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Old 06-02-2009, 12:15 AM
Joel Joel is offline
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wow. ok, if i ever needed another reason to keep my sons away from football, you guys just handed it to me.

and to think i was just worried about paralysis.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:30 AM
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wow. ok, if i ever needed another reason to keep my sons away from football, you guys just handed it to me.

and to think i was just worried about paralysis.
How you were expecting people to draw the conclusion you were "thinking paralysis" and not steriods in your first post is beyond me. And I guess you need to keep your kids away from all sports as well as the gym if you're concerned about performance enhancing drugs, etc. Most of the time these kids do it because of peer pressure and because their friends are doing it.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:18 AM
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wow. ok, if i ever needed another reason to keep my sons away from football, you guys just handed it to me.

and to think i was just worried about paralysis.
I am very confused by this given your original comments. Maybe I need the paint by numbers version of this chain.
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Old 06-02-2009, 12:25 PM
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Steriod rumors as they relate to Cushing are fair game in here (heck, this is an internet message board after all), but let's please move on from any misunderstandings in this thread and rejoin the convo about Cushing.
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Old 06-02-2009, 12:46 PM
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Steriod rumors as they relate to Cushing are fair game in here (heck, this is an internet message board after all), but let's please move on from any misunderstandings in this thread and rejoin the convo about Cushing.
The silliest thing about Cushing, in my opinion, were those analysts who were knocking him because they thought he watches his diet too closely. Talk about reaching!
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Old 06-02-2009, 02:09 PM
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The silliest thing about Cushing, in my opinion, were those analysts who were knocking him because they thought he watches his diet too closely. Talk about reaching!
I'm actually torn on this. While it's clearly not a bad thing that he works as hard as he does to stay in shape, I think the point some were trying to make is that Cushing may already be tapped out physically with no room for growth. If he has to work this hard to maintain his current form, I can see why some might consider this a question mark.
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Old 06-02-2009, 02:19 PM
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I'm actually torn on this. While it's clearly not a bad thing that he works as hard as he does to stay in shape, I think the point some were trying to make is that Cushing may already be tapped out physically with no room for growth. If he has to work this hard to maintain his current form, I can see why some might consider this a question mark.
Actually I think the concerns were more that he is too obsessive about his appearance/diet/physique as compared to the game. In that, his diet/body building would take precedent over, or be a detriment to his film study and/or play on the field.

I think that's a legitimate, yet unlikely concern. I'm more worried about his injury potential (which, coincidentally, could also be a result of his body building) than anything else.
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Old 06-02-2009, 04:15 PM
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Actually I think the concerns were more that he is too obsessive about his appearance/diet/physique as compared to the game. In that, his diet/body building would take precedent over, or be a detriment to his film study and/or play on the field.

I think that's a legitimate, yet unlikely concern. I'm more worried about his injury potential (which, coincidentally, could also be a result of his body building) than anything else.

That more closely resembles my impression of the concerns over his prepared meals. It led to an image that he is a pretty boy more concerned with how he looks in the mirror than how he plays on the field. Lifting weights to look good at the beach isn't necessarily the same type of workout that would help you get better as a football player.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:28 PM
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I think the point some were trying to make is that Cushing may already be tapped out physically with no room for growth.
What do you mean by that exactly ? We are talking about a young man who is 22 or 23 who at that age is surely at the height of his physical maturity in terms of pure athleticism, we aren't talking about a 17 or an 18 year-old HS athlete. Now he will improve mentally (hopefully), both thru psychological maturation and learning the game and becoming experienced as a pro, as an NFL player which should make him a better football player. But his pure physical prowess will never exceed where he's at now, atleast I don't think it will ?
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:35 PM
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What do you mean by that exactly ? We are talking about a young man who is 22 or 23 who at that age is surely at the height of his physical maturity in terms of pure athleticism, we aren't talking about a 17 or an 18 year-old HS athlete. Now he will improve mentally (hopefully), both thru psychological maturation and learning the game and becoming experienced as a pro, as an NFL player which should make him a better football player. But his pure physical prowess will never exceed where he's at now, atleast I don't think it will ?
Well, first off, it wasn't really my point, just one I had heard others make (as well as the body builder point that others have also made). In short, I think some were concerned that it took an incredible amount of dietary efforts (regimented diet/supplements/etc.) and working out for Cushing to be the 245 guy he was at the Combine. Unless he were to keep up what many have viewed as a pretty rigorous routine, he might not maintain his physique. Thus, it may require a tremendous amount of discipline by a freshly made millionaire to maintain the strength and speed you drafted him for. Maybe you get that discipline, maybe you don't.

In all honesty, I really don't have a problem with Cushing or his workout routine and he seems like a guy who is going to go all out to try and be successful. I was just chiming in on one of the concerns raised at the time of the Combine.
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