Official Texans vs. Jaguars Game Thread, 9/28/2009

[Roy P]

While we aren't getting many sacks, we are getting pressure on Garrard. He's doing a good job of getting rid of the ball, but I like that we are at least harrassing him some. It's a fine line between playing good defense and giving up a big play.

[Arky]

JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texan 18.

Pass to Leach for 4.

Pass to OD for about 11. 1st down.

Slaton runs for 11. Ball at the Texan 44.

Slaton for another 11. Ball at the Jags 45.

Slaton for 3. 2nd and 7.

Pass to Leach for 3. 3rd and 4.

Pass to Slaton goes to the Jags 16. 1st down.

C Brown for 3. Ball at the Jags 13.

Pass in the endzone goes inc. 3rd down and 6.

Timeout Texans.

[Arky]

Schaub scrambles about 2 yards short of the 1st down. 4th and 2.

K Brown on for the FG.

27 yd. FG is good.

Texans 24, Jags 24

[Roy P]

D. Barber on the blitz puts a lick on Garrard. I like seeing the DBs used in the blitz packages. Don't mind Cushing hitting guys on the sidelines. He sends a message. Would prefer he would get there before the play was over though.

[Arky]

Jags bobble the Texan kickoff and bring it out to the 13.

MJD for about 11 - could've been bigger but official gets in the way.

1st down pass is inc. but flag on the play. No flag ruled.

Pass to Holt good for about 20. Ball at the Texan 49.

1st down pass is inc.

Reverse goes for the 1st down and flag on Cushing for late hit. Ball at the Texan 21.

Dump to MJD goes for about 8.

Run goes for 1. 3rd and 1. Timeout Jags. 23 secs left in the 3rd quarter.

DeMeco TFL. 4th and 2 coming up.

End of the 3rd quarter.

[Arky]

Jags to go for it on 4th and 1.

MJD gets 3. 1st down. Ball at the Texan 8.

MJD runs it in for the score.

Jags 31, Texans 24

[Arky]

JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texan 18.

Pass to Walter good for about 11 and a 1st down.

Schaub sacked -7.

Dump to JJ good for about 5. 3rd and 12.

Offsides Texans -5. 3rd and 17.

3rd down pass is batted down. Texans to punt.

Jags field the punt at their own 26.

Let's go, defense.

[Arky]

MJD for about 4. 2nd and 6.

MJD for 7 and the 1st down.

Cushing TFL on MJD. 2nd and 11.

Illegal contact on Wilson - auto 1st down. Ball at the Texan 46.

Reverse for about 4. Holding on Jags -10, repeat 1st down.

Screen to MJD goes for about 9. 2nd and 11.

Pressure from A Smith causes pass to go inc. 3rd and 11.

Dump pass is about 3 yards short of the 1st down. Jags to punt. Penalty on Jags -5.

JJ fair catches the punt at about the Texan 10. 7:04 left in the game.

[Arky]

Dump to Slaton for 1.

Pass to Walter for 7. 3rd and 3.

Schaub tripped up for the sack. Texans to punt.

Punt rolls to the Jags 40. 5:24 left in the game.

Need a stop, defense...

[Arky]

MJD for no gain.

Jags cough it up! Dunta strips/Diles recovers! Texans ball!

Del Rio challenges but looks like no dice... Should be Texans ball.

[Arky]

Ball at the Jags 49.

Schaub hits KW over the middle for 18.

Slaton runs for about 19. Ball at the Jags 11.

1st down pass is inc.

Pass to OD near the 1 and a 1st down.

1st down! 1st and goal.

Interference on KW - bad call.

1st and goal from the 11.

Pass to DA goes to the 2.

Oh no. Brown fumbles into the endzone - Jags recover - Kubes challenges.

It could go either way. Brown's knee looked down but short of the TD.

[Arky]

Ruling on the field is confirmed. Jags ball at the 20. Texans with 1 timeout left.

MJD for no gain.

MJD for 5. 3rd and 5. 1:09 left in the game.

Horsecollar tackle on Mario ought to do it.

Jags kneel it out.

Final score:

Jags 31, Texans 24

Goodness...

[sinnister]

This one was on the defense. We are in dire need of a playmaking safety.

[Roy P]

This is one of those games we shoulda won. We played well with very little errors. It's just those few plays in which we had errors, we lost points. I'm fine with the performance, but not with the result. Busing has proved to me that he's not the answer. Frank Bush has got to get some better results from his players. Still trying to figure out why we didn't go after Sean Jones in free agency. Zac Diles played o.k. but still am hopeful to get Weatherspoon in the draft if we can't get a Safety in the 1st round.

Man I hate losing to the Jags.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by sinnister

This one was on the defense. We are in dire need of a playmaking safety.

Safety isnt he big issue. Its the DC. We have enough talent on this team to not be giving up 30 plus points to the likes of Jacksonville. Richard Smith's defense was better than this.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by mussop

Safety isnt he big issue. Its the DC. We have enough talent on this team to not be giving up 30 plus points to the likes of Jacksonville. Richard Smith's defense was better than this.

No its the safety. And though I'd love a playmaker, I'd settle for a guy who can tackle. Or a guy who can cover. I don't even need both. Just one or the other would be fine.

But somehow for the last 3 years we have put strong safeties on the field who not only can't cover, but they make up for it by not hitting or tackling.

Watch Barber on the last MJD TD run from inside the 10. Barber actually runs by MJD without realizing he has the ball. He literally dismisses him while MJD goes by him at walking speed.

At least Wilson can cover. He may not be able to tackle anyone, and he takes bad angles and is slow, but he has a single football skill. He can play centerfield and has the instincts to make a play within his limited range.

Please tell me what positive football characteristic Barber/Ferguson/Busing/etc has. None can tackle. None can hit. None can cover. None can run. None have any instincts. Not one actual football skill in the lot. And the same can be said for Fred Bennett. He may be a worse tackler than Philip Buchanon. Or maybe it is just that he is about as willing to hit as Buchanon was.

We have one guy in the entire secondary that will tackle and that is our 180 lb CB.

When 1 out of 10 running plays gets to the second level, that is not a scheme issue. It is not a LB/DL issue. It is normal for the NFL. But when 3/4 plays that hit the 2nd level go for TDs, that is a problem.

We might as well line up in a 4-4 and make teams pass to beat us though because our secondary is worthless vs the run.

[sinnister]

Originally Posted by mussop

Safety isnt he big issue. Its the DC. We have enough talent on this team to not be giving up 30 plus points to the likes of Jacksonville. Richard Smith's defense was better than this.

Safety is a huge issue. We have a single, decent safety in Wilson, and that is it. Our safety play today was terrible. Actually, that's a dis on the word terrible. Houston Texan safety play should be the phrase used to describe the worst of the worst.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

Please tell me what positive football characteristic Barber/Ferguson/Busing/etc has. None can tackle. None can hit. None can cover. None can run. None have any instincts. Not one actual football skill in the lot. And the same can be said for Fred Bennett. He may be a worse tackler than Philip Buchanon. Or maybe it is just that he is about as willing to hit as Buchanon was.

We have one guy in the entire secondary that will tackle and that is our 180 lb CB.

As you surely know you and I are often at football loggerheads, and that's fine with me. I don't want everyone to agree with all of my points and I appreciate being challenged on what I think and see by thoughtful people.

But you and I are on the same page here. The safeties have always been terrible, and Bennett has no discernible upside.

The Houston Texans are an irrelevant NFL franchise and I am completely sick of it and will not support it any longer.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by Arky

Horsecollar tackle on Mario ought to do it.

Why was it a horsecollar on Mario behind the LOS, and it wasn't a horsecollar on in the Titans game when Schaubie was horsecollared? I do not understand this stupid rule. Seems like it works for everyone except the Texans.

[NBT]

I hate losing to any division opponent.