What Should Be Done with Dunta Robinson in the Offseason? [F-Tagged on 2/19!]

[kRocket]

Fat Albert is one of the top two or three DT's in the league and DRob was not even in the top 5 CB's before he was hurt. We don't really know if he can get back to where he was much less get better. Are we really going to pay a bunch of cash to keep an unknown commodity? I think Roy P. may have been joking but I am not. The other offense cannot double team two of our defensive people at the same time. Mario is considerably better than Vanden Bosch and the Titan line is considered one of the best in football. Okoye ought to come on strong in his third year or be considered a bust. He was still the fourth youngest DLineman in the NFL at the beginning of Training Camp last year. And again you have the draft to fill in the blanks.

Haynesworth did start 14 games last year where he had 51 tackles, including 41 solo, and 8.5 sacks. Sorry, but I would make the trade-off any day.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by kRocket

Fat Albert is one of the top two or three DT's in the league and DRob was not even in the top 5 CB's before he was hurt. We don't really know if he can get back to where he was much less get better. Are we really going to pay a bunch of cash to keep an unknown commodity? I think Roy P. may have been joking but I am not. The other offense cannot double team two of our defensive people at the same time. Mario is considerably better than Vanden Bosch and the Titan line is considered one of the best in football. Okoye ought to come on strong in his third year or be considered a bust. He was still the fourth youngest DLineman in the NFL at the beginning of Training Camp last year. And again you have the draft to fill in the blanks.

Haynesworth did start 14 games last year where he had 51 tackles, including 41 solo, and 8.5 sacks. Sorry, but I would make the trade-off any day.

I can't argue that Dunta is the better player. However, a few things to keep in mind:

1. Dunta has been pretty good despite entiring his prime with a horrific defensive staff and very little talent surrounding him- followed by the injury.

2. Meanwhile, even when Haynesworth is on the bench, guys like JJones and others I've never heard of dominate the interior line for Tennessee. Clearly, the Tennessee DL coach and coordinator has been excellent for his and the defense'sdevelopment.

3. Leadership! Dunta is a good leader, Albert ain't.

My point is that Dunta next year and the years following may turn out to be a greater asset to the Texans than Albert would, if he were here. Plus, I don't want to have to root for that SOB!

[kRocket]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

I can't argue that Dunta is the better player. However, a few things to keep in mind:

1. Dunta has been pretty good despite entiring his prime with a horrific defensive staff and very little talent surrounding him- followed by the injury.

2. Meanwhile, even when Haynesworth is on the bench, guys like JJones and others I've never heard of dominate the interior line for Tennessee. Clearly, the Tennessee DL coach and coordinator has been excellent for his and the defense'sdevelopment.

3. Leadership! Dunta is a good leader, Albert ain't.

My point is that Dunta next year and the years following may turn out to be a greater asset to the Texans than Albert would, if he were here. Plus, I don't want to have to root for that SOB!

1. Dunta was pretty good and may still be, but he may not be as good as he was and I feel he will want a big payday anyway.

2. If you look at the Stats nobody came close to AH's productivity for the Titans. For that matter AH did better than any 2 of our DT's put together.

3. We haven't had a true leader on the defense since Aaron Glenn (started 1 game for the saints last year) and Jamie Sharper (retired injury) left after 2004. That has been hailed as one of our biggest hurdles all year and back into last.

To be honest I believe your last statement is the real reason you don't want him. You (and many others) just don't like him. Al or Jerry will get him and just get that much better.

[kravix]

I like DRob, but he is not one of the best corners in the league. He has the potential to be very very good,the lack of talent around him, and piss poor schemes his whole career dont help. Great players standout no matter where they are though.

I dont agree that he should make top money. I would pay him middle of the road money though.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by kRocket

1. Dunta was pretty good and may still be, but he may not be as good as he was and I feel he will want a big payday anyway.

2. If you look at the Stats nobody came close to AH's productivity for the Titans. For that matter AH did better than any 2 of our DT's put together.

3. We haven't had a true leader on the defense since Aaron Glenn (started 1 game for the saints last year) and Jamie Sharper (retired injury) left after 2004. That has been hailed as one of our biggest hurdles all year and back into last.

To be honest I believe your last statement is the real reason you don't want him. You (and many others) just don't like him. Al or Jerry will get him and just get that much better.

I think paying AH would be a bad move. I think once he gets that big contract his production will drop

[WMH]

Interesting article on Dunta. Not sure how accurate this is, but if it is true, they they are $3MM to $6MM apart on the guarranteed money.

http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Housto...tags-this-week

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by WMH

Interesting article on Dunta. Not sure how accurate this is, but if it is true, they they are $3MM to $6MM apart on the guarranteed money.

http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Housto...tags-this-week

From the above link -
As far as Dunta, we've covered this before (links below) but if I had to guess what's been going on, and what will happen sometime in the next 11 days this is it:

"Dunta and his agent want something close to Chris Gamble money, which was $23 million guaranteed.
The Texans have an offer on the table between $17 and $20 million guaranteed.
Dunta and his agent will not accept the Texans offer
The Texans will use the non-exclusive franchise tag on Dunta which will guarantee him $9.96 million for one season, if he signs the tender"
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With the statement "but if I had to guess what's been going on", the writer atleast reveals his comments are pure speculation. On the other hand, it seems like a plausible scenario.
And I would think he's worth "Chris Gamble money", if not for the residual uncertainty about his full recovery to form pre-2007 season ending injury.