanor were needed on the D.
Glover Quinn should be the starting CB over Bennett.
Zach Diles played very well, so he's off my $hit list this week.
Antonio Smith was getting penetration and was attacking the offense along with Amobi Okoye and Mario Williams.
Shaun Cody was very effective at doing the dirty work today.
Ryans was his usual steady self.
There were other individual moments in the game like Connor Barwin picking up a fumble, but the above players worked hard during the whole game.
The defense won this game for us today. They attacked, they blitzed, they tackled. Now we will have to see if they can be an effective unit against a passing team like the Cards next week.
Roy, really good post. I agree 100% and would like to add a few comments.
Frank Bush was on the radio last night. Said they simplified things for Antonio this week. He was much, much more active. I would keep the same plan with him going forward.
Best game from Omobi that I can recall in awhile. Maybe they simplified things for him as well. They seemed fast yesterday that they reacted well. Not much room for the Raiders to run.
Next week, Reeves, Dunta and Quinn should be the three top CB's next week.
Pollard and Quinn both played well. They tackled and wrapped up. That is a start.
Cushing plays fast and physical. He is playing well and is impressing me.
Let's not forget Mario. Sack, FF and was disruptive in the pass and against the run.
I was worried that the Raiders could run it against us. Kudos to the defense for stepping it up.
painekiller
10-05-2009, 01:02 PM
I was dead wrong on the Cushing pick. He has been great for a rookie so far. He is not necessarily a game changer so much as he is an attitude changer. I love how much he enjoys contact.
I am now willing to shut up about the Cushing pick. He seems to be pushing Demeco and Diles to play at higher level. With more intensity, and they seemed to attack the backfield yesterday much more than in the past.
But remember this was Oakland, who is a train wreak, maybe the worse team in the AFC. So next weeks game against the Cards is huge game. Believe it or not I had it as a win before the season started. And the Cards are playing down like most post Super Bowl runners up. So this is a can win game.
As for the announcers for the Oakland game, I learned that Keven Walters played for Kubiak in Denver. Wow!
painekiller
10-05-2009, 01:18 PM
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091004.html
Nice day for the front 7 finally.
With the Cards next week, the timing is nice. Now we need the secondary to step up. Wasn't Reeves supposed to be back by now...?
Did anyone else see the stats for team defense minuse 4 plays? Our guys are top 20 if they do not let 4 plays go for over 60 yds.
As for Reeves he hurt in hand in practice this last week.
barrett
10-05-2009, 01:51 PM
I am now willing to shut up about the Cushing pick. He seems to be pushing Demeco and Diles to play at higher level. With more intensity, and they seemed to attack the backfield yesterday much more than in the past.
But remember this was Oakland, who is a train wreak, maybe the worse team in the AFC. So next weeks game against the Cards is huge game. Believe it or not I had it as a win before the season started. And the Cards are playing down like most post Super Bowl runners up. So this is a can win game.
As for the announcers for the Oakland game, I learned that Keven Walters played for Kubiak in Denver. Wow!
I agree with this.
But my change of heart on the Cushing pick is not about how well we played yesterday.
My issue with the pick was that a SLB in the 4-3 does not make enough big plays or have enough impact to justify the pick or the money that goes with it. I still feel this way. But what Cushing does do is change the attitude of the whole defense. When he was running around spiking guys heads off the turf yesterday, the rest of the Defense played far more aggressive. So while he may not be a game changer, he changes the demeanor of a team that has always been soft and non-physical.
Plus there was no Safety worth drafting in our slot. My bigger issue this offseason was that none of the other 7 picks or Free Agent dollars addressed the safety position at all. This means that Smith/Kubiak actually thought we were good enough to win at that position. Unbelievable.
Imagine if we had signed Brian Dawkins. He agreed to go to a team with far worse prospects than ours so I think we could have gotten him if we paid up (and he got half what Antonio Smith did). If you put him at safety I bet we have half as many big plays allowed and twice as many turnovers thus far (and a 3-1 record at least). But instead we trotted out a group of CFL guys and waited to look for help until 2 weeks after the season had started.
Nconroe
10-05-2009, 02:41 PM
I think the whole defense, coaches and players, deserves lots of credit for playing the most dominant game I think I've seen them play. Perhaps have to say Oakland really played poorly as well, but Texans also played very well yesterday. I thought Pollaard, Quinn, and Cushings were the most visible in making a difference although almost all the guys had an excellent day on defense.
Special teams did well, including JJ's run for 95 yards.
And offense did all it needed, good thing SS got going for a few plays, and then apparently they practiced not running very well the second half.
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091004.html
Nice day for the front 7 finally.
With the Cards next week, the timing is nice. Now we need the secondary to step up. Wasn't Reeves supposed to be back by now...?
Yes, he was. He fractured a pinkie finger in practice! Wouldn't ya know it. Hope he can suck it up against the Cardinals. We will really need him against Boldin and Fitz.
I was dead wrong on the Cushing pick. He has been great for a rookie so far. He is not necessarily a game changer so much as he is an attitude changer. I love how much he enjoys contact.
Call it what you will, he is a tackling machine, and a much needed "attitude changer" for our defense.
PK, what is a "train wreak"? I've heard of a train wreck before, but not a wreak.
painekiller
10-06-2009, 02:19 PM
PK, what is a "train wreak"? I've heard of a train wreck before, but not a wreak.
leave my spelling alone, and I will leave your fact checking alone. :D
Okay, Pal, just pulling your leg a little.
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