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11-23-2014, 04:10 PM
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11-23-2014, 04:57 PM
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 My fear is that Mallett's talent is going to be in the middle of last week and this week, forcing a difficult decision. Smith isn't exactly known for making the right call....
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11-23-2014, 06:01 PM
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We finally got "Good Andy" this time but our defenders made it easy, especially in the first half, with very loose coverage. I really didn't see the quick decision and throw plays that worked so well last week. Their defenders got in the grill of our receivers (easy to do because none of them have separation speed - AJ used to but he hasn't had separation at all this year). So when the running game didn't work, defenders could shut down our passing game.
I'd also like to see a few more crossing patterns and rub patterns to get guys open. It seems we throw too much to the sidelines. The Bagels are an inconsistent team. When they are clicking they are tough to beat. When they aren't, like two weeks ago in Cleveland, they are easy to beat. Unfortunately, we didn't create the opportunities to beat them. The offense gave us just six points. But this team is clearly a work in progress. Can't expect miracles right away. I am curious how often a visiting team gets major defensive penalty flags picked up twice in one game. You sure never see that in Foxboro or Pittsburgh.
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#64
11-23-2014, 08:02 PM
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@McClain_on_NFL: Mallett played with an injury to his right pectoral muscle, will undergo an MRI and could be lost for several weeks.
@McClain_on_NFL: Mallett suffered the pectoral injury at Cleveland. He was on injury report with a chest injury as probable and didn't miss a down.
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11-23-2014, 08:26 PM
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Mallett's accuracy has been a known concern. Which is why the gameplan today boggled me. Lots of plays designed to the flats. Mallett is not a Captain Checkdown kind of guy, so why employ an offense like he is?
I understand that outside of Hopkins, this team lacks deep threats, but the team really should have taken more deep shots downfield in early down situations. Blue had nowhere to run this week. Mallett had the bye week to prepare for the Browns, and he looked smart. This time he did not have that advantage, and it showed.
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11-23-2014, 08:41 PM
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Mallett threw more in the bench area during the game than I've ever seen a QB do before -- not just coming out of halftime, but between several series. I thought it might've been a nervous thing, but he must have been trying to loosen up that pec muscle.
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#67
11-23-2014, 09:48 PM
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Late news saying Mallett played hurt with Pectoral muscle and may miss a few games. So, if Mallett rests, do we see Savage?
The game today was winnable, so that's too bad, or good, depending on perspective toward wins vs higher draft pick.
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11-23-2014, 10:23 PM
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11-23-2014, 10:47 PM
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Considering the next two weeks are Tennessee and Jacksonville, I would start Fitz if I wanted a 7-win season and a mediocre draft position. If I wanted a five-win season and a higher draft position, I would start Savage who probably hasn't seen much action, even in practice, while they were grooming Mallett. Yes, I'd like to see Savage under pressure too but I don't think he'll be very good, even against sub-par teams (that are getting better, btw). So, if you can stomach losing the way we did last year, switch to Savage and if you'd prefer to have the best chance you can to win, you'll go back to Fitz.
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#70
11-23-2014, 11:05 PM
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O'Brien is a new coach, and a new coach needs wins, so I expect Fitz to return. Go with Savage, and I suspect the players will think the team is tanking the season. Could turn the locker room on O'Brien.
That said, I am not the new coach, and I am very curious to see Savage in action. Just guessing it won't happen as long as Fitz is healthy.
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11-24-2014, 07:35 AM
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O'Brien has already won more than twice as many games as last years team did, besides this whole season is a mulligan for O'brien. The pressure for him to rack up wins doesn't really begin until next year. I think he'd be foolish to waste this opportunity to see what he's got in Savage. At this point what's the upside in winning with Fitz ? I don't see one ?
Division competitor Tennessee has for several games now been starting its 6th round QB from the 2014 Draft, can't O'Brien start his rookie 4th round Draft pick @ QB ? This is the perfect opportunity, probably the only opportunity he'll get to find out what if anything he's got in Savage (and Mallett when and if healthy) and what he might need to do @ QB in the upcoming off seasons free agency and/or Draft.
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#72
11-24-2014, 11:34 AM
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I think there's no chance we see Savage. This is his "redshirt" year.....
It's gonna be Fitz till Mallett is over his injury. I really wanted to see Mallet the rest of the year to get an evaluation. So far, all we have is the Cleveland game (good!) and the Cincinnati game (bad!). I don't think he's as bad as what we saw yesterday..... probably some (most?) of it due to the injury. ---------------------------------------- Early line has the Texans as a whopping 7 pt favorite over the Titans.
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#73
11-24-2014, 12:05 PM
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I thought Mallett looked good in that drive before the half that ended in the FG. He had good zip on his passes, including the one that Hopkins had to grab. Where I think the injury may have hurt was in the follow through which can make passes sail if your release point is too soon.
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11-24-2014, 12:07 PM
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As long as either Fitzpatrick or Mallett is healthy, I don’t think Savage will play (outside of garbage time) until the Texans have been mathematically eliminated from playoff contention, and probably not unless they have no chance of finishing with at least a .500 record. O'Brien doesn't need to win from a job security standpoint but he is trying to establish a winning culture.
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#76
11-24-2014, 12:32 PM
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So what do you do if you are O'brien re Mallett ? It's now clear yesterdays drop off in performance was related to Malletts injury, so how do the Texans evaluate Malletts long-tern potential and therefor contract value based on his performance in a single game ?
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11-24-2014, 12:50 PM
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11-24-2014, 05:24 PM
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I wouldn't expect Savage until week 16 or 17.
I would let the market set Mallett's price and then decide. I don't think there will be too many suitors. He is not a guy any team is going to invest in as a QB of the future. And he doesn't have the experience to be a veteran backup on a team with a young QB. So that means he's likely limited to the handful of teams with established and rarely injured QBs, and probably less than Fitz got from us. I have got to believe he'd come back here cheap if we offered him a chance to compete for the job (more than he'll get elsewhere). So I guess that means Fitzpatrick and official lame duck status for the Texans 2014 season.
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#79
11-24-2014, 06:56 PM
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@RapSheet: #Texans didn’t find out if Ryan Mallett is their franchise QB. But they told him today they want him back for 2015
@RapSheet: Likely scenario for #Texans QB Ryan Mallett: A short-term contract extension, while the #Texans bring in a young QB to compete with him.
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#80
11-24-2014, 08:01 PM
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O'Brien wants a second opinion. Mallett may not be done this year after all.
Personally, I'd give him an incentive-heavy contract and say he's the starter coming into camp. I'm not sure he does any better on the open market.
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