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Old 09-06-2010, 01:57 PM
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My problem is signing a lefthander to back up a righthander. The spin on the pass will be reverse and the right side of the OL turns into the blind side if Leinart comes in.

My best hope is that Schaub stays healthy and we flip Leinart to a team later in the season who is desperate due to injuries. If we got a fifth or a sixth for him, that we be great (presuming there's a draft next spring).
The spin of the ball is overrated. It is different but it does not change the basics of catching a football. This is not like a baseball. Most lefties throw a more catchable ball.

Now the protection and the roll outs change. That is a concern.

And Leinart has cement shoes, just what we need another slow footed QB. I will say his on the field stuff is better than Orlovsky, it's his off the field stuff that I am not interested in.

If he can be used to trade to desperate team by the trade deadline than this is a good move. And as a 3rd string QB, he is better than most, and if a team is down to #3 they are done anyway.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:41 PM
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The spin of the ball is overrated. It is different but it does not change the basics of catching a football.
Dude. This is Bob's favorite thing to obsess about. After nearly ten years you should surely know that by now. Every time a left handed quarterback is mentioned Bob leaps up with the concern that the spin is different. I promise you I was laughing to myself about this last night thinking that if the Texans expressed any interest in Leinart you could take it to the bank that Bob would weigh in with the spin business like he always does. Sure enough, he did not disappoint.

And I for one would be perfectly comfortable with Winston protecting a QB's blindside. Let's hope he never has to.
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:27 PM
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Dude. This is Bob's favorite thing to obsess about.
If you knew anything about me, you'd know I obsess about the slow white boy reverse, not the lefthanded QB. I haven't obsessed about that since Tony Banks.
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:30 PM
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If you knew anything about me, you'd know I obsess about the slow white boy reverse, not the lefthanded QB. I haven't obsessed about that since Tony Banks.
Did you see the Reverse they ran with Dorin Dickerson? He had a huge gain, and I even made a comment about it during the Game Thread. I knew you'd be excited to see it being run by some NON-slow white boy.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:21 PM
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If you knew anything about me, you'd know I obsess about the slow white boy reverse, not the lefthanded QB. I haven't obsessed about that since Tony Banks.
You know perfectly well that any and every time anyone mentions a lefthanded QB in relation to the Texans you remind everyone that as far as you're concerned it's a dicey idea because of the reverse spin. It reached a fever pitch around Dave Ragone but that's but one of many examples.

I'm not complaining, mind you, just amused and somewhat comforted. If you quit chiming in on the topic I'd start to worry about you. More than I already do I mean.

And I'm right there with you on the end-around play regardless of whether the ball carrier is slow or non-slow.
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:43 AM
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If you're going to run the reverse at all, why not put it in the hands of burners like Jacoby Jones or Andre Davis? That just seems blatantly obvious to me. Give it to somebody who can actually turn the corner and outrun defenders, particularly since they are already on the roster.

Running it with the slow receiver makes as much sense as running a play where Andre Johnson throws a pass. Now OD is a former quarterback, If you want to run a TE reverse using Daniels with a pass option, I could maybe go for that. Maybe.
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:08 AM
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You do know that the reverse is not designed to work every time, right? There is another purpose to the play, the play is designed to be on film to make the DE stay at home, and crash the running plays from behind.

Showing a play like this every once in the while makes the defenses aware of it and makes them think. That split second they are having to think maybe all the OL needs to spring the RB for a big a gain on the spread play.

Calling plays in the NFL is like a chess match, you show a certain move early in order to set up another move later.
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Old 09-07-2010, 11:34 AM
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It would be nice if our 'setup' play was still good for averaging 3 positive yards.
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:02 PM
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You do know that the reverse is not designed to work every time, right? There is another purpose to the play, the play is designed to be on film to make the DE stay at home, and crash the running plays from behind.

Showing a play like this every once in the while makes the defenses aware of it and makes them think. That split second they are having to think maybe all the OL needs to spring the RB for a big a gain on the spread play.

Calling plays in the NFL is like a chess match, you show a certain move early in order to set up another move later.
That's exactly right and it's one of the reasons I almost never criticise an individual play call by any coach.
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:54 PM
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Calling plays in the NFL is like a chess match, you show a certain move early in order to set up another move later.
Then please explain the 2-yards and a cloud-of-dust flare to (even slower than a white-boy) Leach they so love to run. Do they run other plays to setup that big gainer, or, do they run that play to setup other big plays? For some reason that play never seems to keep defenses off-balance.
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