View Full Version : Official Texans vs. Jets Game Thread, 9/13/2009
Keith
09-13-2009, 09:08 AM
It's finally arrived.
Lots of chatter nationally about how this is a toss-up game. Smacks of a lack of respect to me. The Jets are starting a rookie QB on the road and missing two of their defensive standouts. The Texans are at home and save for Eugene Wilson and Kevin Walter, they're healthy and hungry. Winning home games in conference will matter when playoffs enter the convo, so it's time to take care of business.
mussop
09-13-2009, 10:24 AM
We better take care of business! And thats all I have to say about that.
Time to give the Jets the thrashing they so richly deserve....
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 12:01 PM
Let's go baby!!
Gametime!
Jets win toss and defer. Texans to receive.
Nice run back by JJ to the 35 but flag on the play: holding against Texans puts the ball up to the 20.
Slaton for about 2.
Pass to AJ good for about 7. 3rd and 1.
C Brown for 11 and the first down. Ball at the Texan 40.
Slaton -2.
Dump off inc. to Slaton. 3rd and 12.
3rd down pass is inc. so Texans to punt.
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 12:08 PM
Other than the Brown run, our o-line looked like the David Carr days.
Jet's punt returner is tackled at their own 19.
Diles on the tackle for -3.
Nice breakup by Dunta on the pass. 3rd and 13.
Screen pass comes up short so Jets to punt.
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 12:13 PM
Welcome back, Dunta! Nice break-up.
JJ fair catches at the Texan 33.
Slaton for no gain.
Slaton takes the dump off for about 3.
Schaub hit as he passes = inc.
Texans to punt.
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Two possessions, both UGLY.
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 12:25 PM
Still can't defend the screen.
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 12:26 PM
I'm LOVING this defensive effort, but c'mon dude....that's two straight lame third down conversion man.
Jets fair catch at their own 26.
2nd down pass is tipped - but Jets get automatic 1st down on holding.
Now 3rd and 9 for the Jets....
Stuckey wiggles for the 1st down on the screen pass.
Good pressure on Sanchez almost creates an INT by Diles.
3rd and 10. Tight end screen goes for the 1st down. Jets and the Texan 39.
3rd and 3. Jets offsides -5. Now, 3rd and 8.
Pass good for the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 28.
Cotchery to the Texan 11 on a pass.
Texans have given up three 3rd and longs this drive.
3rd and 5 for the Jets.
Pressure causes Sanchez to hurry his throw - inc. - Jets to go for the FG.
FG is good.
Jets 3, Texans 0
Unnecessary roughness on the Jets after the FG to be enforced on the kickoff.
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 12:36 PM
3-0 Jets, Brick with a personal foul on the attempt, 15 yards on the kickoff. Good.
JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texan 32.
Leach for about 9 on the screen.
End of 1st qtr.
I still haven't seen that NEW Agressive Attacking Defense that Frank Bush was supposed to install. Oh, I have seen it allright, from Ryans Jets. Come on Kubiak get your $$$$ together!!!
OD short pass for the 1st down.
Dump to Slaton inc.
Slaton up the gut for about 4. 3rd and 6.
Pass to AD inc. - Texans to punt.
Jets takeover at their own 20.
Offsides -5.
Washington for 12. Wrap-up, Ferguson.
Ferguson breaks up pass. That's better, 3rd and 3.
Pressure by Adibi causes Sanchez to throw inc.
Jets punt.
JJ fields at the Texan 30.
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 12:54 PM
I still haven't seen that NEW Agressive Attacking Defense that Frank Bush was supposed to install. Oh, I have seen it allright, from Ryans Jets. Come on Kubiak get your $$$$ together!!!
You don't notice a difference in the Texans D? The only thing there is no change is allowing third down conversions. You can see it otherwise.
Slaton -1.
Slaton -3. Throw the ball, Kubes!
Slaton for 15 on the screen - 1st down.
Schaub scrambles for 6.
C Brown runs for a 1st down in Jets territory.
Leach for about 14 on the screen.
C Brown for no gain.
Big gain by Slaton on the screen but he coughs it up - Jets recover.
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 12:58 PM
Oh, damn. That was looking so good too. :mad:
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 12:58 PM
Slaton fumbles after what, a twenty yard run?
That's just.....lame.
Typical GAry Kubiak team, at least at the beginning of the season, can't tackle, and can't hold on to the ball as Slaton has a good run, then fumbles away the ball. I am so tired of Kubiak's slow starts.
Jets start at their own 22.
Reverse goes for 15.
Mario misses an INT. 3rd and 9.
Good pressure but Sanchez connects for 1st down at the Texan 42.
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 01:04 PM
Third down D, where the **************** are you?!
Short pass by Sanchez goes for the 1st down at the Texan 30.
3rd and 10 coming up for the Jets..... Stuckey wide open over the middle for the TD.
Jets 10, Texans 0
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 01:09 PM
Rookie blows coverage. Gee, this sucks.
Where was the safety on that play, or better yet why did he let the receiver release behind him? Just plain boneheaded, ill prepared to play a real game. I put this squarely on Kubiak and Frank Bush for not having the guys better prepared. Worse yet they are making another damn rookie (Sanchez) look like a 10 year vet.
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 01:13 PM
I'm already sick of Phil Simms. Get off this rookie's dick, will you, Phil?
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 01:13 PM
2010 Draft --
ALL SECONDARY.
I don't give a shit.
JJ brings the kickoff back to the 20. Flag on the play. Chaun Thompson unnecessary roughness - 1/2 the distance to the goal. Ball at the 10.
Holding on Texans - 1/2 the distance. Ball at the 5.
Pass to AD for no gain.
2 minutes left in the half.
Winston offsides - 1/2 the distance.
Pass to AD brings it out to the 10.
Pass to OD to the 17. Texans to punt.
Leonhard brings the punt back to the Jets 49. :58 secs left in the half.
Stuckey for short gain.
Washington for no gain.
Oh boy, 3rd down.
Yay, Adibi with the stop just short of the 1st down. 4th and 2.
Jets go for it. Pass complete but DeMeco makes the stop.
Penalty on DeMeco for taunting. Half is over.
Jets 10, Texans 0
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 01:23 PM
DeMeco may have just gotten away with a free taunt.
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 01:25 PM
Shut up DeMeco, you have no room to talk.
Half ends with a taunting called on Demeco. While the score may only be Jets 10, Texans zilch. Total meltdown by the Texans. Thanks a lot Kube! Where did the backbone of the Texans go? They better look for it real hard in the dressing room during halftime. You are embarrasing your own home town crowd.
Halftime stats:
Passing: Schaub 10/15, 82 yards.
Rushing: Slaton 6/1, Brown 3/15
Receiving: Slaton 3/35, Leach 2/23, OD 2/10, AD 2/7, AJ 1/7
Tackles: Bennett 4, Mario/DeMeco/Barber/Cushing 3, many with 2
3rd down Conversions: Jets 6/10, Texans 2/6
Time of possession: Jets 16:01, Texans 13:59
Still a winnable game.....
Texans to kickoff.
Washington brings it back to the 35 but flag on the play. Holding Jets. 1/2 the distance.
Ball at the Jets 13.
Jones for about 4.
Cushing nice tackle - Jets 3rd and 4.
Pass over the middle complete for the 1st down.
Jets pass good for 7 to Washington.
Run comes up short - 3rd and 2.
Cotchery turns a short pass into 25 yd gain.
Fumble but Jets recover.
Pitch to Washington goes for another 1st down. Jets rollin'.... in the redzone.
1st down, no gain.
Ferguson illegal hands to the face - automatic 1st down Jets. Ball at the 10.
Washington to the 1.
TD Jones.
Jets 17, Texans 0
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 01:47 PM
This game's done with. Hopefully we wake up next week.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 01:49 PM
Kubiak is starting to look just as confused as Capers used to. Wow.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 01:51 PM
So at what point do we pass the ball? Are they blitzing you every play and double covering all the receivers? They have too many men on the field if thats the case.
Or maybe Kyle is getting outcoached...
BigBull
09-13-2009, 01:51 PM
This whole coaching staff sucks.:mad:
JJ brings the kickoff back to the 25.
Slaton for 7.
Schaub horsecollared for 8 yd loss.
3rd and 11 inc. pass. Texans to punt.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 01:54 PM
Like I said, out coached...
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 01:55 PM
When asked what was his pre-game speech he said there was no need for one because the team looked like they were ready to play...
WTF. Ready to play what?
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 01:56 PM
Nice to see we made adjustments coming out of the half....ugh.
This team needs to force a turnover.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 01:57 PM
We have had ample opportunities to turn the ball over, but we almost always are just out of position.
Jets field the punt and bring it back to their own 38.
How about a stand, defense?
1st down pass inc.
Jones for 3. 3rd and 7 coming up. :rolleyes:
Pass inc. Jets to punt.
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 02:03 PM
And, in even worse news, Kansas City is beating Baltimore...
JJ fair catches at the Texan 14.
27 yd pass to OD.
C Brown 1 yd pass.
Schaub inc to DA.
3rd and 9.
Pass to AJ about 2 yards short of the 1st down.
Texans to go for it.
Pass to OD knocked down.
Jets takeover.
2010 Draft --
ALL SECONDARY.
I don't give a shit.
What the hell good is a good draft if you don't have a coach with the balls to win the important games, such as the first one in your own house.
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 02:06 PM
What the hell good is a good draft if you don't have a coach with the balls to win the important games, such as the first one in your own house.
We're getting burned on third down and it's mainly because our secondary sucks.
As outcoached as Kubiak is today, he needs personnel back there to stop the pass.
Kubiak is starting to look just as confused as Capers used to. Wow.
I am really beginning to think Kubiak is out of his depth. He is what he is, an 8-8 coach. I don't care if you gave him the Steelers to coach, he would still wind up 8-8! Pitiful!!!
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 02:07 PM
Kyle is lost. So is Bush. Matter of fact so is the entire coaching staff. Its not like they didn't know they were starting a rookie at corner. They are just getting terribly manhandled. At this rate we will be praying for 8-8 this year.
Jones for no gain.
Barwin almost with 6 yd TFL but holding on the Jets -10.
2nd and 19.
Washington for about 11.
3rd and 8. :rolleyes:
Jets come up about 3 yards short.
Jets to punt.
JJ fair catch at the Texan 11.
Slaton for 3. Holding on Jets 5 yds/automatic 1st down.
Ball at the Texan 19.
Inc. to OD.
Pass to DA good for about 15.
Pass inc to OD.
End of 3rd qtr.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 02:14 PM
They are blitzing 90% of the time. How much more difficult could it be?
3rd and 10 coming up for the Texans.
Sack, Texans to punt.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 02:18 PM
I just don't see how the receivers are not getting open and the Jets are sending the house every play. Either Shaub is scared to throw the ball downfield or Kyle is just calling some Junior High plays.
Jets fair catch at their own 35.
Pass inc. 2nd and 10.
False start - 2nd and 15.
Sanchez pass good for 21 and the 1st down. Ball at midfield.
Offsides Jets -5.
Jones no gain.
Busing with the INT but fumbles - Barber picks it up and takes it to the house!
Jets 17, Texans 7
Let's go, man - it's still a winnable game.
BigBull
09-13-2009, 02:23 PM
And Pete Carroll said Sanchez wasn't ready for the NFL. WTF:confused:
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 02:25 PM
Now hopefully our offense can take some lessons in momentum. But I expect to see Kubiak come out running the ball right into the blitz. Hopefully I'm wrong.
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 02:25 PM
Well, at least there's no shutout.
I knew Busing was going to fumble. It's just what the Texans do with INT's. Heads up Barber.
Texans kickoff. Touchback. Ball at the 20.
Jones for 2.
Sanchez scrambles for 5. Jets have 3rd and 3. :rolleyes:
40 yd pass to Keller. 1st down.
Flag down. 12 in the huddle?
1st and 15.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 02:30 PM
WTF. How many times is ferguson gonna be lined up man to man. He can't cover. Damn Bush, He cant cover.
Jones takes it all the way for the TD - about 38 yards.
Jets 24, Texans 7
TheMatrix31
09-13-2009, 02:32 PM
Unfreakinbelievable (http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10062/SiskoAnimated.gif)
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 02:33 PM
punt, punt, pick. It was bound to happen. WTF has the offense done lately. Throw double fake screens?
HPF Bob
09-13-2009, 02:33 PM
12 in the huddle?
That was Simms kissing Sanchez' jock.
Same blessed run play that has dogged us all preseason for the TD, and of course we haven't a clue how to stop it. Where the hell is the LB on this play? Or even the safety?
Schaub pass inc to AJ.
Schaub to AJ good for 17.
Step it up, boys.
OD for 8.
Slaton for the 1st down at midfield.
AD for 7.
Shut up, Phil Simms.
Short pass to AJ good for the 1st down.
7:40 left in the game.
Pass inc to DA.
Schaub with the floater for the INT. Jets ball at the 11.
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 02:43 PM
Of all the times to throw the ball up for grabs. You throw it up to a double covered Jacoby Jones.
Maybe he was just waiting on Jacoby to get in the game. He thought he'd get the same result as grossman.
This is almost unreal.
Jones for 39 yds on a run to the right.
Washington no gain.
Washington for 4 - 3rd and 6.
Sanchez scrambles for the 1st down.
Jets burning the clock on runs - 3rd and 5 coming up.
Jones about 1 yd short of the 1st down.
2 minute warning.
I think Mr. McNair has seen just about enough of Mr. Kubiak. I look for a coaching change before the end of the season. How sad. We could have been good if only he hadn't been so damned conservative. The defense, bad as they were, actually looked better than the so called high powered offense. Just blitz the Texans and you've got a win.
Jets get the 1st down on 4th and 1.
Game delayed - Shuan Cody down.
Jets kneel it out.
Final score:
Jets 24, Texans 7
Hoo boy, we get the Titans next week..
Roy P
09-13-2009, 03:11 PM
Well, that was disappointing and frustrating. The defense was doing a good job against the run until late in the game when Thomas Jones broke 2 big runs. The offense was autrocious in protecting Schaub. The Jets and Rex Ryan know how to put together a basket of blitz packages and we couldn't handle it. We couldn't get Slaton going and Andre Johnson was blanketed by Revis. Kris Jenkins, Bart Scott, and David Harris just ate up our OL. Alex Gibbs should be tearing up some asses right now.
I was happy to see Cushing play. With Barwin, Ryans, and Williams, we now have one more out of 11 who knows how to wrap up and tackle.
nunusguy
09-13-2009, 03:35 PM
Totally unexpected performance by the Texans today ? Not that they lost, but losing like this ? This is really worse than the shellacking we took in the season opener last year in Pittsburgh, which was against a SB-winning QB vs todays game here in Reliant against a rook QB.
How much of a factor was the preparation, the team readiness, the game plans done by the Jets coaching staff vs Kubiaks crew ? Was the personnel of the Jets better, that much better ?
Blitzwood
09-13-2009, 03:38 PM
This Jet's Defense is the best I've seen us face in quite a while, and they are missing two key players:eek: Gibbs and Kubiak should have made some adjustments at half time, but we didn't and now Schaub was getting rid of the ball as fast as he could. Give credit to Rex Ryan for saying what he was gonna do and doing it, while the Texans looked helpless not being able to stop it.
Our defense looked good, liked what I saw out of Barwin, Cush, Ryans, Okoye, and of course Mario. Props to our saftey tandem TD return, that was great, especially for rooks( since Barber didn't much at all last season).
Schaub looked dismal at best, but it's not all on him. Chris Myers was getting killed ALL GAME LONG, and Kubiak made zero adjustments( try putting in Caldwell or doubling Jenkins, SOMETHING!!) , not to mention picking up the blitzes( I thought that's why we drafted Hill, to pick up some of the blitzes against 3-4 teams like the Jets???).
Also wondered why we weren't going for an on side kick after our interception TD in the 4th, especially after the great position we got from the chop-block penalty??
I saw the deer in the headlight look again from our coaching staff and it was bad.
Congrats to Sanchez, you looked 10 times more mobile than our QB, who looked like he had fence posts for legs....
We looked atrocious........
I'm tired of yelling at the TV ,
I gotta go before I punch the monitor.
popanot
09-13-2009, 03:43 PM
I said long ago Kubiak's downfall was going to be his penchant for hiring and putting mediocre/no-name assistant coaches in key positions. We've been seeing it since Day1 of his tenure and it showed in spades today. Baby Shan and Bush were totally overmatched and had no clue what to do. Everyone sucked, but the players were so out of position at times it was ridiculous. Compare that to the Jets who had a man on our WRs @$$ every time they touched the ball (well, what few times Schaub was actually able get it to them). And f'ing Meyers! What a joke!! We might as well of had the head cheerleader out there blocking. Jenkins is a tough assignment, but come on man! The whole OL sucked, but the biggest vacuum came from the C position. You already know all about the suckitude that is our defensive backfield.
nunusguy
09-13-2009, 03:51 PM
I think Mr. McNair has seen just about enough of Mr. Kubiak. I look for a coaching change before the end of the season. How sad. We could have been good if only he hadn't been so damned conservative. The defense, bad as they were, actually looked better than the so called high powered offense. Just blitz the Texans and you've got a win.
I seriously doubt that McNair would fire Kubiak before the end of the season, but then I dunno for sure ? Afterall that happened in the last year of the Capers regime and him lasting out that horrendous year ? I almost feel sorry for McNair, but I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for any billionaire, especially in this economy as they say.
TexanJedi
09-13-2009, 04:21 PM
I seriously doubt that McNair would fire Kubiak before the end of the season, but then I dunno for sure ? Afterall that happened in the last year of the Capers regime and him lasting out that horrendous year ? I almost feel sorry for McNair, but I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for any billionaire, especially in this economy as they say.
I am not happy right now, but Kubiak (and Smith as far as I'm concerned) should be given a chance to right the ship. If they can't do it, then throw a load of money at Cowher. At least he will build a tough team, but I hate the thought of restarting, again. Kubiak took a bad team and turned it into a mediocre team, perhaps Cowher can take a mediocre team and make it into a good team.
I cannot take this team making seemingly every opposing QB look like Joe Montana.
TexicanMexican
09-13-2009, 04:26 PM
I was highly disappointed by the team.
I was at the game so I don't know how it looked on TV but the Texans were beat constantly on the blitzes. The coverage was awful and the blitzes weren't accomplishing much. I thought at one point it was time to call off the dogs and change up the coverages.
The offensive line just got mauled all game. Couldn't open holes for running game and couldn't pass protect.
It's only one game...it's only one game...serenity now...serenity now...
I am beyond disappointed right now. I really want to go on a profanity laced tired but I am emotially spent. We all have waited for 9 months for opening day and we got our asses kicked up and down the field. We had to listen to the Jets fan do their stupid chant in our stadium. Not only does this team drain me of my hard earned money, but now they are messing with my fragile psyche. I might become a recluse this week, only coming out of the house to go buy more Patron. Heck, I can work from the home office and just not deal with anyone all week while I forget about the abomination that I just witnessed. Uggggghhhhhhh.
Maybe I will just try and be a passive fan. Just show up on Sunday and enjoy being able to attend games at a great facility. Forget about draft parties, Fan Fest, open practices.. Why get myself all excited with false hopes for a season, only to be crushed week #1. It is like thinking you are going to score with the hot chick, only to go home by yourself. I am so freakin despondent. No sports talk radio this week. Just happiness this week. Que in sunny 99.1 or a Joel Osteen sermon on how everything is going to be OK.... I am pissed.. So freakin pissed.
Roy P
09-13-2009, 06:06 PM
Schaub with the floater for the INT. Jets ball at the 11.
He had three untouched blitzers coming right at him and only Steve Slaton to pick which one to slow down. This is after consistently getting hammered full steam by the likes of David Harris, Bart Scott, and Kris Jenkins. I'm really just thankful Schaub completed the game and wasn't carted off in a body bag. :mad:
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 06:10 PM
Andre Johnson was blanketed by Revis
I just think that we were horribly outcoached. Revis was just always in the right position because the rush was NO DOUBT coming every play. So most of the time. Revis just sat on the routes while the safety (whether it be rhodes or leornard) doubled over the top.
Side note: that first screen pass to slaton was the worst executed screen I have ever seen professionally. Bart Scott was drilling slaton before Pitts, Brown, or Myers even knew the pass was made. They looked pathetic.
Did Kyle not know they were gonna blitz? Screens and quick slants should've been what was worked on all week long.
Did they not know Jenkins was 10 times stronger than Myers? Or did they think that Myers had suddenly taken his steroids and was gonna hold his own.
They looked ridiculously lost out there. Boo Kubiak, Kyle, and Bush
Big Texas
09-13-2009, 06:22 PM
I think I will blow my top if I hear Kubiak this week talking about how the defense did a few good things and how we need to work on our timing, blah, blah, blah...
He needs to come out and say, we got our asses kicked, and we are gonna have to start looking at changing up some lineups, specifically Chris Myers.
Also, I have not finished replaying the game, but did Hill EVER come in the game? I'm sure he would've done better than slaton taking on 250 pound linebackers all day.
That was a disgrace. Now I have to face all these haters tomorrow. Even the 49ers are having a better game against the NFC champions.
At least StL got shut out. We were not the WORST team in the league this week.
We did not score AT ALL on offense. That is an ass kicking.
He had three untouched blitzers coming right at him and only Steve Slaton to pick which one to slow down. This is after consistently getting hammered full steam by the likes of David Harris, Bart Scott, and Kris Jenkins. I'm really just thankful Schaub completed the game and wasn't carted off in a body bag. :mad:
You want to 'rassle? Is that it? ;)
The ball *was* a floater - I calls 'em like I sees 'em. I don't care what they are feeding us out of Reliant/Kirby, I don't think the ankle was "fine" and Schaub was not himself today. His accuracy was off and though he's not a big arm guy, there was, IMO, no steam on any lengthy passes. I don't think he was even 80%. One of, if not his worst game as a Texan. We never made it to the redzone much less midfield. Good for him to show he's a gamer but the team takes an "L"... Give him all the time he needs to heal if he needs it - I'd rather see a healthy QB that is zipping the ball around...
nunusguy
09-13-2009, 08:38 PM
You want to 'rassle? Is that it? ;)
The ball *was* a floater - I calls 'em like I sees 'em. I don't care what they are feeding us out of Reliant/Kirby, I don't think the ankle was "fine" and Schaub was not himself today. His accuracy was off and though he's not a big arm guy, there was, IMO, no steam on any lengthy passes. I don't think he was even 80%. One of, if not his worst game as a Texan. We never made it to the redzone much less midfield. Good for him to show he's a gamer but the team takes an "L"... Give him all the time he needs to heal if he needs it - I'd rather see a healthy QB that is zipping the ball around...
Afterwards, Gary Kubiak said what everyone at Reliant Stadium could see. Matt Schaub isn't close to being healthy.
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/texans/
Blitzwood
09-13-2009, 08:53 PM
Afterwards, Gary Kubiak said what everyone at Reliant Stadium could see. Matt Schaub isn't close to being healthy.
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/texans/
Healthy or not, it wouldn't have mattered, he was getting knocked on his a$$ every other down by blitzes or that missing link, Jenkins. Ryan's defensive montage of blitzes were coming every down, and we were obviously ill prepared, even after he said he was bringing the heat every down!!
Afterwards, Gary Kubiak said what everyone at Reliant Stadium could see. Matt Schaub isn't close to being healthy.
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/texans/
Thanks for the link, nunusguy. Makes more sense, now....
And ya, Schaub didn't get much help at all...
Nconroe
09-13-2009, 09:46 PM
Yeah, our OL stunk , got run over, no chance of anything else to work. I think coaches should have taken out Schaub once they saw OL was overmatched. Otherwise, worst I've seen the Texans look overall. sad. sad day.
Dennis2112
09-13-2009, 09:49 PM
I am not one to pile on and I don't think its as dire as it may look.
However, it does not take a phi-beta-kappa in football to see that we had breakdowns on almost every play. many times we were having issues at multiple positions on the same play.
Now I believe the defense played decent but they had many missed assignments as well.
this was a complete breakdown on the offensive side of the ball and it caused the few mistakes that the defense made even larger.
Anyways, time to start to focus on the Titans
Nconroe
09-13-2009, 10:05 PM
I guess the Defense did ok, afterall, they only ran for 180 yards, had 480 yards total offense, no sacks, did have one int turnover late, 8 plays over 20 yards and only 24 points. I would give you our special teams looked fairly well other than a few stupid penalties. It will be great to be 0-2 after next week, now I feel better.
Dennis2112
09-13-2009, 10:19 PM
I guess the Defense did ok, afterall, they only ran for 180 yards, had 480 yards total offense, no sacks, did have one int turnover late, 8 plays over 20 yards and only 24 points. I would give you our special teams looked fairly well other than a few stupid penalties.
Now I have to admit, those are some rough numbers. However, I would submit that many of those "bad" numbers could have been since the defense was on the field nearly ALL game. I really can't blame the defense on this one.
Not saying they are blameless but they were far less the issue on this day.
It will be great to be 0-2 after next week, now I feel better.
As the last part you mentioned, are you implying that you wish them to lose next week or that you feel that we are too poor a team to win?
I want to go on record as saying we will win next week but everyone is entitled to their opinion....but I am sure it will appear that I am going out on a limb and that's ok too...LOL
GO TEXANS!!!!!
ALWAYS!!!!!
coloradodude
09-13-2009, 10:30 PM
Some good news?
We rank just above the Panthers and just below the Chiefs in total yards on offense...#25.
On defense, we rank #23.
Nconroe
09-13-2009, 10:31 PM
very good response I guess, very positive. I am usually pretty positive, I thought they might win the game today and go 12-4 and make playoffs until somewhere around third quarter today. I hope they beat Titans. I guess on my optimistic side they are now down to 11-5 still possible if they do fix a few items quickly. I think I will still be talking about how bad they were today for atleast 1-2 more days however.
Dennis2112
09-13-2009, 10:55 PM
I completely understand your feelings and their play left me with a feeling of disappointment as well.
If they do not "man up" next week and get it right going in the correct path, I shudder to think how the rest of the season turns out.
Its a shame they did not take this game, it would have made next week much less stressed. Of course as a lifelong Houston fan, its not our way to have it "easy"...LOL
Fonz the Boss
09-14-2009, 03:14 AM
My very first ever season opener in attendance and I came out drunk and disappointed. I am usually very realistic. Given that we are in a tough division and on a conference that has most of the tougher NFL teams, I didnt think the Texans were gonna make the playoffs this year. I have them missing out with my predicted season record of 9-7. However, I didnt expect them to lose against the Jets at home in our season opener. Now they are in a must win situation or they are looking at possibly an 0-3 when the Jaguars come to town after the Titans.
I am not one to pile on and I don't think its as dire as it may look.
However, it does not take a phi-beta-kappa in football to see that we had breakdowns on almost every play. many times we were having issues at multiple positions on the same play.
Now I believe the defense played decent but they had many missed assignments as well.
this was a complete breakdown on the offensive side of the ball and it caused the few mistakes that the defense made even larger.
Anyways, time to start to focus on the Titans
Really? Just curious and not trying to be an ass, but what makes you think it is not as dire as it looks? You pointed out there are breakdowns on almost every play. We've looked the same way against the Saints, Vikings and now the Jets. Please, pump me some sunshine why to be positive.
Kubiak needed to do a Jim Mora rant. That would have made me feel better instead of being pissed for the past 16 hours. Please, just say we sucked.
I'l say it for him. We SUCKED!!! Hot horse manure would have been an improvement, because at least it would have been warm.
I seriously doubt that McNair would fire Kubiak before the end of the season, but then I dunno for sure ? Afterall that happened in the last year of the Capers regime and him lasting out that horrendous year ? I almost feel sorry for McNair, but I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for any billionaire, especially in this economy as they say.
Why not? If McNair is committed to what he said about another 8-8 not being good enough. Why not cut your losses so to speak, and get a fire eating coach that will demand execution from the get go? We have the talent, it is just not being used to best advantage.
nunusguy
09-16-2009, 10:08 PM
Why not? If McNair is committed to what he said about another 8-8 not being good enough. Why not cut your losses so to speak, and get a fire eating coach that will demand execution from the get go? We have the talent, it is just not being used to best advantage.
Forget what I said about not firing Kubiak after that performance he and his offense gave us Sunday. Losing was not a total surprise for me, but losing in that manner was, so now I have no idea what to expect from the Texans or the length of time Kubiak has remaining on his job here ?
barrett
09-16-2009, 10:16 PM
Why not? If McNair is committed to what he said about another 8-8 not being good enough. Why not cut your losses so to speak, and get a fire eating coach that will demand execution from the get go? We have the talent, it is just not being used to best advantage.
what exactly do you mean by a "fire eating" coach?
The NFL's best coach is a robot that probably didn't even show passion on his wedding night.
I'll forgo the "fire eating" and will go for a guy who knows X and O football and how to coach it.
Fonz the Boss
09-16-2009, 11:17 PM
what exactly do you mean by a "fire eating" coach?
The NFL's best coach is a robot that probably didn't even show passion on his wedding night.
I'll forgo the "fire eating" and will go for a guy who knows X and O football and how to coach it.
Why not somebody that does both.... like Bill Cowher.
nunusguy
09-17-2009, 07:05 AM
My initial impressive of Cushings performance was positive, and still is after a second look at Sundays game which I recorded. Problem now is that I realize he wasn't on the field much in nickel situations ? Is this because of his limitations in the preseason, which prevented any playing time in the games and therefor no opportunite to practice in nickel packages ?
In most nickel situations as we know a DB is added and a LB is removed and if Cushing is going to be the odd-man out among the LBs and DeMeco
and Diles (or Adibi) are the 2 backers remaining on the field, then we're back to the major reason many of us didn't want Cushing (or any 4-3 SAM) drafted
with the 15th pick of the first round: he's not a 3-down player.
I think Cush being removed is more a product of them limiting his snaps coming back from the injury. I think we will see him as a blitzer as the season progresses.
Fonz the Boss
09-17-2009, 01:31 PM
I would take Adibi over Cushing any day... I didnt like the Cush pick anyways. Adibi is faster and can cover ground better than Cushing.
barrett
09-17-2009, 03:18 PM
I would take Adibi over Cushing any day... I didnt like the Cush pick anyways. Adibi is faster and can cover ground better than Cushing.
Have you watched Adibi lately? He made huge mistakes almost everytime he got on the field in the preseason. He is either a small LB who can't play the run or a slow SS who can't cover. Either way I don't think he is an NFL football player.
Fonz the Boss
09-17-2009, 10:52 PM
Have you watched Adibi lately? He made huge mistakes almost everytime he got on the field in the preseason. He is either a small LB who can't play the run or a slow SS who can't cover. Either way I don't think he is an NFL football player.
He wasnt any of those descriptions last year. And what sucks is that maybe he wont get a chance to bounce back this year if his play time is limited because of Brian Juicing... I mean Cushing.
For those that missed it - check out Keith's writeup (http://inthebullseye.com) on the Jets game on the front page. Always worth a read after a game and is on my own weekly reading list....
barrett
09-18-2009, 07:46 AM
He wasnt any of those descriptions last year. And what sucks is that maybe he wont get a chance to bounce back this year if his play time is limited because of Brian Juicing... I mean Cushing.
What he was last year was hurt for over half the season.
Not to mention your argument is pointless because him and cushing play different positions. Adibi is currently on the bench because he was beaten out at WLB by Zac Diles. Cushing plays the SLB, a position where Adibi has never taken a snap.
papabear
09-18-2009, 08:15 AM
He wasnt any of those descriptions last year. And what sucks is that maybe he wont get a chance to bounce back this year if his play time is limited because of Brian Juicing... I mean Cushing.
I had high hopes for Adibi, and I still think there's a chance he turns into a decent player. That being said he has not looked good at all this year. He is constantly over-playing running plays and has been only average in coverage. He saw plenty of snaps last week, and I'm sure the coaches will give him every opportunity to take over for Diles.
Like Barret said though, Diles has outplayed him thus far. The only way Cushing has anything to do with Adibi is if he gets hurt and Diles goes back to strong side.
I have been out of town until today (Sunday vs the Titans), and what a difference a week makes. WE WON! But which is the true Texans team?
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