Front Office/HC/OC/DC who do you want?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

I just feel like Cowher will give this team TESTICLES. At this point, that's what I want.

My wise list is like this

Bill Cowher
Jeff Fisher if he is fired
Mike Holmgren
Steve Mariucci
Marty Schottenheimer
Greg Williams
Jim Fassel
Mike Mularkey
Mike Heimerdinger
Jim Harbaugh
Cam Cameron
Ron Meeks
Mike Tice
Kevin Gilbride


Dream Teams?

HC Bill Cowher
Asst HC / OC Mike Mularkey
DC Jim Haslett


or

HC Mike Holmgren
OC Jim Zorn
DC Ted Cottrell


3-4 defense

Smith - Hampton FA signing - Williams
Cushing - Ryans-Diles -Barwin

[TheMatrix31]

I'll pass on Holmgren...don't really know why though. Maybe I'm underestimating him.

And I definitely don't want Schottenheimer. That guy is an epic fail in the playoffs. Yes, I know we've never been, but I don't want our next perpetual "cycle" to be "get in the playoffs and lose every time". Marty Ball is brutal.

[Fonz the Boss]

We have the players... all we need now is an elite coaching staff. I want Bill Cowher here.

[TexanJedi]

Weird suggestion, but how about Shanahan? Would Gary accept a demotion to offensive coordinator/ Asst. Head Coach? It gives us a coach who has been to the promise land, with Elway I know, but it keeps the Texans from totally retooling. There are questions about would Mike come here after getting rid of Gary which is why I think it needs to be a mutual deal between Gary, Mike, and Bob McNair. I have never heard of such a thing, but who knows it could work. Heck, in a few years Mike could turn the reigns back over to an older, wiser Kubiak who would have a new perspective on being a head coach.

Blast away.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by TexanJedi

Weird suggestion, but how about Shanahan? Would Gary accept a demotion to offensive coordinator/ Asst. Head Coach? It gives us a coach who has been to the promise land, with Elway I know, but it keeps the Texans from totally retooling. There are questions about would Mike come here after getting rid of Gary which is why I think it needs to be a mutual deal between Gary, Mike, and Bob McNair. I have never heard of such a thing, but who knows it could work. Heck, in a few years Mike could turn the reigns back over to an older, wiser Kubiak who would have a new perspective on being a head coach.

Blast away.

Actually I have thought about this alot and think its a viable option. If we cant get Cowher. JMO.

Mike is a good game manager and Kubiack was a good OC. If they could work together (and I dont see why not) It would be an improvement over the situation right now. I also beleive Kubiak will be a good head coach one day. Who knows a step back under his mentor for a couple of years might be what makes the light go on. There are several benefits to this and its not in anyway a step backwards.

[Mike]

Originally Posted by TexanJedi

Weird suggestion, but how about Shanahan? Would Gary accept a demotion to offensive coordinator/ Asst. Head Coach? It gives us a coach who has been to the promise land, with Elway I know, but it keeps the Texans from totally retooling. There are questions about would Mike come here after getting rid of Gary which is why I think it needs to be a mutual deal between Gary, Mike, and Bob McNair. I have never heard of such a thing, but who knows it could work. Heck, in a few years Mike could turn the reigns back over to an older, wiser Kubiak who would have a new perspective on being a head coach.

Blast away.

I don't think that would sit well with Gary. I know that would not sit well if that happened to me. Shanny was a disaster his last few years in Denver and made alot of bad draft decisions.

[TexanJedi]

Originally Posted by Mike

I don't think that would sit well with Gary. I know that would not sit well if that happened to me. Shanny was a disaster his last few years in Denver and made alot of bad draft decisions.

But that's why we keep Rick Smith in charge of personnel.

2008- Ryan Clady and Eddie Royal in the 1st and 2nd.
2007- Jarvis Moss seems to be a bust.
2006- Culter, Scheffler, Marshall, and Dumervil with the first four picks rivals our '06 draft.
2005- Darrent Williams (R.I.P.) was becoming a good corner, not to mention the awesome Chris Myers.
2004- DJ Williams at linebacker.
2000-2003 had some misses. Foster ('03) was traded to Detroit for Dre Bly along with Tatum Bell (picked in '04). Ashley Lelie in the '02 draft, but they did pick Portis in round 2.

I am not sure who was controlling every personnel decision during that time but it seems that talent was not an issue by the end of his tenure. He was a little stubborn about making defensive changes but I can't see him coming here and blowing things up on that side of the ball as we have invested more on defense than Denver did. Yes there were the Maurice Clarett head scratchers from time to time but every team will make missteps. If Gary and Mike accept I think it could work for us.

I like Cowher, though my first choice would always be Tony Dungy but he will not come back to coaching I think, but would we have a small step back during the transistion as he changes the team? Now if you can guarantee me that is what it will take to make this team a Super Bowl contender, then great, let's take our medicine and do it, but of course there are no such guarantees.

I think one off season of focusing on mainly fixing the running game to protect leads and open up the play action passing game even more and we are in playoffs, meaning getting a big back (Gerhart, Dwyer or the like) and a couple of interior linemen or a tackle and slide one of our current tackles inside. I want a nasty running attack that would take pressure off of Schaub, not have issues on short yardage, and keep our defense on the sidelines.

This team is headed in the right direction talent wise so I am not convinced many personnel changes are the answer and I think Cowher might bring that as his system will be totally different I presume, maybe he works with what we have but I have my doubts. I guess my concern is more about learning a new system as we do have good talent already and that would surely be something that attracts Cowher, or any coach for that matter.

[chuck]

There is no way in hell Kubiak would accept a demotion from his current team. That is unheard of and he would become the laughingstock of the league. More so than he already is, I mean.

[Mike]

Holmgren or Cowher would want full control IMO. Shanny rode Elway and Holmgren did it in two places with different QB's, same as Gruden.

Gruden might be a fit with the offense that is already in place, and he ran a 4-3, same with Holmgren.

I think if Mr. McNair does make a change, it has to be a change that has some sizzle with the steak. I do think Kubes does have a chance to save his job though. I am not yet writing him off, he has done a good job getting us to this point. Is this his ceiling? I do not know. This team will be in close games down the stretch, that is what they do. If they do show improvement, and do close some of the better teams out (NE, MIA, JAX) then I think Gary can save his job.

Mr. McNair is in a tough spot. If he is thinking of making a change, he would almost have to go behind Gary's back if this team rallies. If he decides to make the change, he has to upgrade, and not get another coordinator with the way this fan base is. If the team goes to 9-7, Gary is safe IMO.

These last 5 games will be interesting.

[NBT]

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Rick Smith has done a good job, bringing in a lot of sorely needed players on defense lately. I do agree Kube has finally shown he is out of his element and needs to go. If Bill Cower can be enticed to be the HC, that would be fine with me.