Official Texans vs. Dolphins Thread, 10/12/2008

[Arky]

Yippeeeeeeee! WooooooooHoooooooo!

[popanot]

Well whadddaya know.... Someone finally made a play.

[painekiller]

I'm in shock. Schaub showed up big on the last drive.

[Arky]

Allrighty, then...

Schaub and the Texans get off the schneid.....

Final score:

Texans 29, Dolphins 28

Clutch comeback...

[TheMatrix31]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I'm in shock. Schaub showed up big on the last drive.

YES!

It's a damn shame that this team should be 3-2 right now.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I'm in shock. Schaub showed up big on the last drive.

Yeh but he got lucky that AJ made that int saving catch on the lst drive or he would be getting run out of town right now.

[nunusguy]

Finally ! ! !

[NBT]

BUT......we finally made the play when we had to! That is the difference. Now we can hold our heads up again, and go on from here.

Well, there is one thing.......Do Something about that defense and those frickin turnovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HPF Bob]

Important win for the rest of the season's outlook. Something to build on. Gutty call on 4th down with the QB draw instead of a rollout run-pass option.
I suppose it being on fourth down meant there was nothing to lose but, man, watching that stork cover six yards must have seemed like five minutes getting across the goal line.

[cadams]

1. to start out with something good, the team did what they had to do at the end of the game to get the win

2. I have been a kubiak supporter all along, but I am starting to think we have the wrong coach. I hope I am wrong, but at the end of the first, Miami was going to call a time out, but didn't because they were measuring for a first down. The Texans didn't get it, so they punted, but the clock started running and the Texans punted immediately instead of letting the clock run down or making the Miami call a time out. Second, well coached teams have players that make smart plays. The interception the Texans got at the end of the game should have iced it. The DBs should have known that if they got a pick with under 4 minutes to go you fall on the ball or at a minimum run for OB to make sure your offense can run time off the clock. That play almost cost them the win.

3. Slayton is the real deal.

4. I am really starting to worry that Schaub isn't the guy. He makes way to many mental mistakes.

5. Mario is a stud.

6. While I hope they can salvage the season, right now I don't think they are a very good team.


All this to say, I am excited they did what they had to do to win. It was good to finally get to leave the game happy . . .even if they didn't cover.

[TheMatrix31]

Kubiak is the right guy, he just needs to work on game management issues. That stuff can be resolved.

I'm not quite as sure Schaub is the guy, but he led a great sequence at the end there.

I think we need to invest in a QB in the draft somewhere.

[barrett]

I like Kubiak, but he is a bad gameday coach. I think he prepares guys well, inspires loyalty in both his staff and players, and has a good football mind. However, he is just plain bad in terms of gameday stuff. And I don't think it's just something that will get better. It may be a step back, some time as an assistant, and another go before he figures those things out. I fear we may have hired a good coach before he became good.

As for Schaub, he played very Sage-like today (making lots of plays and lots of mistakes). If we win the next two games, we will end up respectable this year, and I think both Schaub and Kubiak are safe through another off-season. A loss to either the chiefs or lions right now and it all spirals.

[TexicanMexican]

I'm starting to think Kubiak gives Shanahan too much authority on offense. Some of the play calls on offense were questionable. Too many times they throw on first and don't complete thereby stopping the clock and left in long third down situations. I thought that they were moving the ball well by punching it up the gut but they got away from that.

Schaub is getting happy feet back there in the pocket and still trying to force plays. It's not pretty.

I'd like to see a more experienced offensive coordinator brought in. If nothing else to change the play calling.

It was funny watching all the people leave after the last Miami TD only to watch them all scrambling back to watch the finish. It was a crazy game to be at but fun in the end to finally be on the winning end of one. I'll be at my usual seat next week.

[sinnister]

I just got home from the game. A 5 hour drive for me. My first game at Reliant Stadium, and it was a blast.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by TexicanMexican

I'm starting to think Kubiak gives Shanahan too much authority on offense. Some of the play calls on offense were questionable. .

I don't think Kid-shanny gets too much say behind Kubiak and Gibbs. i could be wrong, but i don't think he has free reign to call the offense.

Originally Posted by barrett

As for Schaub, he played very Sage-like today (making lots of plays and lots of mistakes). .

spot on.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by barrett

I like Kubiak, but he is a bad gameday coach. I think he prepares guys well, inspires loyalty in both his staff and players, and has a good football mind. However, he is just plain bad in terms of gameday stuff. And I don't think it's just something that will get better. It may be a step back, some time as an assistant, and another go before he figures those things out. I fear we may have hired a good coach before he became good.

I agree with part of this. I don't think our guys are terribly well prepared. We get pantsed every week at least once. I knew the Dolphins would have a Wildcat wrinkle and I had little faith in our staff sniffing it out. Sure enough, reverse to Pennington with a wide open receiver for a TD. Granted, they had not run this play before, but our coaches are paid to get these guys prepared for any scenario. While I don't expect them to be perfect, when I can name a play or 2 in virtually every game where we simply didn't know what was going on, that's a bad trend.

The most inexcusable coaching blunder was on 4th down at the end of the half. Miami used a timeout but the refs gave it back because they stopped the clock to measure. However, once they blew the whistle, the clock starts running again, with about 40 seconds in the half (and about 20 on the play clock). Obviously, we should either force them to then use their timeout or run the play clock down. Instead, we snapped the ball with over 15 seconds on the play clock and just give them 15 extra seconds. Luckily, it didn't hurt us, but these types of blunders are ridiculous. I don't understand how I can pick this up sitting in Reliant's rafters but our coaching staff of 15 can't. It's just not a good gameday squad and will ultimately cost us games if they keep having 1-2 screw ups a game.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by Joshua

I agree with part of this. I don't think our guys are terribly well prepared. We get pantsed every week at least once. I knew the Dolphins would have a Wildcat wrinkle and I had little faith in our staff sniffing it out. Sure enough, reverse to Pennington with a wide open receiver for a TD. Granted, they had not run this play before, but our coaches are paid to get these guys prepared for any scenario.

The thing is I remember hearing them talk about something like that leading up to the game. It was Kubiak or one of the players. They knew at some point there would be a lateral to Pennington, and had at least discussed it.

I agree that it always seems to happen, and some of the gameday decisions are bad, but in this case it's even more frustrating because I know it was something that was discussed.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Joshua

I agree with part of this. I don't think our guys are terribly well prepared. We get pantsed every week at least once. I knew the Dolphins would have a Wildcat wrinkle and I had little faith in our staff sniffing it out. Sure enough, reverse to Pennington with a wide open receiver for a TD. Granted, they had not run this play before, but our coaches are paid to get these guys prepared for any scenario. While I don't expect them to be perfect, when I can name a play or 2 in virtually every game where we simply didn't know what was going on, that's a bad trend.

The coaches had this covered, some player blew his coverage. I thought at the time it was Harrison, but McClain said he thought it was one of the LBs, all I know was I could see Harrison moving towards cutting off the sweep, and having that oh no moment when he realized it was a pass.

Blame that one on the players, not the coaches.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by painekiller

The coaches had this covered, some player blew his coverage. I thought at the time it was Harrison, but McClain said he thought it was one of the LBs, all I know was I could see Harrison moving towards cutting off the sweep, and having that oh no moment when he realized it was a pass.

Blame that one on the players, not the coaches.

While I certainly agree with that to some extent, if the players are continually making mental mistakes, then it still comes back to the coaches in my opinion. That's great that the coaches supposedly prepared for it, but if they didn't practice it enough that the players on the field could recognize it, what's the point? The bottom line is, are the players prepared to the point that they are in position to make a play? Routinely, they are not.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Joshua

While I certainly agree with that to some extent, if the players are continually making mental mistakes, then it still comes back to the coaches in my opinion. That's great that the coaches supposedly prepared for it, but if they didn't practice it enough that the players on the field could recognize it, what's the point? The bottom line is, are the players prepared to the point that they are in position to make a play? Routinely, they are not.

You just described the trouble with a young team. The players do not recognize things quick enough. And in the NFL, half a step is open. It hurts but that is why you have to play the younger guys, so they get enough reps and continue to grow.