Official Texans vs. Vikings Game Thread, 8/31/2009 - Page 6

Nconroe · #**101** 08-31-2009, 09:45 PM

ok, I think JJ is better than Martinez. Hope JJ makes the team. JJ looks much more confident this year than last year. not saying Martinez is all bad.

anyways, lots of difference in the game now that third stringers are in. Sage looks rusty.

chuck · #**102** 08-31-2009, 09:48 PM

Wow. Arian foster breaks through for an amazing nine yard gain!!!

Arky · #**103** 08-31-2009, 09:51 PM

JJ wrapped up about the Texan 12 on the punt.

Brink in at QB for the Texans.

Nice gain by A Foster - about 9 yards.

Martinez for about 10 via pass.

Dump off to Foster good for another 1st down.

Not much Foster on 2nd down. Brings up 3rd and 10.

Screen goes inc. 2:18 left

Texans go for it on 4th down - ball sails - Vikes ball.

Nconroe · #**104** 08-31-2009, 09:56 PM

did ya'll see the block Foster put on LB trying to blitz, pretty good.

Arky · #**105** 08-31-2009, 09:58 PM

Vikes moving the ball - now at the Texan 21. 2 minute warning.

Vikes to kneel it out.

Final Score:

Viking 17, Texans 10

Take away Peterson's big run and the defense not all that bad.... certainly better than last week which is somewhat encouraging...

chuck · #**106** 08-31-2009, 10:02 PM

Well, if you wanted to know about your 2009 Houston Texans now you do. They're not nearly good enough to beat a good team. They should beat bad ones and be competitive against average teams. That's what they are, an average team.

Thanks, Charley Casserly, for putting the team in a ten year hole. And no thanks to you, Bob McNair, for allowing that to happen.

Andre Johnson is going to be on the downside of his career before this team has any real chance of doing anything in the playoffs, if indeed that ever happens during his career. (Or my lifetime.) That is just sad.

Roy P · #**107** 08-31-2009, 10:06 PM

DeMeco was showing what he can do when healthy. He played a Hell of a game.
Connor Barwin is going to be out Justin Tuck and I like the way Bush plays him.
The 75-yard run that Peterson started the game with was all Adibi's fault since he overran the play leaving nothing back side. Wilson, Ferguson, Barber, and whoever else we play at the back end of the Secondary is atrocious.
Very happy to see Duane Brown playing well against Jared Allen. I was hopeful that Caldwell would beat out Briesel at RG, but right now, I'm not sure who is worse.
Can't wait to see Cushing play, hopefully that will help DeMeco.

bckey · #**108** 08-31-2009, 10:09 PM

Too much Favre love from ESPN. It made the game that much harder to watch.

Roy P · #**109** 08-31-2009, 10:13 PM

Who is #38?

Nconroe · #**110** 08-31-2009, 10:19 PM

Deltha O'Neal is 38. He made a nice tackle toward the end.
If the D can learn to stay home and not give up the big plays, would help a bunch. hopefully they can coach that up the next week or two.

TheMatrix31 · #**111** 08-31-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

Well, if you wanted to know about your 2009 Houston Texans now you do. They're not nearly good enough to beat a good team. They should beat bad ones and be competitive against average teams. That's what they are, an average team.

Thanks, Charley Casserly, for putting the team in a ten year hole. And no thanks to you, Bob McNair, for allowing that to happen.

Andre Johnson is going to be on the downside of his career before this team has any real chance of doing anything in the playoffs, if indeed that ever happens during his career. (Or my lifetime.) That is just sad.

It's preseason, dude. The Lions went 4-0 last year.

Arky · #**112** 08-31-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Who is #38?

At one time it was AJ Davis but he's showing up as #39 now. Jeremiah Johnson is listed as #38 but he's on IR.... perhaps AJ Davis took back #38....

Edit: roster shows O'Neal as #47....
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Scanning the stats, three things stand out to me (besides DeMeco's awesome performance):

1. Two stupid picks by the QB's. One by Schaub, one by Orlovsky. The QB's gotta stop turning the ball over....

2. No turnovers from the Vikings.

3. Lousy rushing stats - 23 rushes for 61 yards - nowhere to go for the backs...

Roy P · #**113** 08-31-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

Deltha O'Neal is 38. He made a nice tackle toward the end.

I liked some of the plays O'neal made. Hope to see more of him next week. Okam and Cody looked pretty good, glad we got something for Travis Johnson.

Arky · #**114** 08-31-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

It's preseason, dude. The Lions went 4-0 last year.

Ya, I tend to agree... Wait till the games count or like, maybe the end of the season to pass judgement....

Roy P · #**115** 08-31-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

3. Lousy rushing stats - 23 rushes for 61 yards - nowhere to go for the backs...

Nobody runs against the Vikings. Can't run up the middle with the Williams' and that allows the LBs to cover the flanks. Not to mention Antoine Winfield is a hell of a run-support CB (did anybody see him get off the block of Winston and make a tackle?)

chuck · #**116** 08-31-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

It's preseason, dude. The Lions went 4-0 last year.

I'm watching the first team on both sides of the ball. If you're not seeing what I'm seeing then you will shortly. Cushing should help the linebackers but I don't see any help for the secondary even when Dunta returns. The safeties are if anything worse than last year.

I can only hope that the play calling will be more creative when other teams sell everything to stop the run. This team is literally going to have to score five TDs and add some FGs to beat a decent team.

Roy - I loved Duane Brown's play, too. He looks very solid over there in pass protection.

Arky · #**117** 08-31-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Nobody runs against the Vikings.

Well, yeah - makes for lousy rushing stats doesn't it?

barrett · #**118** 09-01-2009, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck

Well, if you wanted to know about your 2009 Houston Texans now you do. They're not nearly good enough to beat a good team. They should beat bad ones and be competitive against average teams. That's what they are, an average team.

Thanks, Charley Casserly, for putting the team in a ten year hole. And no thanks to you, Bob McNair, for allowing that to happen.

Andre Johnson is going to be on the downside of his career before this team has any real chance of doing anything in the playoffs, if indeed that ever happens during his career. (Or my lifetime.) That is just sad.

It's a cop out to blame Casserly at this point. The current crew has had more than enough time to turn things around. If we fail this year it is squarely on Smith and Kubiak.

Plus I'm not convinced we can't win. We did something tonight I didn't think we were capable of. Be competitive with a bad offensive effort.

barrett · #**119** 09-01-2009, 12:12 AM

some positives.
-We looked good on both lines against a great DL and a great OL.
-it is some of the best play I have seen from Okoye. He was very active.
-Barwin was a fantastic pick and will be more than just a pass rusher.
-We looked good in the red zone and the 2 minute drill. These are keys for us as we try to make the "top 3 offense" mean something.
-Our LBs looked very good in coverage and while blitzing.

some negatives
-We still have the worst safeties in football. I have been saying this for two years. I still don't know how we drafted a 4-3 OLB, a DE, 2 TEs, and an OL in the first 5 rounds when we have the worst secondary in football.
-One of our Safeties threw a TD springing block against his own man for the 2nd straight week. Who is teaching tackling angles to these guys?
-Our LBs are still too small to fill against the run.
-Schaub was very shaky early. He appears to let a bad play or two get in his head and become bad quarters.
-Our play calling allowed Andre Johnson to disappear. This should never happen. We should never allow drives to go by without plays designed to get him the ball.

TheMatrix31 · #**120** 09-01-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck

I'm watching the first team on both sides of the ball. If you're not seeing what I'm seeing then you will shortly. Cushing should help the linebackers but I don't see any help for the secondary even when Dunta returns. The safeties are if anything worse than last year.

I can only hope that the play calling will be more creative when other teams sell everything to stop the run. This team is literally going to have to score five TDs and add some FGs to beat a decent team.

Roy - I loved Duane Brown's play, too. He looks very solid over there in pass protection.

Oh I know, I'm watching the first team too, and it was ugly. Preseason is just a different beast though.

The secondary is a major concern, and has been for years, so I don't know what to think of it.

Playcalling will be fine. Kubiak is creative as hell.