Official Texans @ Panthers Fake Game Thread, 8/11/2012 - Page 4

Arky · #61 08-11-2012, 09:12 PM

Panther bring the ensuing kickoff back to their 26 but flag on the play. Against Texans 5 yards. Ball is placed at the Panther 31.

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Clausen nearly sacked but throws inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Previous play under review....

QB is ruled down = sack. Ball is placed at the 19. Sack by Bryant.

Clausen loses the football while scrambling and Texans recover (Fangupo)! Texans ball at the 19. (review)

Play stands, Texans ball.

Meggett gets about 6.

Texans kneeling it out.

Final score:

Texans 26, Panthers 13

painekiller · #62 08-11-2012, 10:55 PM

So what are you guys thinking after this win?

chuck · #63 08-11-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

So what are you guys thinking after this win?

I'm thinking that the young offensive linemen need a lot more seasoning. I'm also thinking that the first team defense looked pretty damn good without its two best players.

barrett · #64 08-12-2012, 07:58 AM

I'm thinking our 1st round pick looked awesome. We have some very solid pass rushers and a good team pass rush. Our guys stunt very well. We get good interior pass rush from Watt and Smith.

But in terms of raw ability, Mercilous looked like he has the potential to be a scary individual pass rusher.

HPF Bob · #65 08-12-2012, 11:23 AM

Watched the game on DVR so just now chiming in. Good effort. I didn't notice any major injuries.

The two new OLs concern me but we ran the ball pretty well. I'm impressed by how much better the secondary looks except for Ball.

Still, it's just the first preseason game so don't try to read too much into it.

cadams · #66 08-12-2012, 01:02 PM

Most encouraging thing to me . . .kareem jackson actually looked like he was actually playing the ball.

painekiller · #67 08-12-2012, 08:27 PM

I was happy with the team defense, also thought we moved the ball well for the 1st preseason game.

Want to see some progress moving forward.

Also I am hoping that Cody is not out for to long.

nunusguy · #68 08-13-2012, 07:06 AM

Run blocking looked solid, but I saw lapses from both Butler and Newton in pass blocking and I don't think the Panthers are known for having any stellar edge rushers ? On the other hand former Texans' RT Winston was not known either for his pass-blocking skills ?

WMH · #69 08-13-2012, 07:56 AM

I thought it was impressive that using Martin on the end around actually WORKED.....

Good by slow white boy reverse.

chuck · #70 08-13-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WMH

I thought it was impressive that using Martin on the end around actually WORKED.....

Good by slow white boy reverse.

I know, I saw that and I thought Bob's going to be so excited he's going to spill his Cheetos jumping up from his La-Z-Boy.

Arky · #71 08-13-2012, 10:58 AM

I suppose Trindon Holliday's performance sticks out to me the most. He is such the "wildcard". Goodness, can he be the next Dante Hall? Hall (listed at 5'8") had 9 TD's from punt and kickoff returns over a 3 year span for KC in the early 2000's.

Can he (Holliday) be a playmaker/game changer or would he be a game changer the wrong way (fumbles/bone head decisions)? He's definitely worth looking at more.... I think another solid performance or two and he makes the team.....

WMH · #72 08-13-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

I suppose Trindon Holliday's performance sticks out to me the most. He is such the "wildcard". Goodness, can he be the next Dante Hall? Hall (listed at 5'8") had 9 TD's from punt and kickoff returns over a 3 year span for KC in the early 2000's.

Can he (Holliday) be a playmaker/game changer or would he be a game changer the wrong way (fumbles/bone head decisions)? He's definitely worth looking at more.... I think another solid performance or two and he makes the team.....

At the expense of who/what position? That's the biggest question mark. If they go with 2 QB's + Holiday (assuming he backs this up the next 3 games), then I am probably OK with that. If they seek a shortage elsewhere.....I'm not so sure I would agree with it.

Not that that matters, but it will give me something to bitch about.

Joshua · #73 08-13-2012, 01:36 PM

If you think Holliday is something special as a return man, I would keep him over a 3rd string QB (particularly, if the 3rd string guy is a journeyman and not a draft pick you are grooming). Between punts and kickoffs, he should touch the ball about 8-10 times per game. In my mind, the potential for improved field position he provides greatly outweighs the security of a 3rd string QB. And let's face it, if you're down to your 3rd string QB, your season is basically over anyway. Finally, chances are we can cut Beck and he'll still be available if we needed him at some point.

chuck · #74 08-13-2012, 02:08 PM

I just remember how incredibly tentative he was on kickoff returns two years ago. I would like to see a whole lot more from him and I'm sure we will.

WMH · #75 08-13-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

Also I am hoping that Cody is not out for to long.

From the Chronic:
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...r-back-strain/
"Cody said there is no timetable for his return. He’s not likely to play against San Francisco on Saturday.

Asked if he’s certain he will be ready to play in the season opener against Miami, Cody said, “without a doubt.”"

painekiller · #76 08-13-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH

From the Chronic:
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...r-back-strain/
"Cody said there is no timetable for his return. He’s not likely to play against San Francisco on Saturday.

Asked if he’s certain he will be ready to play in the season opener against Miami, Cody said, “without a doubt.”"

I was just coming here to update this info, Thanks for posting this.

This is good news.

Nconroe · #77 08-13-2012, 04:33 PM

Wish the best and quickest recovery for Shaun Cody,

but Earl Mitchell and Hebron Fangupo did a pretty good job against Carolina, Fangupo had the fumble recovery as well.

Guess they will get even more reps helping our depth as preseason continues.

I thought it was neat/symbolic/making a point/ or just the way it turned out perhaps that the first pass completion of the game went from Schaub to Kevin Walters.

barrett · #78 08-13-2012, 04:51 PM

I have no problem with keeping a dedicated return man. Field position is huge in the NFL and if a return man affects it by as a little as 5 yards per change of possession he is having an impact worth as much as many starting players.

I am not certain if Holliday is that guy, but if they think he is the best return man on the team then I hope he makes it.

His problem is the numbers game at WR. We have two drafted WRs they probably won't cut (martin and posey) and a 3rd guy who took a pay cut and does all the things they like (walter). Then AJ of course, and Jean who looked good the other night. Either way he probably made somebody's team with that touchdown.

Nconroe · #79 08-13-2012, 05:39 PM

He needs to be great on Punt Returns then, which wasn't very exceptional this past scrimage.

On kickoffs, most kickers can go deep or out of end zone now on command.

Active roster is what 47 players, makes it tough if a guy doesn't help in multiple areas.

But, if all returns are consistent, no fumbles, no dumb decisions, yeah, gotta keep him.

Maybe he is the occasional deep threat WR as well at end of a half, or just to loosen up the defense.

barrett · #80 08-13-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

He needs to be great on Punt Returns then, which wasn't very exceptional this past scrimage.

On kickoffs, most kickers can go deep or out of end zone now on command.

Active roster is what 47 players, makes it tough if a guy doesn't help in multiple areas.

But, if all returns are consistent, no fumbles, no dumb decisions, yeah, gotta keep him.

Maybe he is the occasional deep threat WR as well at end of a half, or just to loosen up the defense.

I think he will always lack the size and ball skills to be a deep threat. If he was great on returns and they wanted to get him the ball, I think you are more likely to see him slipped onto the field for a screen pass or a drag. But if you look at Hester he was far more dangerous as a return man before he started to get snaps offensively. If Holliday was truly dangerous as a return man I would leave it at that. Not to mention we don't lack for weapons like Chicago (or Dante Hall's chiefs teams).

As for only doing one thing, our #4/5 WRs last year only did one thing and that was play special teams. They caught almost no passes and rarely saw the field as a WR due to our frequency or 2TE or 2RB sets. I'd much rather have Casey on the field than Holliday/Posey. All Holliday has to be able to do to be the 5th WR is know the routes in case of multiple injuries in the same game.

Of course, that would mean a draft pick like Posey is out and I doubt that.