My Guys

[Roy P]

Okay, the All-Star games are in the books. This is my list of players that I would draft for the Texans. Since this is the first list, I'm sure that it will have additions/subtractions and updates to follow. However, this is my initial gut feeling going into the Combine and Pro Days.

1 WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 6'3" 214 4.54
2 OLB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 2" 246 4.62
3 WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 6' 1" 200 4.38
4 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1" 325 5.15
5 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 4" 254 4.65
6 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
7 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 4" 260 4.73
8 CB D. J. Moore Vanderbilt 5' 10" 184 4.45
9 LB James Laurinaitis Ohio St. 6' 2" 240 4.59
10 OT Michael Oher Ole Miss 6' 5" 320 5.22
11 OT Eugene Monroe Virginia 6' 5" 315 5.23
12 CB Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5' 9" 190 4.45
13 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 4" 248 4.67
14 CB Malcom Jenkins Ohio St. 6' 0" 200 4.45
15 OLB Brian Cushing USC 6' 4" 255 4.75
16 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314 5.10
17 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 207 4.54
18 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3" 273 4.76
19 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 11" 235 4.58
20 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.49
21 RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia 5' 11" 208 4.48
22 DE Michael Johnson Ga Tech 6' 7" 258 4.67
23 FS William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.49
24 WR Percy Harvin Florida 5' 11" 195 4.36
25 TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma St. 6' 6" 260 4.82
26 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204 4.42
27 OG Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 6' 8" 338 5.30
28 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 5" 265 4.68
29 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295 4.93
30 OC Max Unger Oregon 6' 5" 305 5.20
31 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 3" 298 4.99
32 WR Hakeem Nicks North Carolina 6' 1" 210 4.5733 WR Derrick Williams Penn St 6' 0" 196 4.40
34 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 304 5.16
35 OLB Clint Sintim Virginia 6' 3" 254 4.70
36 DE/OLB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 242 4.68
37 OLB Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 6' 2" 235 4.64
38 OLB Marcus Freeman Ohio St. 6' 1" 236 4.58
39 OLB Zach Follett California 6' 2" 231 4.68
40 MLB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.74
41 FS Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 195 4.49
42 QB Josh Freeman Kansas State 6' 6" 245 4.86
43 RB James Davis Clemson 5' 11" 207 4.48
44 OLB Darry Beckwith LSU 6' 1" 233 4.59
45 OLB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 4.60
46 OL Alex Boone Ohio St. 6' 8" 330 5.27
47 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 187 4.48
48 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307 5.12
49 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 297 5.14
50 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 234 4.50
51 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 238 4.65
52 DE Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin 6' 5" 260 4.7453 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.82
54 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 296 5.06
55 TE Bear Pascoe Fresno St 6' 5" 257 4.86
56 RB Arian Foster Tennessee 6' 1" 232 4.56
57 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 210 4.54
58 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314 5.18
59 OLB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 241 4.64
60 FS C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190 4.49
61 OG Andy Kemp Wisconsin 6' 5" 315 5.19
62 SS Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210 4.52
63 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223 4.79
64 OLB Jason Williams W. Illinois 6' 1" 236 4.59
65 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306 4.99
66 FS David Bruton Notre Dame 6' 2" 210 4.55
67 DE Derek Walker Illinois 6' 3" 270 4.79
68 OG Greg Isdaner W. Virginia 6' 4" 322 5.19
69 OLB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 243 4.68
70 RB Gartrell Johnson Colorado St. 5' 11" 222 4.67
71 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 3" 262 4.76
72 LB Kaluka Maiava USC 6' 0" 232 4.69
73 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 10" 219 4.58
74 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11" 203 4.54
75 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 5" 240 4.69
76 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0" 310 5.08
77 RB P.J. Hill Wisconsin 5' 11" 236 4.59
78 OL Robert Brewster Ball State 6' 4" 312 5.10
79 FS Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199 4.50
80 LB Joseph Frantz Florida Atlantic 6' 2" 235 4.73
81 FB Quinn Johnson LSU 6' 1" 251 4.67

The 1st 5 picks is who I'd take at #15. 6 - 14 are 1st round picks that I'd like to trade down and still select.
Picks 15 - 32 are probaby where we are in the 2nd round.
Picks 43 - 52 are probably 4th round picks.

Right now, anybody below 52 is a crap shoot as to which round they will be selected in. Invariably, when I do a draft board, guy that I feel are worthy of 5th round picks are available in the 6th and 7th or even UDFAs.

I will concede that I probably have guys rated lower than most boards have them right now. I suppose, I have them listed where they are because I hope they will slip.

[idymoe]

I appreciate all the effort you put into this.
Just for grins, I would take:

1-Raji
2-Paul Kruger - I don't think Cushing will be there
3-Rashad Johnson - I really hope someone else falls to round 3
4-Darry Beckwith
5-Bear Pascoe
6-Gartrell Johnson
7-Kory Sheets

I think Gartrell Johnson would be a good complement to S.S., and if S.S went down, Sheets could probably fill in adequately.

By the way, Roy, when do you think Delmas and Tyronne Green will go?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by idymoe

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3-Rashad Johnson - I really hope someone else falls to round 3
4-Darry Beckwith



By the way, Roy, when do you think Delmas and Tyronne Green will go?

Who do you want to fall to the 3rd round? I'd guess that Delmas will be selected late 2nd to early 3rd and Green is 3-4 range.

[idymoe]

Ha, how wishful is ridiculous? Delmas? Chung, Ayers, Shaughnessy, Brace, Sean Smith. Probably none of the above will be there. I really don't have much to base my preferences on other than measureables and a few times I've actually seen some of these guys play.

[TrickyTexan]

most ridiculous thing i saw over the weekend was Josh Freeman going in the top 20..what a joke..He is a poor man's Tony Banks.

[Roy P]

Well, one of the reasons I like to make My Guys is to use it for mock drafts. Since DraftTek runs simulations, I compared my list to their 7 round mock and this is what I came away with.

1 - DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
2 - RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.49
3 - LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 242 4.68
4 - LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.74
5 - QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.82
6 - TE Bear Pascoe Fresno St 6' 5" 257 4.86
7 - LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 243 4.68

So, no help for the Secondary is my biggest complaint. I could have drafted DT Darryl Richard in the 7th, but since I had Jerry in the 1st, it seemed redundant. Cody Brown is my SAM/DE where Lee Robinson will push last year's 4th round pick at the WILL. McKillop is a MLB who may or may not allow Ryans to play the WILL. I could have drafted FS Marcel McBath in the 7th, but I'm not sure if he moves out one of the Brandons. I was hopeful Rashad Johnson would slide down to my 4th round pick, but Seattle snagged him at #101.

http://www.drafttek.com/round12009.asp

[kRocket]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Okay, the All-Star games are in the books. This is my list of players that I would draft for the Texans....

.... I have them listed where they are because I hope they will slip.

Roy: Did you leave off Big Herman Johnson from LSU on purpose ?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by kRocket

Roy: Did you leave off Big Herman Johnson from LSU on purpose ?

Yes. I can't fathom a guy that size as a ZBS OL for Gibbs.

[jppaul]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yes. I can't fathom a guy that size as a ZBS OL for Gibbs.

That size, and the fact that he moves like he has giant bricks on his feet.

[Roy P]

Another Mock using my list to fit needs....

1. DT BJ Raji
2. DE Paul Kruger
3. RB Rashad Jennings
4. SLB Cody Brown
5. C/G Eric Wood
6. FS CJ Spillman
7. WLB Lee Robinson

[kRocket]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yes. I can't fathom a guy that size as a ZBS OL for Gibbs.

I am wondering whether the ZBS is as effective at sea level in the 4th qtr as it is in Denver. It appeared that we had an enormous problem pushing the ball in from 3-4 yds out. I watched HJ in the one-on-one drills during Senior Bowl week and he had trouble with speed rushers running around him, but nobody ran through him. The right side of the South line where he started as RT I believe. fairly shut down the vaunted B J Raji. That was how I saw it in the first half and maybe the second half judging by the score, I missed that.

He and Eric Winston would be a formidable right side with maybe Alex Mack, Max Unger, Eric Wood or Antoine Caldwell thrown in at center.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yes. I can't fathom a guy that size as a ZBS OL for Gibbs.

It's not the size, but the athleticism that keeps him from being a ZBS guy. If you could find a guy that big and strong who moved well enough to fit Gibbs scehme....I think Gibbs would need to change his underwear.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by papabear

It's not the size, but the athleticism that keeps him from being a ZBS guy. If you could find a guy that big and strong who moved well enough to fit Gibbs scehme....I think Gibbs would need to change his underwear.

I was indirectly saying that his size prevents the athleticism needed.

[Roy P]

Feb 3, 2009
I have to date these boards so that I don't come in and update 3 times on the same day. I'll try to refrain for the next few days. With all of the hubbub about who we should pick at #15, I mentioned that Jeremy Maclin would not be a bad option. As a matter of fact, in a given scenario I mentioned he was the BPA and that sparked off a long conversation. Just to show that I don't think JMac is the very best player in the draft, I thought I'd revisit My Guys. I have also shown my disrespect for Malcolm Jenkins in a Mock draft, so this also reflects where I put him. Lastly, this shows where I have Laurainitis, Cushing, and all the other favorites that I would be more than happy drafting (in the 2nd round).

1 WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech 6'3" 214 4.54
2 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 4" 254 4.65
3 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 2" 246 4.62
4 WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri 6' 1" 200 4.38
5 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1" 325 5.15
6 OT Michael Oher Ole Miss 6' 5" 320 5.22
7 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 4" 260 4.73
8 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
9 CB D. J. Moore Vanderbilt 5' 10" 184 4.45
10 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204 4.42
11 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.49
12 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh 5' 11" 210 4.49
13 CB Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5' 9" 190 4.45
14 RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia 5' 11" 208 4.48
15 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 4" 248 4.67
16 CB Malcom Jenkins Ohio St. 6' 0" 200 4.45
17 OT Eugene Monroe Virginia 6' 5" 315 5.23
18 LB James Laurinaitis Ohio St. 6' 2" 240 4.59
19 LB Brian Cushing USC 6' 4" 255 4.75
20 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 11" 235 4.58
21 WR Percy Harvin Florida 5' 11" 195 4.36
22 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3" 273 4.76
23 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 5" 265 4.68
24 WR Hakeem Nicks North Carolina 6' 1" 210 4.57
25 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 207 4.54
26 TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma St. 6' 6" 260 4.82
27 DE Michael Johnson Ga Tech 6' 7" 258 4.67
28 S William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.49
29 OC Max Unger Oregon 6' 5" 305 5.20
30 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314 5.10
31 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 234 4.50
32 OG Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 6' 8" 338 5.30
33 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295 4.93
34 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 3" 298 4.99
35 LB Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 6' 2" 235 4.64
36 LB Clint Sintim Virginia 6' 3" 254 4.70
37 QB Josh Freeman Kansas State 6' 6" 245 4.86
38 LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 242 4.68
39 WR Derrick Williams Penn St 6' 0" 196 4.40
40 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 304 5.16
41 S Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 195 4.49
42 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.74
43 LB Darry Beckwith LSU 6' 1" 233 4.59
44 LB Marcus Freeman Ohio St. 6' 1" 236 4.58
45 LB Zach Follett California 6' 2" 231 4.68
46 DT Alex Magee Purdue 6' 3" 295 4.94
47 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307 5.12
48 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 4.60
49 RB James Davis Clemson 5' 11" 207 4.48
50 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 238 4.65
51 TE Bear Pascoe Fresno St 6' 5" 257 4.86
52 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 187 4.48
53 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 297 5.14
54 DE Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin 6' 5" 260 4.74
55 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.82
56 S David Bruton Notre Dame 6' 2" 210 4.55
57 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 210 4.54
58 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 296 5.06
59 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 243 4.68
60 LB Jason Williams W. Illinois 6' 1" 236 4.59
61 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314 5.18
62 S C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190 4.49
63 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210 4.52
64 LB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 241 4.64
65 DE Derek Walker Illinois 6' 3" 270 4.79
66 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306 4.99
67 LB Joseph Frantz Florida Atlantic 6' 2" 235 4.73
68 OG Andy Kemp Wisconsin 6' 5" 315 5.19
69 RB Arian Foster Tennessee 6' 1" 232 4.56
70 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223 4.79
71 OG Alex Boone Ohio St. 6' 8" 330 5.27
72 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 3" 262 4.76
73 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon 6' 4" 300 5.09
74 S Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199 4.50
75 OG Greg Isdaner W. Virginia 6' 4" 322 5.19
76 RB Gartrell Johnson Colorado St. 5' 11" 222 4.67
77 FB Quinn Johnson LSU 6' 1" 251 4.67
78 OG Robert Brewster Ball State 6' 4" 312 5.10
79 RB P.J. Hill Wisconsin 5' 11" 236 4.59
80 LB Kaluka Maiava USC 6' 0" 232 4.69
81 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 10" 219 4.58
82 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 5" 240 4.69
83 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11" 203 4.54
84 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0" 310 5.08

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Yes. I can't fathom a guy that size as a ZBS OL for Gibbs.

Then why have Loadhalt on youre list?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by mussop

Then why have Loadhalt on youre list?

He's 50lbs lighter than HJ, so I hope he's a little more athletic. Also, I'm considering using him at RG instead of RT. It's probably a moot point anyway, because where I have him listed is most likely much lower than when he'll be off the board.

[jppaul]

From what I saw he had real problems out in space and with speed rushers. More of a lock on and maul type that the Ravens or the Steelers would use.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

He's 50lbs lighter than HJ, so I hope he's a little more athletic. Also, I'm considering using him at RG instead of RT. It's probably a moot point anyway, because where I have him listed is most likely much lower than when he'll be off the board.

Again, let me say that the only reason I'd want Loadholt is to play RG. In a ZBS I wouldn't be asking him to pull and lead the way on sweeps. He looked pretty good at getting to the second level and would help on short yardage and goal line situations when an OL needs to move the DL back off the line of scrimmage.

Now, if somebody wants to draft him early on and put him at OT, then I'll simply move on to the next player on my draft list.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by kRocket

Roy: Did you leave off Big Herman Johnson from LSU on purpose ?

I read that Johnson is the biggest baby ever born in the state of Louisiana. 15 lbs 14 oz. Unbelievable.