Andre contemplating his future- please stay

[HPF Bob]

If we can get a first round pick in return, go ahead and trade him. If we can get some cap relief out of it, even better. I've loved what AJ has done for us for a decade but he's not going to be around the next time the Texans are contenders so let him go to some place (please, not Baltimore, Oakland or Pittsburgh) where he might have a chance to win a ring.

[Keith]

Johnson arrived at the Texans' facility to learn new coach Bill O'Brien's offense on Monday, ESPN.com's Tania Ganguli reported.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per a source informed of Johnson's whereabouts, that the star wide receiver has been at the Texans' facility several times this offseason.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...gn=Twitter_atl

[WMH]

Imagine that. The daily fines are about to kick in, and AJ is in the building. What a shocker. I will also be completely astonished when he starts collecting his $700K game checks.......

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if McNair tells Rick to throw a guy a bone just so he can save some face.

But it was never about the money. He wanted to "win". Blah blah blah.

Then, I'm guessing around week 6 or 7, he'll fall untouched again and be lost for the season.

Damn, I sound like Chuck.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by WMH

Imagine that. The daily fines are about to kick in, and AJ is in the building. What a shocker. I will also be completely astonished when he starts collecting his $700K game checks.......

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if McNair tells Rick to throw a guy a bone just so he can save some face.

But it was never about the money. He wanted to "win". Blah blah blah.

Then, I'm guessing around week 6 or 7, he'll fall untouched again and be lost for the season.

Damn, I sound like Chuck.

I don't know if there has been a star player who has shown less concern for money. I still remember the year his uncle said he might hold out. The next day the media all asked AJ about it and he laughed and said no chance. He didn't even care that he had destroyed any leverage his uncle had with his comment. I just think he's not real money savvy.

For the last 6 plus years he has had huge leverage as the Texans only real star and never tried to turn that leverage into cash. He signed a ridiculous 7 year deal that cost him money in his key earning years. He employed his bumbling uncle as agent through his prime.

I just seriously don't understand how anyone sees this guy miss a few optional workouts and one mandatory mini camp and concludes he is about the money. And even when it is about the money for a player, I also don't understand how pro sports fans continuously side against "spoiled, overpaid" players and side with owners and teams that are 100Xs richer.

Here is a guy who came to work every day for 11 years with his mouth shut and worked hard (like many on this site do at their job). In year 12 he wanted a change but never once said anything about money or a new deal. And he gets branded as out for the money.

And WMH takes it a step further and even tries to knock him for phantom injuries. This about a guy who hasn't missed a game in over 2 years. A guy who played 16 games last year when many vets would have shut down on a 2-14 season with Keenum at QB. A guy who has played 88% of his team's games in an 11 year career. A guy who has never gone on IR and shut down a season, but has always rehabbed back in season.

Anyone who wants to throw around blind insults at AJ for missing a minicamp is an idiot. He has been plenty committed to our organization winning games. I just wish Bob McNair and company were as committed to winning as AJ is. Since rolling out a team with no QB is the front office equivalent to going down "injured" with no contact.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by barrett

I don't know if there has been a star player who has shown less concern for money. I still remember the year his uncle said he might hold out. The next day the media all asked AJ about it and he laughed and said no chance. He didn't even care that he had destroyed any leverage his uncle had with his comment. I just think he's not real money savvy.

For the last 6 plus years he has had huge leverage as the Texans only real star and never tried to turn that leverage into cash. He signed a ridiculous 7 year deal that cost him money in his key earning years. He employed his bumbling uncle as agent through his prime.

I just seriously don't understand how anyone sees this guy miss a few optional workouts and one mandatory mini camp and concludes he is about the money. And even when it is about the money for a player, I also don't understand how pro sports fans continuously side against "spoiled, overpaid" players and side with owners and teams that are 100Xs richer.

Here is a guy who came to work every day for 11 years with his mouth shut and worked hard (like many on this site do at their job). In year 12 he wanted a change but never once said anything about money or a new deal. And he gets branded as out for the money.

And WMH takes it a step further and even tries to knock him for phantom injuries. This about a guy who hasn't missed a game in over 2 years. A guy who played 16 games last year when many vets would have shut down on a 2-14 season with Keenum at QB. A guy who has played 88% of his team's games in an 11 year career. A guy who has never gone on IR and shut down a season, but has always rehabbed back in season.

Anyone who wants to throw around blind insults at AJ for missing a minicamp is an idiot. He has been plenty committed to our organization winning games. I just wish Bob McNair and company were as committed to winning as AJ is. Since rolling out a team with no QB is the front office equivalent to going down "injured" with no contact.

I don't really care if he misses all of camp. As long as he's ready to entertain me come September, I'm good with that.

And your stats are a bit misleading. I don't have the interest to look it up, but I'd assume his games played % has dwindled the last couple of years. Hope he makes it thru all 16 again this year, it's more entertaining that way. Father Time is betting against him.

[barrett]

In the last 2 seasons he has played 32 games without missing one while catching 221 balls. I don't think the 2009-2011 injuries were exclusively about age. I am guessing he saw something about how his body was reacting as he aged and made some kind of adjustment in his training (redistribution of weight, increased stretching, more deer antler spray, or some other fix), but either way he hasn't been hurt since 2011.

[Nconroe]

Wasn't hard to look up. AJ has played 154 out of 176 games in 11 years.

Which is .875 of games.

Speculating, probably more than average even younger player as almost everyone gets occasional injury. Or for AJ percent would have been lower when he was younger, counter intuitive.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

Anyone who wants to throw around blind insults at AJ for missing a minicamp is an idiot. He has been plenty committed to our organization winning games. I just wish Bob McNair and company were as committed to winning as AJ is. Since rolling out a team with no QB is the front office equivalent to going down "injured" with no contact.

This entire post is eminently commendable, the final paragraph particularly so. If McNair were as committed to winning as AJ who knows what this team would have accomplished.

[Nconroe]

some interesting opinions you guys have.

Anyways, today AJ's agent says he is in discussion with Texans, wonder why?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

some interesting opinions you guys have.

Anyways, today AJ's agent says he is in discussion with Texans, wonder why?

Why do you think they're talking?

Do you think AJ will get more money when this whole thing is done? Do you think he's trying to?