Official 2015 NFL Draft - Round 1 Thread

[popanot]

I don't see how anyone could have a problem with CB, and according to some, Johnson was rated higher than the others and is the complete package. Time will tell if he can produce or not, but it certainly addresses an area of need considering our main division rival and with JJoe possibly in his last year. If the kid can play and we stay healthy, this should be a pretty stout D - especially if Clowney can come back.

I had mocked Gordon to the Texans and darn San Diego jumped us before I could find out if I hit it or not. �� Oh well, I'm hoping we can snag Abdullah or Duke Johnson at some point and add some youth and speed at RB.

As for the draft, that was about as boring of a 1rst RD as I can remember. Also, I'm actually glad TENN took Mariota. At least for now, I don't think they have the weapons to help him and it actually sets them back some. I was more concerned that Chip Kelly would get desperate and restock TENN with young talent and a bunch of picks.

[Roy P]

I am okay with Kevin Johnson. Considered him to be better than Trae Waynes. It's going to be interesting to see who else we select. Stephone Anthony going to New Orleans hurt. Hard to believe that we passed on Bud Dupree. Eli Harold and Bernardick McKinney are still on the board starting the 2nd round. There is also Preston Smith and Anthony Chickillo. I hope that we can get help at OLB. Then, there's the question about when Bryce Petty and Brett Hundley are selected.

[nunusguy]

Time to get that WR who can stretch the field, so I'm hoping the Ohio state universitys Devin Smith is available to us in the second and we do select him if he's on our Board.
The only problem I have with the Johnson pick is that he didn't even break 4.5 with his 40 at the Indy combine. So with what appears to be much less that elite speed how is he expected to keep up with Indys Y.A. and their newest speed receiver Phillip Dorsett ?

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Time to get that WR who can stretch the field, so I'm hoping the Ohio state universitys Devin Smith is available to us in the second and we do select him if he's on our Board.
The only problem I have with the Johnson pick is that he didn't even break 4.5 with his 40 at the Indy combine. So with what appears to be much less that elite speed how is he expected to keep up with Indys Y.A. and their newest speed receiver Phillip Dorsett ?

If we didn't need a CB at 1-16, we certainly did after the Colts took Dorsett. It won't matter if he doesn't make that many catches, he's enough of a threat to change your coverage if the Colts line up TY, AJ and Dorsett in the same formation.

The Texans are not equipped to a win a shootout. They have to shut the other team down to win.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

The only problem I have with the Johnson pick is that he didn't even break 4.5 with his 40 at the Indy combine. So with what appears to be much less that elite speed how is he expected to keep up with Indys Y.A. and their newest speed receiver Phillip Dorsett ?

It's a good question, but take a look at his film and his combine. Johnson posted some good quickness numbers, has a good vertical, and more importantly, has very good hips and transition skills. He does have the look of a good cover guy.

On the surface, it seems the bigger concern than a 4.5 forty is that he's a bit skinny. But developmentally, physically, he has been a late bloomer and is very likely to still add some strength as a pro.

I'm encouraged that this is a pick with a very minimal downside. Will he be Deion or Revis? Almost certainly not, and he may even start slow to the NFL like Kareem Jackson, but this looks like a solid future starter.

Andrew Luck isn't going anywhere for a long time, so investing in a CB like this is a good idea, far better than using a 1st on a WR2.

[Keith]

As for the Colts taking Dorsett, this is quite possibly a good thing. They are already strong at the position with Hilton, AJ, and Moncrief, and there is only one football to go around.

Far worse would have been if the Colts decided to bolster their defense or running game. Of course, we're just one round in & they are likely to address those needs today, but at this point, an extra receiver isn't going to make their offense much more explosive than it would have been anyway.

And agreed on Mariota... I fear whether the Titans will be able to protect him, and watching him at Oregon, my immediate thought was that he was going to be hit hard in the NFL. It's a QB league, so I can't fault the Titans for recognizing that and trying to address it, but at the least this seems like the team will have to take a step back before taking a step forward.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Somehow they find Gronkowski and other low-round steals. I notice your analysis ignored him.

I admit my analysis of NE's drafting in RECENT years did not go back past their last four drafts.

5 years ago the Pats did have a very good 2010 draft that included Gronkowski, McCourty, and Hernandez. They were mostly bad in 2006-2009 and I didn't include those drafts in my list of recent years either.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Luck, Bortles, Mariota. ...the Texans now have the 4th best QB in the Division.

Want to make a gentleman's bet on who is more successful this year between Bortles and whatever warm body we put at QB? Bortles was dead last in QB rating out of 33 qualified passers last year. He will improve with time, but QBs generally don't become much more accurate as throwers. Bortles looks like bigger Jake Locker to me.