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Old 12-22-2011, 06:19 PM
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Default Official Texans @ Colts Game Thread, 12/22/2011

Time to shine in front of a "national" audience.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:39 PM
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Obviously the Texans need to keep winning to help their cause for the playoffs, but getting a win here is probably more important to their psyche than anything else. Lose and it could get ugly.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:48 PM
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Everyone in the NFL is watching. I want our guys to put on a show, especially on defense, to let everybody know that Indy isn't giving us the division, we're taking it.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:58 PM
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OD will play. Inactive:

QB Jeff Garcia
WR Andre Johnson
TE Garrett Graham
OG Mike Brisiel
OT Andrew Gardner
CB Sherrick McManis
S Troy Nolan
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:26 PM
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I saw Maehl suited up....

Would like to see Tate to hit 1000 yds. this year... He's at 846 right now...

Let's get 'em, boys....
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:30 PM
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Houston wins the toss and defers. Colts to receive...

Rackers kick goes out of the endzone. Colts ball at their 20.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:31 PM
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:31 PM
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Cracker sack.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:32 PM
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EXACTLY what I was talking about. Let's keep the foot on the gas.
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:33 PM
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So, what was the point spread?

Recalculating....
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:34 PM
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Cracker sack.
Yep, well done Cush.
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:56 PM
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The NFL screwed the Texans and the Colts with their officiating last night. This game can be a joke at times...
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Old 12-23-2011, 06:37 PM
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Our offense went from 27.3 ppg with schaub to 17.2 with Yates. Schaub is an NFL starter and Yates is not. There is no comparison and nothing in the skill set to suggest one in the future.

I am fine with talk of replacing schaub because I think he is good not great. But Yates is not that replacement.
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Old 12-23-2011, 06:49 PM
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Our offense went from 27.3 ppg with schaub to 17.2 with Yates. Schaub is an NFL starter and Yates is not. There is no comparison and nothing in the skill set to suggest one in the future.

I am fine with talk of replacing schaub because I think he is good not great. But Yates is not that replacement.
No doubt about that.

Unfortunately, he is at the helm till the final bell rings. Kubiak made that fairly clear in his presser today. If that's the case, he needs to get rid of his checkdownitis, and throw the damn ball down the field. 20 drop backs yesterday (4 sacks). While his yds/completion was in the 8's, the majority of that was due to YAC. Not going to cut it, as evident by last night.

Gents, we've been living off borrowed time with all the starters we have lost, not to mention our DC. The last two weeks are proof that our time is slipping away. Such a shame, but it is what it is. Maybe Wade coming back wiill help return some respectability to the D at least. I have zero confidence our O can hit 20.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:06 PM
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I think we often make premature decisions when it comes to this team.

I just think that we have not had the chance to see what the kid can truly do.

Let's see RIGHT NOW so we can determine where we go from here. Kubiak needs to open up the play book with Andre Johnson healthy and see if TJ is the way to go.

Right now, I am just saying we have not had much to base anything on.

Throw the ball 30 times next week, if he throws 3 picks, then so be it. If he throws 3 TDs so be it. We just need to see something.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:15 PM
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Our offense went from 27.3 ppg with schaub to 17.2 with Yates. Schaub is an NFL starter and Yates is not. There is no comparison and nothing in the skill set to suggest one in the future.

I am fine with talk of replacing schaub because I think he is good not great. But Yates is not that replacement.
Is that because of Yates' ineptitude or Kubiak's cautious playcalling?

Keep in mind the guy never had any time with the one's or any game experience whatsoever. Not to mention limited training camp. The guy was 3rd on the depth chart.

Let's just see. If he sucks, then I'll be the first one to admit it.
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:24 AM
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Is that because of Yates' ineptitude or Kubiak's cautious playcalling?
Keep in mind the guy never had any time with the one's or any game experience whatsoever. Not to mention limited training camp. The guy was 3rd on the depth chart.

Let's just see. If he sucks, then I'll be the first one to admit it.
That's because of Yates. I still see a deep man, a middle man, and a short man on every bootleg. Yates just isn't pushing it downfield. That is not a playcalling issue. That is a QBing issue.

And I have squarely in my mind the fact that he is not ready for this. That is the whole problem. He does a few things well and is just not ready in many others. Now that those few things he does well are on tape he is looking worse each week. That is the NFL. Teams look to take away what you do best. A Matt Schaub led offense had every defender reacting and not sure what they wanted to take away first. Every safety and LB took false steps a dozen plus times a game because they could not make up their mind what they were most afraid of. He knew where everyone on the field was and got through the progressions and attacked enough different places that the defense was on its heels.

Yates is clearly not that guy and hasn't had a chance to become that guy. What I don't get is how you take Yates' average physical tools, bad accuracy, and totally lacking preparation (not his fault) and add them up to him being better than Schaub at some point in the unnamed future. There is nothing to indicate that.

As for you being the first to admit it if he stinks, I would disagree. He stinks right now (and has for the vast majority of 4 and a half games) and you don't want to admit it.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:09 PM
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TJ's inexperience and ability (or lack thereof) is showing through and definitely a main factor, but the current problems with this offense go way beyond him at this point. The starting WRs on this team right now (not including AJ, of course) would be WR 3 or 4 or non-starters on most teams. You can give all the kudos you want to Walter for his blocking, but his WR skills are average at best and it doesn't help the rookie QB. I'm not even going to bring up JJ because all know what a slug WR he is. But in addition to that, at least in the Colts game, Caldwell and Winston were downright awful and TJ didn't have any time in the pocket when he took and normal 3-5 step drop. Again, it is what it with TJ. He's a rookie for crying out loud so what did people expect? What I'm saying is it's not only him and this team has far deeper issues.

It's hogwash to say the D wasn't a factor in that loss. The Colts drove up and down the field the whole game - they just couldn't put it in the end zone. In addition, the Texans offense had a 5min+ drive before the last Colts drive, so they had plenty of time to catch their breath. They choked it just as much as the offense.
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