7 Round Mock

[painekiller]

1. 20: Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
2. 51: Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers
3. 81: Dexter McCluster, RB, Ole Miss
4. 118: Mitch Petrus, OG, Arkansas
5. 150: Andre Roberts, WR, The Citadel
6. 187: Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech (fulfilling our Va Tech draft quota)
6. 197: Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky
7. 227: Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma St.

Would you be willing to trade out of the 1st for say Denver's #43 and #45? We than can go
43 Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
45 Nate Allen S South Florida
51 Linval Joseph* DT East Carolina
81 Lamarr Houston DT Texas
118 Ben Tate RB Auborn

Defense goes off the chart, your back end gets a lot tougher and your DL jumps up in it's ability to move the pocket, and disrupt the run. OL is a still an issue, unless you go early.

And/or would you be willing to trade next years 1st for Philly's 2nd round pick # 37 and select someone like Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech, who is rumored to be on the Texans radar?

[Blitzwood]

I used walterfootball.com since they updated their mock today(4/15) and extented it to 6 rounds. They have us taking:

20. Earl Thomas FS (don't think he'll be around)
51. Ben Tate RB ( look familiar)
81. Amari Spievey CB
118. D'Anthony Smith DT
150. Blair White WR
187. Patrick Stoudamire CB
197. Alex Daniels DE

In this scenario I have the Texans trading their 20th pick for Cleveland's 2nd (38) and two out of their three third rounders (71 and 85). Holmgren knows how to be successful in this league and keep draft analysts guessing. He does it again this year by selecting Clausen at 7 without a doubt, but then the obvious qusetion becomes -who's he gonna throw it to? That's where we come in and select Demaryius Thomas for them, a potential number one. This also helps Kubiak/Smith immensely, he knows the quality depth this draft has in the early to middle rounds. Everyone wins with this trade. I have us selecting:

38. Kareem Jackson CB
51. Lamarr Houston DT
71. Jamar Chaney OLB
81. Amari Spievey CB
85. Jonathan Dwyer RB
118. Myron Lewis FS
150. Trindon Holliday PR/RB
187. Sergio Render OG
197. Alex Daniels DE

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I used walterfootball.com
Texans trading their 20th pick for Cleveland's 2nd (38) and two out of their three third rounders (71 and 85). Holmgren knows how to be successful in this league and keep draft analysts guessing. He does it again this year by selecting Clausen at 7 without a doubt, but then the obvious qusetion becomes -who's he gonna throw it to? That's where we come in and select Demaryius Thomas for them, a potential number one. This also helps Kubiak/Smith immensely, he knows the quality depth this draft has in the early to middle rounds. Everyone wins with this trade. I have us selecting:

38. Kareem Jackson CB
51. Lamarr Houston DT
71. Jamar Chaney OLB
81. Amari Spievey CB
85. Jonathan Dwyer RB
118. Myron Lewis FS
150. Trindon Holliday PR/RB
187. Sergio Render OG
197. Alex Daniels DE

38. CB Patrick Robinson - May be as good as Kyle Wilson
51. OG John Jerry - Run game improves and pass blocking too.
71. RB Toby Gerhart - Short yardage guy
81. RB Montario Hardesty - Insurance vs. injury
85. S Darrell Stuckey - I just like him too much to pass
118. QB Dan LeFevour - Keeps him out of Jax or Tenn (Te'o-Nesheim off board)
150. CB Kevin Thomas - Makes Molden expendable
187. FS Brian Jackson - Will compete with Stuckey for FS slot
197. WR Stephen Williams - My favorite WR not named Benn
227. OG Shelley Smith - Colorado kid with athleticism

The biggest problem is DL

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

I used walterfootball.com

38. Kareem Jackson CB
51. Lamarr Houston DT
71. Jamar Chaney OLB
81. Amari Spievey CB
85. Jonathan Dwyer RB
118. Myron Lewis FS
150. Trindon Holliday PR/RB
187. Sergio Render OG
197. Alex Daniels DE

I'll play with your trade:

38 Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
51 Lamarr Houston, DT, Texas
71 Major Wright, FS, Florida
81 Amari Spievey CB
85 Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
118 Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
150 Jeff Byers, C/G, USC
187 Sergio Render, G, Virginia Tech
197 Stevenson Sylvester, OLB, Utah
227 Shelley Smith, OG Colorado State

[dalemurphy]

How about this trade: 20 and 197 to Phillie for 37, 70, 105

Here is a mock using Sporting News and then one using Walter with that trade in mind:

Sporting News
37.Kareem Jackson (cb)
51.Brian Price (dt)
70.Toby Gerhart (rb)
81.Hardesty (rb)
105.Tennant (c)
118. B Ghee (cb)
150. Myron Rolle (s)
187. Owasu-Ansah (s)
227. Skelton (qb)

Walter
37. Nate Allen (s)
51. Patrick Robinson (cb)
70. John Jerry (g)
81. J Dwyer (rb)
105. Tennant (c)
118. D'Anthony Smith (dt)
150. Joique Bell (rb)
187. Rashawn Jackson (fb)

[nunusguy]

9 QB Tim Tebow Florida
I know you all think I'm crazy but the truth is this kid (for the Bills) is a dream come true. Trading down if all three offensive tackles are taken is an option. The talk of the draft will be Tebow to the Bills if the LT's are gone.
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/...cks/DREW.shtml
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Drew Boylhart continues to provide giggles and grins with his latest mock -
Tebow in the top 10. Right !
For further amusement he's also got us taking Dan Williams at #20. I mean who (besides Boylhart) actually thinks Dan Williams, the absolute best pure NT in this Draft, isn't taken by somebody in the first 19 picks with the NFL stampeding en masse to the 3-4 ?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Drew Boylhart continues to provide giggles and grins with his latest mock -
Tebow in the top 10. Right !
For further amusement he's also got us taking Dan Williams at #20. I mean who (besides Boylhart) actually thinks Dan Williams, the absolute best pure NT in this Draft, isn't taken by somebody in the first 19 picks with the NFL stampeding en masse to the 3-4 ?

The Sporting News has Dan Williams ranked 85th

here is there DT ranking

1 Ndamukong Suh
(Nebraska, DT) 6'3" 307 5.10 32 1.75 2.93 35.5 105.0 4.45 7.22 --
2 Gerald McCoy
(Oklahoma, DT) 6'4" 295 5.05 23 1.73 2.90 30.5 114.0 4.49 7.33 --
3 D'Anthony Smith
(Louisiana Tech, DT) 6'2" 304 4.91 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
4 Jared Odrick
(Penn State, DT) 6'5" 304 5.10 26 1.79 2.95 29.0 106.0 4.60 7.21 --
5 Brian Price
(UCLA, DT) 6'1" 303 5.16 34 1.74 2.93 28.5 96.0 -- -- --
6 Geno Atkins
(Georgia, DT) 6'1" 293 4.86 34 1.74 2.69 33.0 117.0 4.44 7.34 --
7 Arthur Jones
(Syracuse, DT) 6'3" 301 5.06 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
8 Lamarr Houston
(Texas, DT) 6'2" 305 4.88 30 1.65 2.84 33.5 114.0 4.72 7.62 --
9 Jeff Owens
(Georgia, DT) 6'1" 304 5.05 44 1.74 2.95 30.0 101.0 4.68 -- --
10 Al Woods
(LSU, DT) 6'3" 309 5.15 -- 1.74 3.01 37.0 109.0 4.67 7.45 --
11 Linval Joseph
(East Carolina, DT) 6'4" 328 5.10 39 1.80 2.99 30.0 100.0 4.72 8.12 --
12 Dan Williams
(Tennessee, DT) 6'2" 327 5.28 27 1.81 3.08 32.0 96.0 4.88 7.89 --
13 Cam Thomas
(North Carolina, DT) 6'4" 330 5.33 31 1.79 3.06 29.0 102.0 4.78 7.70 --
14 Earl Mitchell
(Arizona, DT) 6'1" 296 4.75 25 1.63 2.77 28.5 107.0 4.56 7.68 --
15 Corey Peters
(Kentucky, DT) 6'3" 300 5.08 -- 1.81 2.95 33.0 98.0 4.77 7.57 --
16 Mike Neal
(Purdue, DT) 6'3" 294 4.94 31 1.71 2.85 33.0 113.0 4.54 7.54 --
17 Tyson Alualu
(California, DT) 6'2" 295 4.94 21 1.68 2.83 35.5 112.0 4.44 7.16 --
18 Terrence Cody
(Alabama, DT) 6'3" 349 5.72 -- 1.93 3.30 20.5 90.0 5.05 8.20 --
19 Brandon Deaderick
(Alabama, DT) 6'3" 314 5.30 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
20 Torrell Troup
(UCF, DT) 6'2" 314 5.18 34 1.81 2.99 29.0 98.0 4.72 7.63 --
21 Shaunte 'Boo' Robinson
(Wake Forest, DT) 6'1" 293 5.01 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
22 Andre Neblett
(Temple, DT) 6'0" 297 4.93 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
23 Kade Weston
(Georgia, DT) 6'4" 318 5.34 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
24 Aleric Mullins
(North Carolina, DT) 6'1" 321 4.99 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
25 Travis Ivey
(Maryland, DT) 6'3" 341 5.25 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
26 Nate Collins
(Virginia, DT) 6'2" 279 5.10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
27 Ekom Udofia
(Stanford, DT) 6'1" 326 5.19 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
28 Vince Oghobaase
(Duke, DT) 6'5" 303 5.47 27 1.88 3.15 26.0 90.0 -- 7.85 --
29 Abe Karoma
(Western Illinois, DT) 6'2" 315 5.00 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
30 Jeff Fitzgerald
(Kansas State, DT) 6'3" 271 4.95 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
31 Cordarrow Thompson
(Virginia Tech, DT) 6'1" 302 5.19 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
32 Jaron Baston
(Missouri, DT) 6'0" 309 5.11 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
33 Nathan Pepper
(South Carolina, DT) 6'1" 300 5.10 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
34 Mick Williams
(Pittsburgh, DT) 6'1" 280 4.93 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
35 Trey Bryant
(Baylor, DT) 6'2" 310 5.15 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
36 Todd Denlinger
(Ohio State, DT) 6'2" 292 5.25 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
37 Ricardo Mathews
(Cincinnati, DT) 6'1" 286 4.97 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
38 Garrett Brown
(Minnesota, DT) 6'1" 309 5.26 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
39 Malcolm Sheppard
(Arkansas, DT) 6'2" 285 5.19 19 1.79 2.99 28.0 100.0 4.77 7.80 --
40 Jake Ricks
(Auburn, DT) 5'2" 290 5.11 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
41 Jeff Stehle
(Wisconsin, DT) 6'4" 297 4.99 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
42 Sirod Williams
(Illinois, DT) 6'0" 296 5.21 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
43 Kyle Love
(Mississippi State, DT) 6'1" 310 5.10 -- -- -- -- -- -- --

So Drew is not out of line, I can see him falling to us, but also would not be surprised if he goes at 13 or so...

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

So Drew is not out of line, I can see him falling to us, but also would not be surprised if he goes at 13 or so...

OK but please don't tell me you could see him falling to a mid-round pick (85th) ?
BTW did you know DB used to work as an advisor to former NY Gov Pataki ?