Official Texans @ Panthers Game Thread, 09/20/2015

[Keith]

Originally Posted by popanot

That sound you hear is our season flushing down the drain. It's starting to look like this team will have its choice of QB's next draft.

Speaking of which, today was a good day for 2014 QBs... Carr, Bridgewater, Bortles, and Manziel all won.

Again I wonder... does O'Brien regret passing on Bortles? (or fill-in-the-name 2014 QB)

[chuck]

Mallett is who he is. He's not very good, mainly because he's not very smart. I'm more concerned with the defense. Mercilus is a ghost. If the offense is double teaming Watt AND Clowney I would like to think that a pass rusher hand picked by Wade might show up and do something, anything. Nope.

JJo had a game as bad as KJax has ever had. The new guy looked pretty good.

I noticed the LBs mostly when the were missing tackles.

I just cant understand how a defense stocked with first round picks can be so uninspiring.

[barrett]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi1LMIUOOAI

[barrett]

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[Keith]

Originally Posted by barrett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi1LMIUOOAI

Here ya go:

[barrett]

Thanks Keith. I failed completely at embedding that clip.

[Arky]

Early line vs. Tampa Bay = Texans by 6.5 to 7

[WMH]

FWIW -

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 7h7 hours ago
Finished watching the Texans offense.

8 drops from Houston's WRs / TEs / RBs. In professional football. That's silly.

[chuck]

I don't have the heart to go back and watch that garbage but I wonder how many of the drops were because Mallett threw a seven yard pass 600 miles per hour and how many of them were dropped because the receiver just dropped it. I remember a lot more of the latter than the former but I might be mistaken.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by chuck

I don't have the heart to go back and watch that garbage but I wonder how many of the drops were because Mallett threw a seven yard pass 600 miles per hour and how many of them were dropped because the receiver just dropped it. I remember a lot more of the latter than the former but I might be mistaken.

I agree with chuck, someone needs to turn Mallett down, his motor was throwing fastballs on every pass before halftime.

[popanot]

I'll be willing to bet the fault lies 50/50. While I generally take the opinion that if the ball hits the receiver in the hands he should catch it, Mallett had ZERO touch and was throwing fastballs regardless of distance, and a few of the dropped passes were off target and very difficult catches to make. The main culprit I saw missing catchable passes was Washington. He dropped a couple that were right to him. This season is obviously going nowhere so it's time to get Strong on the field.

[Arky]

Nah, I think the bigger sin is dropping the ball. A guy like Polk may have an argument but the WR's and TE's have no excuse... Catch the fk'n ball!

[Arky]

29 observations from Texans at Panthers

John Harris
Texans Analyst

It was a rough day in Carolina, actually an exhausting day in Charlotte, as the Texans went down to defeat at the hands of a physical Carolina Panthers squad 24-17. The Texans, shorthanded throughout the game, moved the ball inside the Panthers 20 yard line at the end, but alas, it wasn’t meant to be on this day. Here are my observations from this one.

1. The heat was a significant factor on both sides yesterday. Sure, both teams practice in that Southern-style microwave, but playing in it at 100% full game speed and practicing in it are two entirely different things. Both sides really felt the effects of it as the game wore on.

2. I’ll sure be glad to see a more conventional offense on Sunday and I’m not the only one. The read option/QB run packages haven’t been the nail in the Texans defensive coffin, but it hasn’t helped them either the past two weeks.

3. Not sure what happened on the first offensive play from scrimmage but two weeks in a row there’s been a communication issue of some sort that just can’t happen.

4. The drops. Ugh. I counted four or five of them in the first half. That’s got to change.

5. I’ll give props where they’re deserved and you’d be hard pressed to tell me that Carolina CB Josh Norman isn’t or shouldn’t be a Pro Bowler at the end of this season. For some reason, my eyes went to him on the first third down of the game and it was clear he knew the tunnel screen was coming. He signaled his safety to get behind him just in case and to let him know that he was taking the shot. Real good player who followed DeAndre Hopkins for much of the day.

6. Oh man, Kareem Jackson was oh so close on the Panthers second drive of the game of a pick six. J.J. Watt tipped a Cam Newton pass that was intended for TE Greg Olsen and Kareem came within inches of catching it and taking a short jog to the house for six. That could’ve been a game changer right out of the chute.

7. The Texans had penalties on the first three or four punt/kickoff returns in the game, but finally provided some value with returns later in the game that helped the field position battle. Hopefully, that remains more of a constant going forward.

8. QB Ryan Mallett didn’t have a day that’ll be remembered in Texans lore, but he showed some guts and heart in this one. He took a pounding and made some key throws throughout the day. Some of his best throws, though, were unfortunately dropped. The throw he made in the first quarter when he got some heat, rolled right and threw on the run was one of his best throws of the day but it wasn’t caught.

9. That said, I don’t know that any QB in this league that throws the out route with as much sauce as Mallett. Wow.

10. Short yardage situations have been a bugaboo for the Texans since the first and goal to go against the 49ers in the pre-season, but they picked up one third and one with Jay Prosch’s first ever carry in the first half and then a Chris Polk fourth and one late in the game. If anything else, that was a good sign.

11. We talked about this on the broadcast but on 2nd and six on the Texans field goal drive in the first half, the Texans missed a golden opportunity. The Texans ran zone boot out of the gun with Nate Washington the lone receiver to the right side. Carolina’s Wes Horton stayed home and forced Mallett to have to bubble but Washington beat the DB by yards. Yards, plural. The problem was that he bent the route to the sideline, instead of heading for the back corner of the end zone. In doing so, he made it a really tough throw for Mallett to make, on the run with Horton in his face. With no safety help behind Washington, Mallett could have lobbed one to the corner of the end zone much easier than the throw he eventually had to make.

12. On the Texans third drive, the Panthers gave one to the Texans with a 15-yard penalty on Thomas Davis Sr. to keep a dead drive alive. The very next play Mallett eyed DeAndre Hopkins deep downfield and launched. Hop was held, pushed and shoved well beyond five yards of the line of scrimmage. No call. The Texans got one, legitimately, then lost a huge opportunity on the next one, questionably.

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[WMH]

Originally Posted by Arky

Nah, I think the bigger sin is dropping the ball. A guy like Polk may have an argument but the WR's and TE's have no excuse... Catch the fk'n ball!

Yep. Kinda how I feel about it. It's not like they didn't know how the guy throws. They've had enough reps with him. A fastball to a RB is more understanding, but these guys are elite athletes.

Catch the fk'n ball!

[barrett]

Originally Posted by WMH

Yep. Kinda how I feel about it. It's not like they didn't know how the guy throws. They've had enough reps with him. A fastball to a RB is more understanding, but these guys are elite athletes.

Catch the fk'n ball!

I don't think I would describe our WRs 2-5 with those words. I think we are getting exactly what we paid for from the WR position right now.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by barrett

I don't think I would describe our WRs 2-5 with those words. I think we are getting exactly what we paid for from the WR position right now.

Just my opinion, and while I do not believe they are the cream of the WR crop, anyone that has the ability to make an NFL roster is an elite athlete.

[HPF Bob]

So, what was the story on Strong? Why was I watching Chandler Worthy on Sunday (not returning kicks, btw) when what we needed was a large receiver who could catch bullets? Is he already in O'Brien's doghouse?

[HPF Bob]

All I know is whenever I watch Hoyer, I'm wishing for Mallett and whenever I watch Mallett, I'm wishing for Hoyer.