Official Texans @ Colts Game Thread, 12/20/2015

[HPF Bob]

29 teams didn't offer Johnson a contract, I know that, but I'm sure there were other teams interested in Johnson besides the Colts. He didn't wait very long before signing. The Dolphins and Patriots were looking for WR help just to name two and the Hurricane community would have loved to see him back in the hood. Everyone has choices.

Hey, Favre went to the Vikings and a lot of Packer fans are still bitter about that. It was mentioned frequently when he returned to Lambeau this season.

If one day Watt is in the same situation and chooses the Colts or the Titans, I'm going to feel the same way. If they're traded, that's a different story.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

29 teams didn't offer Johnson a contract, I know that, but I'm sure there were other teams interested in Johnson besides the Colts. He didn't wait very long before signing. The Dolphins and Patriots were looking for WR help just to name two and the Hurricane community would have loved to see him back in the hood. Everyone has choices.

Hey, Favre went to the Vikings and a lot of Packer fans are still bitter about that. It was mentioned frequently when he returned to Lambeau this season.

If one day Watt is in the same situation and chooses the Colts or the Titans, I'm going to feel the same way. If they're traded, that's a different story.

And those Packers fans were idiots and you'd be an idiot to be angry at Watt.

Everything in the NFL favors the owners. Players have an extremely short window to get paid. If our team parts ways with a guy, he can go anywhere he wants to get paid. Especially when he has 1-2 remaining years of earning power and 40-50 remaining years of life. It's not like Andre is going to go get a TV job.

But again, if you look up and find yourself in Bob McNair and Rick Smith's corner, you need to examine your decision making process.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

Everything in the NFL favors the owners. Players have an extremely short window to get paid. If our team parts ways with a guy, he can go anywhere he wants to get paid. Especially when he has 1-2 remaining years of earning power and 40-50 remaining years of life. It's not like Andre is going to go get a TV job.

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That's how it works with capitalism, and its the capital and entrepreneurial skills of past and present NFL owners that has made for the opportunities for these young guys to leverage their freakish athletic traits in a way that nothing else possibly could. And last I checked nothing compulsory about playing pro ball.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

That's how it works with capitalism, and its the capital and entrepreneurial skills of past and present NFL owners that has made for the opportunities for these young guys to leverage their freakish athletic traits in a way that nothing else possibly could. And last I checked nothing compulsory about playing pro ball.

I never threw a pity party for the millionaires. I just said I didn't feel like the millionaires owed anything to the billionaires who fired them.

[Arky]

I'm starting to hear murmurs that the Titans are going to be 4.5 point favorites over the Texans. Man! He won't do it, but if I was OB, I'd put that up on the bulletin board in 128 pt font....

[chuck]

Idiots like Bob and nunu are perennial owner apologists. They spout bullshit like "its the capital and entrepreneurial skills of past and present NFL owners that has made for the opportunities for these young guys to leverage their freakish athletic traits in a way that nothing else possibly could," conveniently forgetting that corporate welfare typically gave these owners a clear path to their wealth not available to normal people, that the NFL enjoys insane anti-trust protection and that most of these repellent pricks had taxpayers build their stadiums for them. And, of course, it's the television contracts that get these players paid like they do.

These assholes are force-fed what they likely think of as conservative ideals. Actually, there is probably very little force feeding happening; they most likely happily take it in their oral orifice and elsewhere. Big government participates in stacking the deck for the billionaire owners with respect to their wealth accumulation, their anti-trust protection and the stadium building. Yet these idiots parade up and down bitching about taxes and government intrusion in their lives and so on but when it's rich white guys against uppity black guys, well, they stand in line to lick the taint. It's sad how typically hypocritical these clowns are. It's almost enough to make you want to leave the country to avoid them.

Oh, happy holidays to all you necks.

[barrett]

I read an interesting article a few weeks ago about the irony in the fact that the USA has completely socialist sports leagues (government support, tax subsidies, use of public land, revenue sharing, salary caps, draft systems that give the best players to the worst teams, etc...).

Meanwhile socialist Europe has completely capitalist sports systems (no salary caps, no drafts, no leveling systems, relegation).

It is foolish to call making money on owning a pro sports team a capitalist venture.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by chuck

Idiots like Bob and nunu are perennial owner apologists. They spout bullshit like "its the capital and entrepreneurial skills of past and present NFL owners that has made for the opportunities for these young guys to leverage their freakish athletic traits in a way that nothing else possibly could," conveniently forgetting that corporate welfare typically gave these owners a clear path to their wealth not available to normal people, that the NFL enjoys insane anti-trust protection and that most of these repellent pricks had taxpayers build their stadiums for them. And, of course, it's the television contracts that get these players paid like they do.

These assholes are force-fed what they likely think of as conservative ideals. Actually, there is probably very little force feeding happening; they most likely happily take it in their oral orifice and elsewhere. Big government participates in stacking the deck for the billionaire owners with respect to their wealth accumulation, their anti-trust protection and the stadium building. Yet these idiots parade up and down bitching about taxes and government intrusion in their lives and so on but when it's rich white guys against uppity black guys, well, they stand in line to lick the taint. It's sad how typically hypocritical these clowns are. It's almost enough to make you want to leave the country to avoid them.

Oh, happy holidays to all you necks.

Now I ask you, are you also concerned that the Chuckster has not yet been seized by the Christmas Spirit ? Well I'm going to remain hopeful because there's still a couple more days for him to find that spirit of peace and goodwill towards his fellow man.

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by chuck

Idiots like Bob and nunu are perennial owner apologists. They spout bullshit like "its the capital and entrepreneurial skills of past and present NFL owners that has made for the opportunities for these young guys to leverage their freakish athletic traits in a way that nothing else possibly could," conveniently forgetting that corporate welfare typically gave these owners a clear path to their wealth not available to normal people, that the NFL enjoys insane anti-trust protection and that most of these repellent pricks had taxpayers build their stadiums for them. And, of course, it's the television contracts that get these players paid like they do.

You're certainly taking this rant way off base. I haven't said these things, nor do I believe them. The professional athlete makes a deal with the devil everytime they step on the field. They get paid extremely well. In return, they could be crippled now or crippled later. In a sense, no different than a soldier of fortune. Who they choose to represent or whether they continue playing at all is entirely up to them except for the limitations of the COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT negotiated between the league and the PLAYERS UNION - a factor you conveniently forget.

Do you not remember I grew up with Bud Adams and now suffer through Jim Crane?? I know about asshole owners and do NOT universally praise them or unconditionally support them. I'm no fan of holding a team hostage with threats to move them until the city coughs up a new stadium. But it happens and, at most, the only say I have in the matter is one vote.

I'm glad you found new soil to live on, Chuck, with a political system more to your liking. Too bad more America-haters didn't leave like you instead of ruining our federal government.

Feliz Navidad and say hi to Fidel and Raul the next time you do the secret handshake with them. From each according to their ability; to each according to their need. Death to the capitalist running dogs!! Viva Marx!