Glover Quin, DB - Round 4, 112th Overall - Page 2

Roy P · #21 04-30-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero

They keep calling him a nickle corner.

What does that mean for Bennett and Molden? Does that mean they're our fourth and fifth corners? Are they really giving a rookie the third spot right out of the draft? Or by "nickel corner" do they simply mean "not a starter."

What that means is that if/when Dunta doesn't come back, Bennett and Reeves are on the outside and Quin is the Nickle if he's on the field. If we hadn't given Reeves a big contract, Molden would probably be a starter. So, it's depth at the Nickle position in my opinion. I would imagine that Molden is the 3rd CB on the field. Hopefully, this means we have seen the last of Petey Faggins.

papabear · #22 04-30-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Hopefully, this means we have seen the last of Petey Faggins.

Didn't Petey sign with the BESF's?

Roy P · #23 04-30-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by papabear

Didn't Petey sign with the BESF's?

I don't know what BESF is, but I just did a search and see he's a Titan?

That makes me so happy on a couple of different levels.

edo783 · #24 04-30-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

They are going to play him as the nickle. If it becomes clear that he can't play there, they may try him at FS. However, I'm a believer that he'll be a perfect fit right where they are going to put him (over the slot).

Yeah, your right, IF would have been a better choice of word(s). I do expect him to play well as the nickel, certainly as well/better than Peety. However, I suspect he will wind up at FS as he likely will be better there and a starter at FS is more valuable than a nickel corner. Just my hunch.

nero THE zero · #25 05-01-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

What that means is that if/when Dunta doesn't come back, Bennett and Reeves are on the outside and Quin is the Nickle if he's on the field. If we hadn't given Reeves a big contract, Molden would probably be a starter. So, it's depth at the Nickle position in my opinion. I would imagine that Molden is the 3rd CB on the field. Hopefully, this means we have seen the last of Petey Faggins.

That's working on the assumption that Dunta doesn't come back, which I don't think is a safe one for '09 at least.

Assuming Dunta does come back, you'd think he'd be playing the slot since that seems to be his strength.

Maybe by "nickel corner" they are saying they envision Quin playing to similiar strengths as Dunta.

nero THE zero · #26 05-01-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by edo783

Yeah, your right, IF would have been a better choice of word(s). I do expect him to play well as the nickel, certainly as well/better than Peety. However, I suspect he will wind up at FS as he likely will be better there and a starter at FS is more valuable than a nickel corner. Just my hunch.

Sounds a lot like Malcom Jenkins. FS/CB hybrid.

If that's the case, then we got the "poor man's version" of my two favorites in the first round. We got Glover who's a FS/CB tweener similiar to Malcom Jenkins and we got Anthony Hill who's an excellent blocking TE with pass catching ability in the flats, similiar to Brandon Pettigrew. Very impressive if this is the case.

NBT · #27 05-01-2009, 03:38 PM

Now knowing more about Mr. Glover Quinn, a pretty good analogy would be a Malcolm Jenkins type of CB, but in the 4th round instead of the first. Makes sense.

Roy P · #28 05-01-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero

That's working on the assumption that Dunta doesn't come back, which I don't think is a safe one for '09 at least.

Really? How unsafe is it? We drafted 2 CBs last week. We signed FA Jaques Reeves last year and drafted Antwaun Molden. Before that we drafted Fred Bennett. Dunta has made it clear that he and Rick Smith are not on the same page in terms of a contract. I think it's a pretty safe assumption.

nero THE zero · #29 05-02-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Really? How unsafe is it? We drafted 2 CBs last week. We signed FA Jaques Reeves last year and drafted Antwaun Molden. Before that we drafted Fred Bennett. Dunta has made it clear that he and Rick Smith are not on the same page in terms of a contract. I think it's a pretty safe assumption.

I'd say it's better than 50/50 that Dunta plays for us in '09. I'd even say it's better than 75/25.

I see your point, but I don't think Brice McCain's stopping the Texans from bringing back Dunta for one more season.

Roy P · #30 05-02-2009, 08:13 PM

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I see your point, but I don't think Brice McCain's stopping the Texans from bringing back Dunta for one more season.

I don't either. I think Dunta Robinson is stopping the Texans from bringing him back.

Perhaps he will hold out until the preseason is over and finally "grace us with his presence" for the regular season. Even stubborn folks hate to leave $$$ on the table and I'm sure he'll start missing those game checks. Hopefully, he has something left after his injury and wants to prove to the 31 other teams that he's worthy of the money he's seeking. Hopefully, he'll also convince them that he worthy of a 2nd round pick for us after we Franchise Tag him again!

nero THE zero · #31 05-02-2009, 08:50 PM

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I don't either. I think Dunta Robinson is stopping the Texans from bringing him back.

Perhaps he will hold out until the preseason is over and finally "grace us with his presence" for the regular season. Even stubborn folks hate to leave $$$ on the table and I'm sure he'll start missing those game checks. Hopefully, he has something left after his injury and wants to prove to the 31 other teams that he's worthy of the money he's seeking. Hopefully, he'll also convince them that he worthy of a 2nd round pick for us after we Franchise Tag him again!

Hopefully.

NBT · #32 05-13-2009, 11:34 AM

If I were Rick Smith, I would be looking for a new home for Mr. Robinson, like right now. If he is not happy being here, and doesn't want to be franchised again, why not accomodate him? As RP mentioned, a second would be a pretty good price.

nero THE zero · #33 05-13-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Really? How unsafe is it? We drafted 2 CBs last week. We signed FA Jaques Reeves last year and drafted Antwaun Molden. Before that we drafted Fred Bennett. Dunta has made it clear that he and Rick Smith are not on the same page in terms of a contract. I think it's a pretty safe assumption.

Really, for the fun of it, assume Dunta is gone. You still have Bennett, Reeves, and Molden who *should* be ahead of Quin unless (1) they're not happy/impressed with Bennett, (2) they're not happy/impressed with Molden, (3) Molden's injury is more serious than we know of.

I just don't understand what they mean by "nickel corner" given the fact that he has (or should have) *at least* 3 guys in front of him.

Roy P · #34 05-13-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nero THE zero

I just don't understand what they mean by "nickel corner" given the fact that he has (or should have) *at least* 3 guys in front of him.

It is similar to a WR who is not the #1 or #2 guy but isn't necessarily a great "slot" WR. Andre Davis probably has more talent than David Anderson, but may not get as many opportunities to come on the field unless KW or AJ are injured because he's the #1 backup to play on the outside.

Molden is probably better suited to play on the edge at CB and is the guy to come in when Reeves or Bennett gets hurt. Quin has the skillset that makes him a better Nickle because of the types of players and routes he would face in the middle of the field.

It basically comes down to philosophy of wanting the "best" players on the field vs. the players in their "best" positions that maximizes their strengths.

Roy P · #35 05-23-2009, 11:42 AM

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/St...?story_id=5296

“Well, he’s made some plays out here the first couple of days. He’s gotten his hands on the ball a couple of times. We’re playing him at nickel, also; (defensive backs coach) David (Gibbs) tells me he’s very sharp in the meeting room. He can return some, too. So there’s plenty of reps to go around, especially with Dunta (Robinson) not being here. It’s moved all those guys up as far as reps go, so he’s taking advantage of it.”

(on what he’s seen out of CB Glover Quin) “You know what, he’s made two big plays. I’ve seen him catch the ball. I like the way he moves around and whatnot. It’s still early, but he’s made a few big plays out there in our passing game.”

(on if Quin could play safety) “There’s a possibility. We have plans for him on the edge right now. He’s going to do some stuff in the slot and nickel, but there’s always a possibility at safety. He’s built that way, anyway.”

(on what physically sticks out about Quin) “Just his physical stature. He’s a big, thick, good-looking kid. He moves around well. From the tape, we know he’s not afraid to hit. So we’re encouraged by him.”

nero THE zero · #36 05-24-2009, 01:30 PM

Sounds like he is fitting into the Jenkins-esque mold. Back-up nickel/back-up FS.

It either Dunta or Wilson get hurt, I think he'll be their back-up (Dunta in the slot at least.)

NBT · #37 05-24-2009, 03:29 PM

Dunta has to figure out whether he is going to be a player or a smart ass guard house lawyer, greedy at that!

NBT · #38 06-06-2009, 07:43 PM

For someone I never heard of before the draft, I'm becoming rather fond of Mr. Quinn!
As for Mr. Robinson, if I were the Texans, I believe I would start threatening to pull our offer off the table, give his agent permission to shop him around the league, and see just what his value really is.