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Old 10-12-2009, 08:31 PM
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I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

When he was with the Raiders, they went 8-8 his first two seasons. Then, 12-4 where they won the AFC West and went to the AFC Championship game and lost to Baltimore. As you recall, Baltimore won that SB.

The next season they went 10-6, won the division again, and then played the Patriots in the playoffs in a snowstorm. Remember the tuck rule by Tommy Brady? That game. Patriots won the SB a few weeks later.

Everybody says he's a loser because of Tampa after he won the SB. And they all say it was Dungy's team that won it. Well, who's team did he play in that SB? His old Raider team.

Tampa Bay: Had the Bucs not given those draft picks away to get Gruden they still would've had trouble because of impending salary cap issues which lasted through 2007. That's why Parcells turned the job down.


11 seasons, 5 Division Championships
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:33 PM
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I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

11 seasons, 5 Division Championships
Oh, I love Gruden. Would love to go to a bar and drink beer with him and listen to him talk about the Wildcat. Would go to practice and listen to him say, "are you out of your freakin' mind, are you outta your skull?" However, I don't want him running this team. He's gone from genius to crazy.

The players have to buy in to what the coach is preaching. No way in Hell, do our players pick up what he's preachin' now.

Gruden is a fascination of mine. I always want to hear what he says, which is why I'm glad he's on t.v. He reminds me of some of my Drill Instructors from Parris Island.

Right now, he's on a research and study session. If Shannahan gets hired by the Redskins, Cowboys, Bills, or whoever, it will be interesting to see if he hires Gruden to be the O.C. (assuming Kubiak or "lil Shan" isn't available).
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:11 PM
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Well, according to 610 this afternoon, Gruden is not only a name to replace Kubiak being bantered about, but also the guy being talked about to replace Jim Zorn in D.C.
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