What's in the Texans booth?

[Joshua]

I guess my point is that this is just the latest in a fairly long line of screwups by the coaching staff. Also, I try my best not to be a Monday morning QB who complains about a call only after it doesn't work. However, in this case, I (and apparently a lot of other people) knew, in real time, that Moats may have fumbled and were screaming at the TV to snap the ball. This wasn't hindsight.

Sadly, this isn't the first time I've screamed at my TV for the Texans to do something. Reminds me of the Jags game last year when I was screaming for them to call a timeout when we had our punt unit on the field when the Jags had their starting offense out there. I don't claim to be smarter than Kubes and the rest of the staff. That's why it is so mindboggling to me that they don't see the stuff that even I can see.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Joshua

.....This wasn't hindsight.

Again, there was just as many people thinking "nothing wrong".

Originally Posted by Joshua

I guess my point is that this is just the latest in a fairly long line of screwups by the coaching staff.

The coaching staff thought they made the right decison at the time. (And apparently they still do as they have sent in a report to the league office).

Coaching screwups, bad play calls, misuse of the clock - stuff like that happens to all coaching staffs. You hope your team makes as few blunders as possible. (How about the Colts calling timeout and giving K Brown a second chance on the missed the FG? Or taking the ball out of Peyton's hand and letting Reggie Wayne chunk it? How dumb does that look?) You have to get use to a little bit of it.... Doesn't mean you have to like it - but you should be able to tolerate a certain amount...

I don't place this particular incident squarely on the coaches - rather it was a "team" fail. Moats/Schaub/someone other than a few voices on the sidelines could have said "f*** it, we gotta run a play now". Of course, I say this in hindsight....

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by Arky

Again, there was just as many people thinking "nothing wrong".



The coaching staff thought they made the right decison at the time. (And apparently they still do as they have sent in a report to the league office).

Coaching screwups, bad play calls, misuse of the clock - stuff like that happens to all coaching staffs. You hope your team makes as few blunders as possible. (How about the Colts calling timeout and giving K Brown a second chance on the missed the FG? Or taking the ball out of Peyton's hand and letting Reggie Wayne chunk it? How dumb does that look?) You have to get use to a little bit of it.... Doesn't mean you have to like it - but you should be able to tolerate a certain amount...

I don't place this particular incident squarely on the coaches - rather it was a "team" fail. Moats/Schaub/someone other than a few voices on the sidelines could have said "f*** it, we gotta run a play now". Of course, I say this in hindsight....

I get what you're saying and maybe other coaching staffs make as many blunders as ours and I just don't know it because I don't watch them as closely. However, I tend to doubt it. In my opinion, Kubiak has been outcoached far more times than he has outcoached someone else.

Also, you're right that reasonable minds could differ as to whether it was a fumble, but that's kinda the point. If there is even a small chance that you are wrong, you can't risk it. I don't care if the coaches think it was a fumble because that should not be what they were deciding. Put another way, their job wasn't to give their ruling on the fumble, because they don't have any ability to make that call anyway. Their job was to decide whether the ruling was in some way questionable and suspectible to review. I don't see how anyone could come away from the replay and not realize it was at least possibly reviewable. At that point, you do everything you can to avoid the review, regardless of how you think the review might ultimately come out because you can't take the chance.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by Arky

The coaching staff thought they made the right decison at the time. (And apparently they still do as they have sent in a report to the league office).

you are missing the point here. it doesn't matter if they thought it wasn't a fumble or not. if it is close enough that the other side could challenge it you DON'T PUT THE DICISION IN SOMEONE ELSE'S HANDS"

if they snap it, the worst thing that could have happened is they scored immediately and left a few extra seconds on the clock for indy. if they let it run down and were wrong, they give up the ball when they had it on the 2 freaking yard line

[cadams]

Originally Posted by Arky

The coaching staff thought they made the right decison at the time. (And apparently they still do as they have sent in a report to the league office).

you are missing the point here. it doesn't matter if they thought it wasn't a fumble or not. if it is close enough that the other side could challenge it you DON'T PUT THE DICISION IN SOMEONE ELSE'S HANDS

if they snap it, the worst thing that could have happened is they scored immediately and left a few extra seconds on the clock for indy. if they let it run down and were wrong, they give up the ball when they had it on the 2 freaking yard line