Front Office/HC/OC/DC who do you want?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Roy P

As long as we can get some Philly folks, I'd be happy. Perhaps we would get some bigger O-Linemen and pass the ball and be happy. Maybe the D would actually create some pressure on the QB.

I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything. They have a one dimensional offense that doesn't run the ball and their defense got shredded by the only decent offense it has faced this year.

[TheMatrix31]

Who do you people suggest?

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Who do you people suggest?

They few guys I liked where hired in the last the off season. Rex Ryan was my 1st choice. Jim Schwartz was my 2nd choice. And Mike Singletary was my 3rd choice. I also like Mike Nolan and he can be had.

Now I am open, unless Jeff Fisher becomes available.

[edo783]

I hear Tom Cable will be available.

[popanot]

Mornhinweg can have the best resume in the world, but all fans will remember is his failed tenure with the lowly Lions. If this team hires him it will prove to me McNair has no clue at all and I'll bet season ticket sales will go into the toilet. If they want to raid the Eagles for some of their front office people, I'm good with that as they've shown they know how to run a franchise with an eye on fiscal responsibility.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

Mornhinweg can have the best resume in the world, but all fans will remember is his failed tenure with the lowly Lions. If this team hires him it will prove to me McNair has no clue at all and I'll bet season ticket sales will go into the toilet. If they want to raid the Eagles for some of their front office people, I'm good with that as they've shown they know how to run a franchise with an eye on fiscal responsibility.

Give a name or two that you think can be sold to the fans. And remember that is what Capers was considered.

IMO the big named guys are not coming to Houston.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Give a name or two that you think can be sold to the fans. And remember that is what Capers was considered.

IMO the big named guys are not coming to Houston.

I don't think it has to be a big named guy, but I do think they'd have a hard sell with Mornhinweg considering his head coaching history. It would not create excitment and I think it'd be a downer to most. The thought would be "Well, he failed miserably in Detroit and now we hire him?". Like I said, you and Roy may love him and he may be great, but I don't think most fans would buy it. And I don't think McNair would want to do that considering how awful this franchise has been. Just my opinion...

If you want me to throw out big name coaches, then I'll go with Holmgren or Gruden. Not that I neccessarily want either of them (although I'd probably be fine with either). I just think those are two big name guys who would come here for the right offer. No way Cowher comes here and no way we hire Shanahan after Kubiak.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by popanot

Mornhinweg can have the best resume in the world, but all fans will remember is his failed tenure with the lowly Lions. If this team hires him it will prove to me McNair has no clue at all and I'll bet season ticket sales will go into the toilet.

The fans won't care if he's not an Aggie or from Texas or coached the Lions, when this team finally has MORE wins than losses.

McNair would prove that he wants this team to get better. Once the Texans make the playoffs, we won't be able to buy season tickets at face value.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by Roy P

The fans won't care if he's not an Aggie or from Texas or coached the Lions, when this team finally has MORE wins than losses.

McNair would prove that he wants this team to get better. Once the Texans make the playoffs, we won't be able to buy season tickets at face value.

What does Aggie or Texas have to do with anything? You may think he's fantastic, but I'll guarantee you what most fans will see is 'Marty Mornhinweg, ex-coach fired by one of the worst franchises ever'. He may turn out great, but fans are not going to like it and it will show at the gate. That's all I'm saying.

[painekiller]

Some names I want to hear some input on .

Jim Harbaugh, former QB coach of the Raiders, current HC of Stanford.

An old name not mentioned recently, Steve Mariucci. I know he was another Lions bust, but was it the coaches or the GM and lack of talent?

Mike Heimerdinger is another WCO general who has had mixed success. A former roommate of Shanahan's.

Brian Schottenheimer, Marty's son, is the current Jets OC. He is having some success.

Old School, Dan Henning currently the OC with the Dolphins.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by edo783

I hear Tom Cable will be available.

Nope. He's going to be coaching a team that wears striped britches. And I'm not talking about today's Broncos.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Who do you people suggest?

GM - Howie Roseman Currently VP player personnel
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...seman_h_1.html

HC - Marty Mornhinweg Currently Assistent HC/Offensive OC
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...nhinweg_1.html

OC - Tom Clements Currently Packers QB coach
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/clements_tom/

DC - Dennis Thurman Currently Jets Defensive Backs coach
http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...dennis-thurman


I think I put this somewhere. I'm not married to Thurman at the DC. I'd be more than happy to get someone on Jim Johnson's coaching tree like Rory Segrest or Bill Shuey. Before we hired Frank Bush, I was hopeful we'd at least interview Sean McDermott (who has taken over since JJ's death for the Eagles).

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything. They have a one dimensional offense that doesn't run the ball and their defense got shredded by the only decent offense it has faced this year.

That is the HC calling the plays. Once he passed off the play calling last season they won 6 in arow with a balanced attach. Laugh if you want
but Mornhinweg has an excellent resume.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by barrett

I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything.

Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.

Isn't that what McNair bought into when he turned his team into South Denver?

NFL is not for long. Just sayin'. Maybe the Eagles system would prove to be better than the Broncos system. Depends on the person. Just look at the New England system. After Belichick, and before this initial run by McDaniels, guys from the Pats system haven't been locks for success.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. So what personality do we want?

[coloradodude]

I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

When he was with the Raiders, they went 8-8 his first two seasons. Then, 12-4 where they won the AFC West and went to the AFC Championship game and lost to Baltimore. As you recall, Baltimore won that SB.

The next season they went 10-6, won the division again, and then played the Patriots in the playoffs in a snowstorm. Remember the tuck rule by Tommy Brady? That game. Patriots won the SB a few weeks later.

Everybody says he's a loser because of Tampa after he won the SB. And they all say it was Dungy's team that won it. Well, who's team did he play in that SB? His old Raider team.

Tampa Bay: Had the Bucs not given those draft picks away to get Gruden they still would've had trouble because of impending salary cap issues which lasted through 2007. That's why Parcells turned the job down.


11 seasons, 5 Division Championships

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by coloradodude

I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

11 seasons, 5 Division Championships

Oh, I love Gruden. Would love to go to a bar and drink beer with him and listen to him talk about the Wildcat. Would go to practice and listen to him say, "are you out of your freakin' mind, are you outta your skull?" However, I don't want him running this team. He's gone from genius to crazy.

The players have to buy in to what the coach is preaching. No way in Hell, do our players pick up what he's preachin' now.

Gruden is a fascination of mine. I always want to hear what he says, which is why I'm glad he's on t.v. He reminds me of some of my Drill Instructors from Parris Island.

Right now, he's on a research and study session. If Shannahan gets hired by the Redskins, Cowboys, Bills, or whoever, it will be interesting to see if he hires Gruden to be the O.C. (assuming Kubiak or "lil Shan" isn't available).

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by coloradodude

I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

Well, according to 610 this afternoon, Gruden is not only a name to replace Kubiak being bantered about, but also the guy being talked about to replace Jim Zorn in D.C.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Keith

So what personality do we want?

Umm...Sean Payton has a job.

What is Jim Fassell doing these days?
Could we get Al Groh away from Virginia?

Anyone heard of Tim Murphy or Rick Minter at Cinci?

Maybe Todd Bowles of Miami would be sufficient.

[painekiller]

Kenny Anderson is the Steelers QB coach, remember him being the original WCO QB? Look it up, Walsh was his QB coach under HC Paul Brown. That is where the WCO started to take shape. It's based on the Paul Brown and Sid Gillman coaching tree.