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Old 10-11-2009, 06:19 PM
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This team is two Chris Brown-goalline-failures away from being 4-1.

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Old 10-11-2009, 06:20 PM
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This team is two Chris Brown-goalline-failures away from being 4-1.

F'n A.
I wonder how he feels now.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:22 PM
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I wonder how he feels now.
I don't give a shit how he feels. I don't want him to see the field on a goalline situation AGAIN. EVER.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:23 PM
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I don't give a shit how he feels. I don't want him to see the field on a goalline situation AGAIN. EVER.
I don't see how he can be blamed today. He had nothing to work with up front.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:24 PM
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I tell ya, the coaches are gonna catch hell from the fans... Why the weak middle? Why not run it over D Brown or Winston? Just.... crazy.....
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:29 PM
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we would've done better with the play action pass to Leach; with OD as the second option on the drag.

Why the hell do we put the game in the hands of Chris Meyers. Because he got blew up is essentially the reason we did not get in.

Hell how about a screen Slaton. Why put the whole game in the hands of the OLine. They did nothing all game long. They were not the reason we were even in the position to win or tie it anyway.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:32 PM
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Its like we also just let them know when we were gonna snap the ball. They beat our OLine off the snap.

If your OLine sucks that bad, "and you know this man", why the hell don't resort to some way to get the edge.

Hell, now that I think about it we had to call a qb sneak earlier on 3rd down inches.

Terrible execution.

For any normal team, that would've been a good play call. But because again we don't have the personnel to make that play it was a TERRIBLE play call.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:27 PM
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Why isn't Caldwell playing RG now. Anything would be an improvement as far as the rushing game is concerned. Odoms just flat owned us the whole game. Offensive line coach should hide his head in shame.

You can't start 21 points behind and expect to win many games in this league. And it won't get any easier.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:38 PM
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This team is two Chris Brown-goalline-failures away from being 4-1.

F'n A.
That's kinda my thought although I blame Schaub's bad pass in the end zone as the major fail of that drive. We could be 4-1 were it not for a couple of bad plays/calls.

Gotta like the comeback, though. I'm afraid I have to agree that the playcalling lost this game.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:45 PM
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The playcalling lost all the games. Just think had we decided to commit to the pass earlier maybe we might have had 10 points in the first half. In which case we would have won the game. I know its a reach, but not much of one.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:04 AM
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That's kinda my thought although I blame Schaub's bad pass in the end zone as the major fail of that drive. We could be 4-1 were it not for a couple of bad plays/calls.

Gotta like the comeback, though. I'm afraid I have to agree that the playcalling lost this game.
They called the play action pass on the perfect down and had a man wide open in the end zone with minimal pressure on the QB. If the players can't complete an open 1 yard pass then I blame the players (or whoever got them). You can't blame the play calling when they made what should have been a game tying call.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:24 AM
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You can't blame the play calling when they made what should have been a game tying call.
That is a good point. Dreesen's foot was about 3 inches out of the back of the end-zone. The play call caught the defense by surprise and it was open.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:54 PM
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This team is two Chris Brown-goalline-failures away from being 4-1.

F'n A.
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091011.html

I was thinking the same thing, assuming the Texans win in those overtimes, of course.

There's some kind of head coach macho-ism that exists to say that the team who wants it more should get that final yard. But for Kubiak there needs to be some kind of realization that his offense is built for the pass first.

Almost felt like I was watching the Run n' Shoot out there this afternoon, or least the pre-RnS Red Gun version or something. The biggest difference is that this offense uses more tight ends and naked boots, but like the RnS, these guys need to figure out how they are going to score inside the 5-yard line. Find a jumbo package, run a draw from 4-wide, whatever, but what they are doing now obviously isn't working.

And it's a shame considering how close this team really is to being 4-1 right now. But instead, we're probably looking at another 8-8 finish at this rate.
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:24 AM
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If we're gonna win 9 games this year we have to immediately pass 75% of the time...we have no run game and everybody knows it.

BTW, now that the broncos are 5-0 and we are 2-3, well, I have to move.


Thank you McNair.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:26 AM
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http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091011.html

I was thinking the same thing, assuming the Texans win in those overtimes, of course.

There's some kind of head coach macho-ism that exists to say that the team who wants it more should get that final yard. But for Kubiak there needs to be some kind of realization that his offense is built for the pass first.

Almost felt like I was watching the Run n' Shoot out there this afternoon, or least the pre-RnS Red Gun version or something. The biggest difference is that this offense uses more tight ends and naked boots, but like the RnS, these guys need to figure out how they are going to score inside the 5-yard line. Find a jumbo package, run a draw from 4-wide, whatever, but what they are doing now obviously isn't working.

And it's a shame considering how close this team really is to being 4-1 right now. But instead, we're probably looking at another 8-8 finish at this rate.
And the worst part is, this is the easy part of our schedule. We should be no worse than 5-2 after 7 games. Instead, we're 2-3.

Argh.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:32 AM
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http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091011.html
And it's a shame considering how close this team really is to being 4-1 right now. But instead, we're probably looking at another 8-8 finish at this rate.
And on the other hand we really aren't that far from 1-4.
Lets face it, we're plateauing under Kubiak - he may have hit his limit at .500 ?
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:57 PM
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Re-watching the game and noticed when the Cards ran 4 - WRs in their formation, we actually had only 3 Downlinemen and kept Cushing on the field as a "blitzer" so we still rushed 4.

That first drive Warner did a great job of finding mis-matches in our defense. He hit Fitzgerald out of the slot when we had DeMeco Ryans covering him while Zac Diles blitzed. Ryans couldn't keep up and Fitzgerald out ran him to the next window between the safety and CB. Also, Warner passed to Hightower out of the backfield when we ran a Zone-Blitz that had Connor Barwin dropping into coverage.

The second drive, Steve Breaston made a push-off on Glover Quinn at 5:32 1st Qtr for a completion. You can see Kubiak yelling at the refs.
The next play, Fitzgerald comes in motion and continues to run in the flat out of the reach of Pollard. Bolden took the CB deep out of the play leaving Fitz on Pollard for a quick pick up. That set up 2nd and 1 and they run a play-action pass and Fitzgerald schooled Dunta Robinson on a comeback and Dunta lost his footing. They ran up the middle next, and Pollard stopped the run for a 1 yard gain. Shotgun, RB goes left for an empty backfield, we rush 4 and get some pressure making Warner step up to hit Urban coming across underneath zone coverage. The zone had a big hole as Robinson went back toward the endzone, Ryans and Diles covered other players. Warner hits a slant and Quinn and Wilson create a fumble for Ryans to pick up. Score remains 7-0. Defense gave the offense the ball and created a turnover in the Red Zone.

Our offense gets into the Red Zone and Schaub overthrows Andre in the endzone. Kris Brown gets his FG attempt blocked.

Cards 3rd drive. Hightower gets stopped by Okoye in the backfield. Bolden catches a pass over the middle (couldn't see play b/c they were showing blocked FG replay). 3rd and 7 - shotgun Hightower tackled immediately in flat, Cards go 3 and out. Punt.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:47 PM
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After Dre dropped the 3rd and 2 slant pass, we punted setting up Cards next drive. Tight trips left, Fitz to right, Wells follows pulling guard for 2 yard gain, Bulman makes tackle. 4-Wrs, Shotgun with RB to Warner's left, Cushing bltzes and we rush with 4 DLs, Breaston slides behind Zone CB Reeves and in front of Pollard. Beanie runs "Wildcat" and we stop him for gain of 2 yards. Hightower tries to go outside for a gain of 1. 3rd and 7, shotgun with 2 RBs, Stephens-Rowling can't catch pass. Okoye was in Warner's face. Cards Punt.

Slaton couldn't convert 3rd and 1 following Leach, Winston and Myers. Texans punt. Cards start at their own 32 yard line. Warner has pass knocked down by Okoye. Shotgun, Fitz in motio for screen. Reeves couldn't get off block, Mario was pass rushing, Cushing blocked by TE, so Fitzgerald gets 10 yards after making the catch behind the LOS. Play-action, Bulman takes Warner down and Warner throws into the dirt. Sendlein called for holding anyway for loss of 10. 1st and 20, Shotgun w/ 4-WRs, Urban makes out and gains 12 as McCain gave him too much cushion. Cushing was the 4th rusher as we only play Okoye, Williams, and Smith on the DL. 2nd and 8, 4WRs, shotgun, we blitz Cushing and Ryans this time: Warner completes pass to Bolden while Quinn tried to cover. 1st and 10 - 4WRs, play action fake reverse, Breaston is wide open between Ryans, Quinn, Pollard, Wilson, Robinson, and McCain. That was good for 22 yards... Definitely a breakdown in Zone coverage. 2 minute warning. Wells goes up the middle, Cody stops him for 4 yards. 2nd and 6 - WRs to left, I formation, Reeves gets called for PI on Bolden during the Slant route. 1st and Goal - Shotgun 4WRs: we rush Barwin, Okoye, Smith, and Williams. Cushing and Ryans both stand in the middle of the field and Cushing takes the RB coming out of the backfield. Warner has plenty of time - Dunta Robinson trail Fitzgerald in the back of the endzone and Warner finds him for a TD. I believe we could have sent Ryans or Cushing on a delay-blitz. Cards up 14 - 0.
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