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Old 02-13-2012, 04:58 PM
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Where are you getting the idea the Texans are cap strapped if they resign Mario?

His cap number will go significantly down with any long term deal. Maybe as much as $5-10 million less than the $18 million this year.

And the salary cap explodes next year based on increased TV revenue. Meaning even if we were tight this year we would have money next year before we needed to worry about any 2013 guys.
IIRC - Cap grows by leaps and bounds in '14, not '13.

It is being reported that we have ~$3-$4MM in cap room, that is with Mario at ~$18. Say Mario gets.........$12MM/yr (-$6MM). Arian gets......$6MM/yr (+$5MM). Myers gets......$4MM/yr (+$1MM). The cap "savings" you get from a long term Mario contract is eaten up by Arian and Myers deals, plus we still have to resign Briesel. Dressen might have to walk as well.

I'll be the first to admit, I haven't a clue what I am talking about when it comes to the cap, but in just looking at the raw numbers, it seems to me that the above example will likely hold fairly true. This puts us in the exact same spot next year when they go to re-up Brown, Barwin, and Schaub (might be others as well....Antonio Smith? Wade Smith?). Another year in Wade's system, and Barwin is going to command top dollar as well.

That's just the way I see it. Hope I am wrong, but that sure makes sense to me.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:14 PM
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IIRC - Cap grows by leaps and bounds in '14, not '13.

It is being reported that we have ~$3-$4MM in cap room, that is with Mario at ~$18. Say Mario gets.........$12MM/yr (-$6MM). Arian gets......$6MM/yr (+$5MM). Myers gets......$4MM/yr (+$1MM). The cap "savings" you get from a long term Mario contract is eaten up by Arian and Myers deals, plus we still have to resign Briesel. Dressen might have to walk as well.

I'll be the first to admit, I haven't a clue what I am talking about when it comes to the cap, but in just looking at the raw numbers, it seems to me that the above example will likely hold fairly true. This puts us in the exact same spot next year when they go to re-up Brown, Barwin, and Schaub (might be others as well....Antonio Smith? Wade Smith?). Another year in Wade's system, and Barwin is going to command top dollar as well.

That's just the way I see it. Hope I am wrong, but that sure makes sense to me.
I doubt Mario's cap number would be as high as 12 million. If he signs a 6 year $72 million deal (a huge one), it is not spread equally over 6 years. It is hugely back loaded. This is why he got $18 million in the last year of this past deal. That was a 6 year $54 million dollar deal and a full ONE THIRD of it was in the last year. I would bet a long term deal for Mario puts him under $10 million for cap purposes next year.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:57 AM
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I doubt Mario's cap number would be as high as 12 million. If he signs a 6 year $72 million deal (a huge one), it is not spread equally over 6 years. It is hugely back loaded. This is why he got $18 million in the last year of this past deal. That was a 6 year $54 million dollar deal and a full ONE THIRD of it was in the last year. I would bet a long term deal for Mario puts him under $10 million for cap purposes next year.
I hear ya, but I'm thinking that his numbers are going to be quite a bit bigger than that. IIRC, Peppers got a 6 yr, $80ishMM ($40ish guarranteed) contract two years ago....that was before teams had to start inching towards a salary floor. Charles Johnson (yeah, who?) 6 yrs, $76MM ($32MM gtd.). It is quite possible that if he hits the market, it would/could be the biggest FA deal for a DE ever.....not good for the hometeam
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