What's next?

[barrett]

I don't think the problem is McNair or that the answer is Bowlen.

An NFL owner basically has one job, to hire someone to do everything. They get to do that job at most twice a decade. Much of their success is based on who is available when they make that hire. Very much a crap shoot.

Bowlen went young, untested, offensive mind twice in a row and was dead right and dead wrong. I don't think he got stupider from Shanahan to McDaniels or that he knew less about football the 2nd time around. I just think he got lucky the 1st time. Just like I think it would be easy to give Robert Kraft a ton of credit for hiring Bellachik, even though he gave his franchise to a guy who got ran out of cleveland. A lot of it has to do with luck and timing when picking the right guy. I also don't give Bowlen credit for firing McDaniels after he royally screwed up in hiring him in the 1st place 23 months ago. And I am pretty sure if Kubiak took over a winning team and then sold it for spare parts, lost all his games, broke NFL rules, and then was turned in by his own coaching staff, then McNair would have less patience.

I think the problem and the blame should be 100% on Kubiak. He is exactly what you said. A nice, intelligent, but ineffective guy. Fire him as soon as possible.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

I think the problem and the blame should be 100% on Kubiak. He is exactly what you said. A nice, intelligent, but ineffective guy. Fire him as soon as possible.

Oddly, the latest rumor is that Denver wants Kubiak.

I never said intelligent, by the way.

[nunusguy]

I'm only half joking when I ask if Bowlen fired his coach for the Broncos on field performance or if he was just looking for a reason to can him for drafting Tebow in the first round of Aprils Draft ? That was bizarre ?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I'm only half joking when I ask if Bowlen fired his coach for the Broncos on field performance or if he was just looking for a reason to can him for drafting Tebow in the first round of Aprils Draft ? That was bizarre ?

No. Bizarre was trading for Brady quinn and then immediately going out and trading 3 draft picks to get Tebow.

Bizarre was trading a 2010 1st round pick to draft Alphonso Smith in the 2nd round in 2009 and then already getting rid of him.

Bizarre was signing Buckhalter and two other veteran backs two summers ago to deals with guaranteed money and then drafting moreno when they badly needed defense.

Bizarre was having every RB on the roster hurt last year and still giving Hillis only 2 carries all year.

Bizarre was trading for career underachiever Laurence Maroney (I don't know why anyone makes a trade with the Patriots. No matter how good it looks you are somehow being fleeced).

Bizarre was running Denver's two best players out of town.

Bizarre was hiring the videographer who was already caught cheating. Were there no other guys with camera experince?

Bizarre was getting rid of the defensive coordinator who gave them a top defense last year.

McDaniels 2 years in Denver may have been the worst personell and football management job in the history of the NFL. Simply amazing how bad he was and the way he destroyed that franchise on every level in such a short time.

[nunusguy]

Judging from your impressive knowledge of Denvers recent player transactions, apparently you're a frustrated Broncos fan Barrett ?
Nevertheless I gotta say the Tebow pick is a real doozie ? I mean he's involved in rebuilding a team and uses his first round pick on a college
TE/LB who tryed to impersonate a QB in college, though I gotta admit the shuttling of franchise QB to ChiTown is also right there. And while Marshal is incredibly talented, he's really a problem child/head-case and I wonder how long before he's not screwing things up in FLA ?

[barrett]

Not really a Broncos fan for any reason in particular, just always kind of liked them more than most teams. As far as knowing their personnell moves, I guess I just watch too much football. That and I can't stand McDaniels and kind of followed along hoping to see it turn out this way.

But I am all Texans fan and then the Patriots after that (from Massachussetts, but arrived in Houston via Fresno the year before the Texans started and fell in love with the Texans 100x more than any team in any sport. And I haven't even started to grow bitter about a decade of losing yet. In Boston that is like an appetizer).

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

Not really a Broncos fan for any reason in particular, just always kind of liked them more than most teams. As far as knowing their personnell moves, I guess I just watch too much football. That and I can't stand McDaniels and kind of followed along hoping to see it turn out this way.

But I am all Texans fan and then the Patriots after that (from Massachussetts, but arrived in Houston via Fresno the year before the Texans started and fell in love with the Texans 100x more than any team in any sport. And I haven't even started to grow bitter about a decade of losing yet. In Boston that is like an appetizer).

Funny you should mention being from Mass, because while watching the Pats-Jets game last night I told my wife, a Texas native who's lived multiple times in Boston and tells me her impression was that basketball & hockey were the big sports up there, it's a shame that such a great NFL franchise was wasted on an area that's really not a football hotbed. And before coming down here years ago, I'm from around the KC, Mo area where nothing ever compared to the popularity of the Chiefs and you know how people feel about football here.
I mean there's little doubt the Texans have aroused the most interest, the most passion, been the most popular sports team since since the other pro football team, the Oilers, and yet they've just barely sniffed some success with last years first winning record.