2012 mocks

[chuck]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Your not going to like the drop, but they have us not making the playoffs, so here it goes.

17 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
49 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
81 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State 6' 3" 202.
112 Ryan Miller OG Colorado 6' 8" 320
144 George Iloka S Boise State 6' 3" 207
176 Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College 6' 1" 196
208 Adrian Robinson DE Temple 6' 2" 248

I don't hate this draft at all. Other than not making the playoffs of course.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by chuck

I don't hate this draft at all. Other than not making the playoffs of course.

The not making the playoffs is the part I was talking about not being happy about.

[barrett]

I still don't like a WR in round 1 because then you have to get him the ball. Too many mouths disease brought on by Bryant and Jones in Dallas and Atlanta has meant a big step back for Austin and White, and for their offense as a whole since they don't run the ball as much. I'd prefer a Jacoby Jones replacement in rounds 2-4.

I'd also love a tackle on either side that could move Winston inside. Aside from that CB (if our front office is either gone or smart enough to admit a mistake), DT, KR/PR specialist, ILB, OC, WR again for 4/5 and special teams coverage (Andre Davis type).

[painekiller]

Talk about a swing in the rankings, I think this maybe a little high, but we will see.

27 T.J. McDonald* S USC 6' 2" 205
59 Kendall Reyes DT Connecticut 6' 4" 295
90 Marvin McNutt WR Iowa 6' 4" 215
122 Andrew Sweat OLB Ohio State 6' 2" 238
154 Omar Bolden CB Arizona State 5' 10" 195
186 G.J. Kinne QB Tulsa 6' 2" 215
217 Tysyn Hartman CB Kansas State 6' 3" 206

Or we could be crazy and go this way:

27 Rueben Randle* WR LSU 6' 3" 201 BPA for our system, not my choice of position
59 Billy Winn DT Boise State 6' 4" 288
90 Joel Foreman OG Michigan State 6' 4" 304
122 George Iloka S Boise State 6' 3" 207
154 Sammy Brown OLB Houston 6' 3" 240
186 Trevor Olson OT Northern Illinois 6' 6" 306
217 Tysyn Hartman CB Kansas State 6' 3" 206

[barrett]

I like Tyron Carrier to be what Trindon Holliday was supposed to be for us. I'd love him as a last day pick or UDFA. Awesome return skills, and they used him all over the field on offense and he ran great routes in every possible use. I think you could get him as a KR and then see if you can make the speed work elsewhere as a bonus.

[painekiller]

25 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma 5' 11" 178
57 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
88 Joel Foreman OG Michigan State 6' 4" 304
120 Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas 6' 1" 241
152 Zach Collaros QB Cincinnati 6' 0" 209
184 Kyle Wilber DE Wake Forest 6' 5" 235
216 Rodney Stewart RB Colorado 5' 6" 175

My try:

25 Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington 6' 3" 348
57 Ben Jones OC Georgia 6' 3" 300
88 Tony Jerod-Eddie DT Texas A&M 6' 5" 300
120 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
152 Chris Galippo ILB USC 6' 2" 250
184 Tyrone Crawford DE Boise State 6' 4" 275
216 Korey Williams ILB Southern Miss 6' 2" 243

I don't love my mock but there are some interesting names there.

[NBT]

Too early to name names, but I would like to see a Calvin Johnson type WR (I know, I don't want much do I?), CB, LB, and a rookie QB before the end of the 3rd round. I like the way Smith moved around in the Draft this year to get an extra second. Maybe we could do something like that again in the 2012 Draft.

[painekiller]

27 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma 5' 11" 178
59 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
90 Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State 6' 4" 215
122 Danny Trevathan ILB Kentucky 6' 1" 228
154 Cam Johnson DE Virginia 6' 4" 265
186 Tysyn Hartman CB Kansas State 6' 3" 206
217 Lance Dunbar RB North Texas 5' 9" 202

I'm not feeling this one, but like the draft position. I'm waiting until bowl time to get a real feel for this draft. Not sure yet how solid the draft is going to be.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

27 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma 5' 11" 178
59 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
90 Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State 6' 4" 215
122 Danny Trevathan ILB Kentucky 6' 1" 228
154 Cam Johnson DE Virginia 6' 4" 265
186 Tysyn Hartman CB Kansas State 6' 3" 206
217 Lance Dunbar RB North Texas 5' 9" 202

I'm not feeling this one, but like the draft position. I'm waiting until bowl time to get a real feel for this draft. Not sure yet how solid the draft is going to be.

I think I'd like more size out of a 1st round WR. Who are the big WRs for us to watch who would be late 1st-3rd round talent?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

I think I'd like more size out of a 1st round WR. Who are the big WRs for us to watch who would be late 1st-3rd round talent?

This is the WRs taken in the first 3 rounds of the above mock, in the order they were taken. This order will change between now and the draft due to forty times and combine workouts. There are a couple guys I really want to see more of and a good number of them are currently in the 2nd round range.


Justin Blackmon* WR Oklahoma State 6' 1" 205
Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma 5' 11" 178
Rueben Randle* WR LSU 6' 3" 201
Dwight Jones WR UNC 6' 4" 245
Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
Juron Criner WR Arizona 6' 4" 210
A.J. Jenkins WR Illinois 6' 1" 185
Kendall Wright WR Baylor 5' 11" 185
Marvin McNutt WR Iowa 6' 4" 215
Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
Jarius Wright WR Arkansas 5' 10" 180

[painekiller]

Check out where the pick is, do you think the Kubiak haters will shut up?

31 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma 5' 11" 178
63 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
94 William Vlachos OC Alabama 6' 1" 292
126 Duke Ihenacho S San Jose State 6' 1" 210
158 G.J. Kinne QB Tulsa 6' 2" 215
190 Andrew Sweat OLB Ohio State 6' 2" 238
221 Jacquies Smith DE Missouri 6' 4" 255

I don't like the 1st pick, I don't see the team taking a short WR with a bad knee in the 1st round. Other than that I could live with draft.


31 Rueben Randle* WR LSU 6' 3" 201
*39 Nate Potter OT Boise State 6' 6" 293
63 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
*71 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 6' 4" 216
94 Tony Jerod-Eddie DT Texas A&M 6' 5" 300
126 Louis Nzegwu DE Wisconsin 6' 4" 250
159 James Wilson OG Florida 6' 3" 318
190 Donald Stephenson OT Oklahoma 6' 6" 309
221 Adrian Hamilton DE Prairie View A&M 6' 3" 255

In my mock we get a 2nd and 3rd round pick from Washington for Matt Leinart.

[chuck]

If Kubiak can navigate this disaster and make a deep playoff run I might back off a bit. Some goon's idea of the team's future draft status does not impress me at this point.

Broyles, though, does impress me. He's not the 6'3" you want but I can see him being a Steve Smith sort of NFL player.

I'd still rather draft a corner there or maybe a safety.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by chuck

If Kubiak can navigate this disaster and make a deep playoff run I might back off a bit. Some goon's idea of the team's future draft status does not impress me at this point.

Broyles, though, does impress me. He's not the 6'3" you want but I can see him being a Steve Smith sort of NFL player.

I'd still rather draft a corner there or maybe a safety.

I'm not opposed to CB or S at the 31st pick:
Jayron Hosley* CB Virginia Tech 5' 11" 170
Chase Minnifield CB Virginia 6' 0" 185
Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama 5' 11" 186
Cliff Harris* CB Oregon 5' 11" 160
Brandon Boykin CB Georgia 5' 10" 185

Those are the next 5 DBs in this mock, not another safety taken until the 3rd (not accounting for the 3 safeties taken before our pick in the 1st). Also want to point out that Brandon Harris has yet to see the field in our crowded defensive backfield. Doesn't mean we cannot upgrade the #2 CB that is on the roster now. But I do want to point out that Jackson has played well as of late.

[painekiller]

26 Bacarri Rambo* S Georgia 6' 1" 208
58 Mike Brewster OC Ohio State 6' 5" 293
89 Mike Martin DT Michigan 6' 2" 299
121 Marquis Maze WR Alabama 5' 10" 179
153 G.J. Kinne QB Tulsa 6' 2" 215
185 Marcus McGraw ILB Houston 6' 0" 210
216 Matt Conrath DE Virginia 6' 7" 270


They have us taking a safety in the 1st round, I've been happy with Quin, so I don't get this one. But it's November...

[NBT]

I think last years Draft, along with the excellent FAs we picked up, indicate that we have really beefed up the defense. So I would like to see the emphasis this time be on the offense.

[painekiller]

25 Devon Still DT Penn State 6' 5" 311
57 Matt Daniels S Duke 6' 1" 200
88 Marvin McNutt WR Iowa 6' 4" 215
120 David Molk OC Michigan 6' 2" 285
152 Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College 6' 1" 196
184 Zach Collaros QB Cincinnati 6' 0" 209
215 Chris Rainey RB Florida 5' 9" 174

They always have us going for a big NT type. Wade has not had one of those in a long time. Cody has done a fairly reasonable job in Wade's system.

My cherry pick:

25 Vontaze Burfict* OLB Arizona State 6' 3" 245
57 Peter Konz OC Wisconsin 6'5" 315
88 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
120 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
184 Keenan Robinson ILB Texas 6' 3" 232
215 Trevor Robinson OG Notre Dame 6' 5" 300

OK I have to many OL guys, but the chance to keep Konz and Zeitler together was fun. Konz is a Junior and may not being coming out, he just hurt his ankle and that might just prompt him to want to be paid.

I would be moving Burfict top ILB same with Robinson. I took Randall where I have him, 3rd round not the 6th like Draftsite has him.

[Nconroe]

I had been thinking perhaps DT or OG-C, now starting to think WR is top need? still time to go however.

[barrett]

Not sure where he's rated, but I really like wright from Baylor if he can be had outside of the 1st. Amazing acceleration. He reminds me of desean Jackson.

[painekiller]

25 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
57 Josh Chapman DT Alabama 6' 1" 310
88 Antonio Allen S South Carolina 6' 2" 205
120 Danny Trevathan ILB Kentucky 6' 1" 228
152 James Wilson OG Florida 6' 3" 318
184 Brandon Mosley OT Auburn 6' 5" 305
215 Justin Francis DE Rutgers 6' 2" 275

Just a draft, not a sexy one and not a bad one.

My try

25 Vontaze Burfict* ILB Arizona State 6' 3" 245 ILB in our 3-4
57 Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State 6' 3" 202
88 Mike Brewster OC Ohio State 6' 5" 293
120 B.J. Cunningham WR Michigan State 6' 2" 205
152 Brandon Taylor S LSU 6' 0" 191
184 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295 no way this guy falls this far
215 Ben Burkett OC Northwestern 6' 4" 300

Burfict is a tackling machine. Him next to Cushing will be a studly pair for the future.

[Mike]

A draft heavy on SEC players. We always manage to get a V-Tech guy every year, so will need to add that.