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painekiller
03-15-2009, 02:36 AM
I admit I stole this list from a post on TT.com (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1140328&postcount=26). JWarren14 posted this list from Scouts inc.

William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


If you can add to this please do.

popanot
03-15-2009, 09:01 AM
Are these vists at the combine or scheduled personal vists?

painekiller
03-15-2009, 12:41 PM
Are these vists at the combine or scheduled personal vists?

The post only said they had been contacted by the Texans. Some of these are going to be smoke screens, and some might be legit interest on the Texans part.

I do not subscribe to Scout's Inc, so someone here who does might be able to answer popanot's question better. Help please?

popanot
03-15-2009, 01:05 PM
I doubt this list is all inclusive, but nonetheless, I'm surprised Cushing isn't on it. Smoke screen or no interest??? Hmmm....

nunusguy
03-15-2009, 01:29 PM
Good stuff PK ! But it leaves a lot to the imagination, but that 's part of the fun I guess, trying to speculate what this might mean ? For example, quckly browsing the list I count more WRs than any other position ? I dunno what that's suppose to mean since I tend to think of it as our strongest position on either side of the ball ?
Kinda along these same lines, I've yet to see the Texans mentioned as being present at any of the Pro-Days ?

painekiller
03-15-2009, 02:38 PM
Good stuff PK ! But it leaves a lot to the imagination, but that 's part of the fun I guess, trying to speculate what this might mean ? For example, quckly browsing the list I count more WRs than any other position ? I dunno what that's suppose to mean since I tend to think of it as our strongest position on either side of the ball ?
Kinda along these same lines, I've yet to see the Texans mentioned as being present at any of the Pro-Days ?


WR/PR could mean Jacoby Jones is on a short rope.

Mike
03-15-2009, 03:24 PM
I doubt this list is all inclusive, but nonetheless, I'm surprised Cushing isn't on it. Smoke screen or no interest??? Hmmm....

This regime of Smith and Kubiak play it much closer to the vest than Charlie ever did.

Charlie loved to leak stuff to McClain and Little Dickie off the record. LD now has to work for a story and instead chooses to preach his brand of sanctimonious crapola.

NBT
03-15-2009, 05:04 PM
WR/PR could mean Jacoby Jones is on a short rope.

I thought that when we met David Anderson's contract. I would think they are seriously investigating anybody else's interest in JJ. Draft Day Trade........?

kravix
03-15-2009, 07:50 PM
4CB and 6 WR?

I think that Kubiak and Smith use the combine interviews as much as a smoke screen as using it to get more of a personal understnading of guys that will be depth/ST players and players with possible personality conflicts.

jppaul
03-15-2009, 07:59 PM
The post only said they had been contacted by the Texans. Some of these are going to be smoke screens, and some might be legit interest on the Texans part.

I do not subscribe to Scout's Inc, so someone here who does might be able to answer popanot's question better. Help please?

Scouts Inc. is espn's scouting division. Scout.com is someone else, sorry no help here

jppaul
03-15-2009, 08:13 PM
On that list, I see:

William Moore (S, Mizzou): Low first high second round safety, maybe a target with the 2nd pick, but I don't think first.
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma): Weakside LB, maybe a target in the later rounds, 5?
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama): 2nd round safety
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest): 4th rounder safety?
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State): 1st round CB maybe a safety for us
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois): 1st round CB, again maybe being looked at as a safety, or he could be looked at as a corner, maybe more so than Jenkins
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State):Corner depth possible safety transition player, 5th round
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States): Corner Depth, maybe 4th rounder
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee): Late first, or second round DE
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati): 2nd round versatility prospect
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State): First round DE
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut): Second round DE, OLB, pass rush specalist
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss): MLB or WLB 3rd rounder
Clay Matthews (LB, USC): First round OLB with pass rush skills
Larry English (LB/DE UNI): Late first or second round pass rush specalist or OLB
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida): 5th or 6th round swing tackle
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland): 7th round guard
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas): 4th round WR/KR
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida): 3rd round WR
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma): 3rd round WR
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State): 2nd or 3rd round WR
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou): 1st round WR
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina): 2nd round TE

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State

Roy P
03-15-2009, 10:12 PM
I admit I stole this list

William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)

Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


If you can add to this please do.

Just happy to see so many of My Guys on the list. Probably just smoke screens.

jppaul
03-16-2009, 10:57 AM
Just happy to see so many of My Guys on the list. Probably just smoke screens.

I don't know, those are all interesting. Even Jared Cook could be picked if we don't keep OD. Maclin if he falls to 15, which I doubt, would be an exceptional value.

kRocket
03-16-2009, 04:58 PM
Interesting that the only two interior OL players are very late round choices and NO DT's are present on the list! That would indicate Gibbs is happy with what we have or there is a real defensive need, but they like Okam, Robinson, and Okoye as is. Curious!

BigBull
03-17-2009, 03:24 PM
I don't know, those are all interesting. Even Jared Cook could be picked if we don't keep OD. Maclin if he falls to 15, which I doubt, would be an exceptional value.
I think even if he falls the Texans need to just say no to fast wrs that can burn but just aren't that good at actually catching the ball. They already have one of them on the team.

kravix
03-17-2009, 03:29 PM
I think even if he falls the Texans need to just say no to fast wrs that can burn but just aren't that good at actually catching the ball. They already have one of them on the team.

And he can only do that when he isnt doing the electric slide.

Keith
03-17-2009, 03:53 PM
Probably just smoke screens.
Unless I'm mistaken, teams (outside of their division or conference) sometimes get into small groups or pairs and pool interview notes in part because it is too hard to get to everyone. As such, reading too much into these reports of visits is a bit of a fool's errand imo. For all we know, the Texans are talking to a bunch of WRs for the Cowboys or Bucs while taking info from the same on LBs and safeties.

Anyone remember that story of when the Broncos drafted Cutler? (Put recent news aside for a moment.) Cutler never once talked to the team before the draft... and that was their first round pick at quarterback.

Roy P
03-17-2009, 08:10 PM
I think even if he falls the Texans need to just say no to fast wrs that can burn but just aren't that good at actually catching the ball. They already have one of them on the team.

Are you talking about JMac or DHB? Jeremy Maclin is pretty good at actually catching the ball.

BigBull
03-17-2009, 10:32 PM
Are you talking about JMac or DHB? Jeremy Maclin is pretty good at actually catching the ball.

That would be Maclin another JJ waiting to happen in my humble opinion.

popanot
03-18-2009, 05:33 AM
I'd rather have Percy Harvin over Maclin. Harvin can do everything Maclin can do, but is big enough and has the muscle mass to fill in at RB in a pinch. Of course, you wouldn't want to play him there for an extended period, but he could do it if need be. You can't do that with Maclin. I'd use Harvin much the same way the Aint's use Bush. I see a lot of Reggie Bush/Steve Smith in Harvin, whereas, I see a lot of Desmond Howard/Eric Metcalf in Maclin. Not sure why that is, but I do.

jppaul
03-18-2009, 11:23 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, teams (outside of their division or conference) sometimes get into small groups or pairs and pool interview notes in part because it is too hard to get to everyone. As such, reading too much into these reports of visits is a bit of a fool's errand imo. For all we know, the Texans are talking to a bunch of WRs for the Cowboys or Bucs while taking info from the same on LBs and safeties.

Anyone remember that story of when the Broncos drafted Cutler? (Put recent news aside for a moment.) Cutler never once talked to the team before the draft... and that was their first round pick at quarterback.

Yeah they were shocked that he fell I think.

Bigtinylittle
03-18-2009, 11:28 AM
Maybe that was their mistake. Maybe they SHOULD have talked to him!:)

painekiller
03-18-2009, 12:29 PM
Maybe that was their mistake. Maybe they SHOULD have talked to him!:)

Their scouts had talked to him on campus during the college season. Shanahan loved the report on the kid and his combine work out at the combine made Shanahan salivate. He did not let any one know his desire, but Shanahan had Cutler targeted prior to draft day. He knew he was going to trade up for the kid, only he did not let any one else know that.

If you read about Shanahan and Gruden, they are good friend and they both tend to like the same players. IMO Shanahan was worried Gruden would try to leapfrog him to get Cutler had he been aware of the interest. Plus Shanahan is known for keeping his cards close to the vest.

His actions where pretty much in line with his character.

jppaul
03-27-2009, 11:50 AM
Andre Brown is coming to town per pft.

jppaul
03-27-2009, 08:21 PM
and Greg Toler from St. Paul

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/27/st-pauls-toler-is-an-nfl-sleeper/

Roy P
03-27-2009, 08:47 PM
and Greg Toler from St. Paul

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/27/st-pauls-toler-is-an-nfl-sleeper/

Charlie Casserly mentioned him as a sleeper on Path to the Draft.

I'm warming up to Norfolk State's Don Carey, myself. He looked pretty decent at the Shriner Game.

jppaul
03-27-2009, 11:18 PM
Haven't compared to see how many of these players the Texans have been mentioned as having an interest in, but New Era Scouting runs a team interest page

Houston Texans

Cody Brown, DE, Connecticut FI
Coye Francies, CB, San Jose State I
Nic Harris, S/LB, Oklahoma I
Clay Matthews, OLB, USC I
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia I
William Moore, FS, Missouri I
Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State I
Chip Vaughn, SS, Wake Forest I
Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma I
Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State I

texan
03-28-2009, 10:42 AM
Andre Brown is coming to town per pft.

Good news, I think he's my favorite of the 3rd/4th round backs.

Roy P
03-28-2009, 12:46 PM
Good news, I think he's my favorite of the 3rd/4th round backs.

I'm hopeful that they take a look at Rashad Jennings and Cedric Peerman too.

jppaul
03-28-2009, 09:09 PM
Add E.J. Biggers, a cb snubbed by the combine who blazed a 4.35 at Western Michigan's Pro Day http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/28/biggers-turning-combine-snub-into-big-buzz/

Roy P
03-29-2009, 12:26 AM
I'm hopeful that they take a look at Rashad Jennings and Cedric Peerman too.

On second thought, we really need to take a look at Javarris Williams. I'm not quite sure why this guy isn't getting more love from mock drafters.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1248564

He has the balance to push the opponent upon contact and flashes enough short area burst and acceleration to move the chains.

He excels in the classroom, graduating in just under four years and has made the Dean's List.

He likes to get the ball in pressure situations and when he stays low in his pads, he can get decent yardage between the tackles.

Williams has that ethic that never lets him get complacent with his ability. He studies films, spends extra hours in the training room and takes well to hard coaching. He is a leader-by-example type, but will not hesitate to get vocal with a teammate not performing to standards. He practices as hard as he plays and is very accountable.

Williams' low center of gravity and strong lower base lets him break tackles or drag defenders for extra yardage. He shows good forward lean and it is rare for an opponent to stuff him behind the line of scrimmage (only lost 5.5 percent of the yardage he attempted to gain during his career, 253 lost/4,329 gained). He is stiff in his hips when redirecting, but keeps his feet and shoulders square to push the pile. He has the natural knee bend to sink and uncoil, doing a good job in maintaining body control.

Williams is an effective downhill runner with the balance and leg drive to break tackles. He doesn't show good hip wiggle, but does have a feel for the cutback lanes. He runs hard, giving a solid effort to move through the trash. With his ability to stay at a low pad level, he can run through defenders on initial contact. He runs with good body lean and works to finish while maintaining balance. He has a good feel for reading his blockers and will get the hard yards up the middle when he keeps his shoulders squared.

He has good one-cut agility and the body control to adjust on the move, along with valid vision and instincts. With his low center of gravity, he is better off taking the ball up the gut rather than try to generate a second gear needed to elude and take the ball to the house on the outside.

painekiller
03-29-2009, 01:09 AM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Updated to the list
E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia I

Roy P
03-29-2009, 10:02 AM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State

E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia I

I find it interesting that we've talked to a couple of my top guys in hopes that they'll be available.

McClain reports we'll be drafting an OLB and a DB in the 1st 2 rounds and a RB in the 3rd. It's starting to look like Andre Brown may be a 2nd round pick, so there may be some shuffling that needs to take place. Maybe Keenan Lewis in the 3rd if Brown is the 2nd round pick.

I'm also noticing a lot of CBs who aren't considered 1st day prospects are bing inspected.

jppaul
03-30-2009, 01:30 PM
This will make some people happy, we are bringing Johnny Knox in for a visit:

http://www.kffl.com/team/18/nfl

painekiller
03-30-2009, 04:49 PM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Updated to the list
E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian ( thanks jp)

jppaul
03-30-2009, 05:22 PM
Welcome, pk.

TexanJedi
03-30-2009, 08:23 PM
From looking at that list can we nail down the positions the Texans are targeting - LB, S, CB, DE, WR, OL, RB, and maybe TE? We have 8 picks, I think.

Roy P
03-30-2009, 10:29 PM
From looking at that list can we nail down the positions the Texans are targeting - LB, S, CB, DE, WR, OL, RB, and maybe TE? We have 8 picks, I think.

Jason Watkins is the OL?

Why not a single DT? I suppose we already have Frank Okam and Shaun Cody.

Luckily we are looking for a WR to replace Jacoby Jones who replaced the last pain in my ass, Jerome Mathis.

Can anybody name a really good TE who can run block? That's what I thought. Try John Phillips from UVA. Think we have any scouts at his games?

I would suppose that the Texans are eyeing him to be the next Mark Bruener.

painekiller
03-31-2009, 02:42 AM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Schedule Visits W/Texans (only guys not already mentioned)

E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian
Jamaal Westerman DE/LB Rutgers
Tony Carter CB Florida State

Keith
03-31-2009, 04:41 PM
Been kinda sad for being a wet blanket on this thread earlier and didn't want to post this, but ah hell, here I go. From Kuharksy's ESPN.com AFC South blog (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/0-8-146/Don-t-overvalue-visits.html):


Generally speaking, it's a bad idea to think a team is going to take a guy just because they have him to town.

So, I will not generally use this space to spend much time telling you John Doe was in Houston to meet with the Texans because:

For every John Doe I learn about, there could be three others I don't hear about and naming a small percentage of the guys can serve to be misleading. I know the Titans announce their visitors in a couple of big lists and we will share something that comes out like that, still offering a disclaimer. But what if the agent for Player B advertises the stops his guy makes and the agent for Player B does not? The guy with the talkative agent is no more likely to get drafted by a particular team than the one with quiet representation.
The Texans may be meeting with Doe to finish crossing them off their list because of his balky knee/ankle/attitude/arrest history.
The Texans are probably like most teams in that they draft plenty of guys they had multiple meetings with and plenty of guys they've hardly talked to. On draft day, lot of guys say, "Yeah, I knew the Texans were interested in me way back at the Senior Bowl" while others say "Never did I imagine it would be Houston; the Texans aren't one of the teams I've spoken to, ever."

painekiller
03-31-2009, 06:23 PM
Been kinda sad for being a wet blanket on this thread earlier and didn't want to post this, but ah hell, here I go. From Kuharksy's ESPN.com AFC South blog (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/0-8-146/Don-t-overvalue-visits.html):

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Caveat emptor. Just because he is on the list does not mean it a good thing not being on the list is not a bad thing.

painekiller
04-01-2009, 05:07 PM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Schedule Visits W/Texans (only guys not already mentioned)

E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s 5-11, 191 4.35 He intercepted 14 career passes
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian
Jamaal Westerman DE/LB Rutgers
Tony Carter CB Florida State
Tyrell Williams TE Stephen F Austin

jppaul
04-02-2009, 05:31 PM
Another one for you list, a mid round CB, Round 4-6, Rutger's Jason McCourty:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/02/rutgers-mccourty-drawing-interest/

BTW, Caveat Emptor means Buyer Beware, meaning that you have a duty to investigate your potential purchase. Not that you didn't know that PK but for anybody who didn't.

painekiller
04-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Another one for you list, a mid round CB, Round 4-6, Rutger's Jason McCourty:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/02/rutgers-mccourty-drawing-interest/

BTW, Caveat Emptor means Buyer Beware, meaning that you have a duty to investigate your potential purchase. Not that you didn't know that PK but for anybody who didn't.

Yep and player a being on the list and player b not, doesn't mean a thing about who we will draft. So which story am I buying, smoke screen or due diligence, Caveat Emptor.

Hope that clears up my use here.

painekiller
04-02-2009, 06:28 PM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Schedule Visits W/Texans (only guys not already mentioned)

E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s 5-11, 191 4.35 He intercepted 14 career passes
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian
Jamaal Westerman DE/LB Rutgers
Tony Carter CB Florida State
Tyrell Williams TE Stephen F Austin
Jason McCourty CB Rutgers thanks again jp

painekiller
04-09-2009, 10:56 AM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Michael Mitchell (S Ohio University)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Schedule Visits W/Texans (only guys not already mentioned)

E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s 5-11, 191 4.35 He intercepted 14 career passes
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian
Jamaal Westerman DE/LB Rutgers
Tony Carter CB Florida State
Tyrell Williams TE Stephen F Austin
Jason McCourty CB Rutgers
Andy Levitre OG Oregon St.
Chase Clement QB Rice
James Casey TE Rice
Jarett Dillard WR Rice
Mark Hafner TE Houston
Phillip Hunt DE Houston
Bobby Reid QB Texas Southern
Melvin Bennett DE Texas A&M

TexanJedi
04-09-2009, 12:29 PM
NFL | Four teams spoke with M. Mitchell at Pro Day

Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:21:48 -0700
Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports Ohio University S Michael Mitchell said the Cleveland Browns, Indianapolis Colts, Houston Texans and Detroit Lions all spoke with him at his Pro Day.

painekiller
04-09-2009, 01:00 PM
NFL | Four teams spoke with M. Mitchell at Pro Day

Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:21:48 -0700
Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports Ohio University S Michael Mitchell said the Cleveland Browns, Indianapolis Colts, Houston Texans and Detroit Lions all spoke with him at his Pro Day.

Thanks Jedi, I added it above.

TexanJedi
04-14-2009, 08:57 PM
BRANDON MYERS RACKING UP THE MILES
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 14, 2009, 7:27 p.m.
University of Iowa tight end Brandon Myers is visiting the Houston Texans, Oakland Raiders, and the Seattle Seahawks this week, according to a league source.

Myers has also visited the Chicago Bears and the Cincinnati Bengals.

The 6′4″, 250-pound tight end ran the 40-yard dash between 4.72 and 4.78 seconds at his Pro Day workout at Iowa, also posting a 31-inch vertical leap and a 9′8″ broad jump.

Myers was named All-Big Ten honorable mention last season.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/14/brandon-myers-racking-up-the-miles/

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/brandon-myers?id=89766

It sounds like he could be a red zone target.

painekiller
04-14-2009, 10:36 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/brandon-myers?id=89766

It sounds like he could be a red zone target.

I've known his uncle for about 8 years, he has a place here. This family has had a few player in the NFL in two different generations.

I'll add him to our list, thanks again jedi.

painekiller
04-14-2009, 10:39 PM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Michael Mitchell (S Ohio University)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Schedule Visits W/Texans (only guys not already mentioned)

E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s 5-11, 191 4.35 He intercepted 14 career passes
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian
Jamaal Westerman DE/LB Rutgers
Tony Carter CB Florida State
Tyrell Williams TE Stephen F Austin
Jason McCourty CB Rutgers
Andy Levitre OG Oregon St.
Chase Clement QB Rice
James Casey TE Rice
Jarett Dillard WR Rice
Mark Hafner TE Houston
Phillip Hunt DE Houston
Bobby Reid QB Texas Southern
Melvin Bennett DE Texas A&M

Brandon Myers TE Iowa

TexanJedi
04-20-2009, 01:59 PM
Laurinaitis has taken official visits with the New Orleans Saints, Houston Texans and the Kansas City Chiefs.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/20/laurinaitis-i-think-they-realize-what-theyre-getting/

I did not see this posted, and man I wish we had a paper (or maybe it's the team being tight lipped) that reported on visits as others do.

nunusguy
04-20-2009, 04:25 PM
I did not see this posted, and man I wish we had a paper (or maybe it's the team being tight lipped) that reported on visits as others do.
I've never seen anybody say that Laurinaitis could play any position in the NFL but MLB which leads to the only conclusion possible, which is the Texans haven't completely closed the door to the idea of moving DeMeco to OLB.

jppaul
04-20-2009, 04:34 PM
Yeah Lauranitis could probably play MLB or WLB but I don't see him as a Sam.

Roy P
04-20-2009, 05:34 PM
I've never seen anybody say that Laurinaitis could play any position in the NFL but MLB which leads to the only conclusion possible, which is the Texans haven't completely closed the door to the idea of moving DeMeco to OLB.

Where have you been looking? Maybe they expect him to slide into the 2nd round, much like DeMeco did during his draft.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563624

He might be a better fit for an outside position, as he shows a good flow to the ball, but it's unlikely he has the physical strength to match up to the more physical NFL blockers attacking from the middle (more of a pile-on tackler than one that steps up to initiate contact). He has the speed and range to cover the field coming from the outside and that quickness seems a better fit for him to apply pressure coming off the edge.

He is not effective in his backside pursuit due to getting absorbed by bigger blockers, making him a better candidate to play on the outside, due to a combination of adequate strength and his good ability to flow to the ball when giving long distance chases.

His lack of raw strength playing inside is a bit of a concern, especially when trying to play off blocks, making me feel he is better suited as a weak-side outside linebacker. He does play with good knee bend and keeps his hands active in attempts to shed. He is just not the type that will fill hard or stack at the point of attack, as he can be pinned and sealed by the bigger opponent and must work around blocks rather than take them on.

Lateral Pursuit/Range: Laurinaitis knows this is one of his better assets, and would be better utilized like A.J. Hawk (Packers) as a weak-side linebacker, he will be much more productive than he can be in the middle. He struggles at time to get through traffic and maintain position at the point of attack, but plays with good effort and better production in pursuit.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/protected/archive/2009DRAFT/PlayerProfiles/James.Laurinaitis.htm

James is a solid player who might be playing out of position at the college level and could have more of an impact at the NFL level as a rush OLB in a 4-3 defense that uses a lot of zone coverage in defending the pass.

I could see him playing for the Garden State Giants because they have such good down linemen; James would fit that situation very well. The Giants have the luxury of playing their LB's back off the line further than most LB's in a 4-3 play. This allows less athletic LB's to have better angles and not such long drops in the passing game.

Blitzwood
04-20-2009, 06:05 PM
Funny,
I mentioned this(us taking J.L. as our Will) on John McClain's blog and he said no way, he was a MLB.....

I think he'd be great as our will and could play mike in a pinch.

nunusguy
04-20-2009, 08:35 PM
JLs athleticism was seriously panned after his combine workouts and everything I heard about him after that was he just couldn't play WIL (that's of course the most athletically demanding of LB positions), or move well enough to react and cover a TE like a Dallas Clark as a SAM, which meant he was another LB who's limited to 1st & 2nd down.

painekiller
04-21-2009, 01:34 PM
Funny,
I mentioned this(us taking J.L. as our Will) on John McClain's blog and he said no way, he was a MLB.....

I think he'd be great as our will and could play mike in a pinch.
I consider him to slow for the WILL, he could play it but not as well as he would be at SAM or Mike.

nunusguy
04-21-2009, 09:58 PM
In your most recent mock you have the Texans trading back. Do you think they would consider drafting James Laurinaitis? I was surprised to see that they had him out for an official visit. I didn't think he fit their scheme. I was under the impression he was more of an inside guy. What's your take?

I was surprised to see he visited as well, but he is the kind of guy they would like. In fact, if they trade back to the mid 20s, I actually think Laurinaitis would be the guy and I think he would play weakside LB, but maybe he could play SLB. http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2009/04/nfl_draft_offense_top_10_per_p_1.html
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That's Zeirlands response in his blog to a query about the Texans possible
interest in the OSU backer and LZs thoughts about his ability to play on the outside.

painekiller
04-22-2009, 10:19 PM
William Moore (S, Mizzou)
Nic Harris (S/LB, Oklahoma)
Rashad Johnson (S, Alabama)
Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
Michael Mitchell (S Ohio University)
Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State)
Vontae Davis (CB, Illinois)
Keenan Lewis (CB, Oregon State)
Coye Francies (CB, San Jose States)
Robert Ayers (DE, Tennessee)
Connor Barwin (DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati)
Everette Brown (DE, Florida State)
Cody Brown (DE, Connecticut)
Gerald McGrath (LB, Southern Miss)
Clay Matthews (LB, USC)
Larry English (LB/DE UNI)
Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
Jaimie Thomas (OL, Maryland)
Quan Cosby (WR, Texas)
Louis Murphy (WR, Florida)
Juaquin Iglesias (WR, Oklahoma)
Derrick Williams (WR, Penn State)
Jeremy Maclin (WR, Mizzou)
Jared Cook (TE, South Carolina)

Also rumored to have visited the Texans at the Combine where
Demetrius Byrd, WR, LSU
Andre Brown, RB, NC State


Scheduled Visits W/Texans (only guys not already mentioned)

E.J. Biggers CB Western Michigan
Greg Tolar CB St. Paul’s 5-11, 191 4.35 He intercepted 14 career passes
Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia
Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian
Jamaal Westerman DE/LB Rutgers
Tony Carter CB Florida State
Tyrell Williams TE Stephen F Austin
Jason McCourty CB Rutgers
Andy Levitre OG Oregon St.
Chase Clement QB Rice
James Casey TE Rice
Jarett Dillard WR Rice
Mark Hafner TE Houston
Phillip Hunt DE Houston
Bobby Reid QB Texas Southern
Melvin Bennett DE Texas A&M
Brandon Myers TE Iowa
James Laurinaitis, ILB Ohio State