Bye Brock

[bikerack]

Osweiler is being shipped to Cleveland, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports. The compensation? The Texans have to give the Browns a 2018 second-round draft pick and a 2017 sixth-round pick. The Browns ship a 2017 fourth-round pick to Houston.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-to-cleveland/

[bikerack]

https://twitter.com/TexansCap/status/839939952762896385

Cleveland basically is spending $16m to buy a 2nd round pick in 2018, in exchange giving up a 4th

[Arky]

Wow!

Brock's huge contract no longer screwing things up but sucks we lose next year's #2 pick..... Still, probably the only decent way to clean the slate....

Romo coming to Houston?

[bikerack]

Sounds like CLE is going to try to spin Brock elsewhere or cut him. They had money to burn this yr and spent it on a 2018 2nd.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Arky

Wow!

Brock's huge contract no longer screwing things up but sucks we lose next year's #2 pick..... Still, probably the only decent way to clean the slate....

Romo coming to Houston?

The Texans should get a 3 next year for Bouye. That will help some.

[bikerack]

https://twitter.com/awexlerKPRC/stat...52369135857664

Brown's 4th rd pick to #Texans is 1st pick of the round (108 overall).


Take the above with a grain of salt - now there are conflicting reports.

[barrett]

I put this in another thread a month ago. This (paying the Browns) was the only way we were trading Brock. How bad was your initial move when it was a smart move to pay a 2nd round pick to make it go away?

Either way good on Rick Smith for admitting the mistake this quick. Most NFL GMs choose to deny, deny, deny when they screw up. The downside of his admission is that only a GM with absolutely no job security concerns would publicly admit a mistake like this.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

I put this in another thread a month ago. This (paying the Browns) was the only way we were trading Brock. How bad was your initial move when it was a smart move to pay a 2nd round pick to make it go away?

Either way good on Rick Smith for admitting the mistake this quick. Most NFL GMs choose to deny, deny, deny when they screw up. The downside of his admission is that only a GM with absolutely no job security concerns would publicly admit a mistake like this.

I said all along that BO was McNeck's decision. I'm not alone in thinking this but today's events provide further evidence that this is the case. More interestingly and more importantly they also indicate to me that BOB has, as he would say, juice within the organization. I would not have bet on that given his contract status and last season's leaks and the obvious personality mismatch between him and his owner.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

I said all along that BO was McNeck's decision. I'm not alone in thinking this but today's events provide further evidence that this is the case. More interestingly and more importantly they also indicate to me that BOB has, as he would say, juice within the organization. I would not have bet on that given his contract status and last season's leaks and the obvious personality mismatch between him and his owner.

The day after the NE game all 6 NFL teams with openings were still waiting to see if BOB would walk from Houston. He could have been employed 10 minutes after he quit here. I suspect he walked in that same day with that leverage and told McNair, "Brock goes or I go."

I also wouldn't be totally shocked if JJ privately said something about his willingness to come back from back injury being tied to the team not wasting a year of his remaining career on Brock Osweiller. You can't have QB play that bad and defense that good, without fractures in the locker room.

[Warren]

So closing the book on Brock:

Costs:

• $12 million in 2016 cap space
• $9 million in 2017 cap space
• 2017 6th round pick
• 2018 2nd round pick
• Opportunity cost of drafting another QB in 2016 or giving Savage more snaps to determine if he can be the guy

ROI:

• 2017 4th round pick
• 8-6 record as a starter (1-1 in the playoffs), 15/16 (2/3) TD/Int, 55.3 (63.9) QBR, 5.12 (5.62) Yds/Att

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Warren

So closing the book on Brock:

Costs:

• $12 million in 2016 cap space
• $9 million in 2017 cap space
• 2017 6th round pick
• 2018 2nd round pick
• Opportunity cost of drafting another QB in 2016 or giving Savage more snaps to determine if he can be the guy

ROI:

• 2017 4th round pick
• 8-6 record as a starter (1-1 in the playoffs), 15/16 (2/3) TD/Int, 55.3 (63.9) QBR, 5.12 (5.62) Yds/Att

I remember the argument for him last summer being he didn't cost us a draft pick.

[chuck]

McNeck's eating shit in public is about the best thing that can happen in the offseason.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

I remember the argument for him last summer being he didn't cost us a draft pick.

They usually discount future picks a year out by a round so we are spending a 3rd round pick (second rounder discounted to present value), to get Clevland to assume BOs contract.
BTW I'm still puzzled why some think McNair would dish out the coin he did for alleged QB specialist O"Brien to be his HC without granting him the authority and expecting him to decide about the teams starting QB ?

[HPF Bob]

I guess it's official. The Texans traded Brock Osweiler, the horse he road in on, two future horses just in case the first one breaks down from the weight of Osweiler's contract and, in return, the Texans receive a fig leaf of a third-day draft pick since it's against NFL rules to outright sell a player.

Hell of a deal, Rick. Come to think of it, wasn't this the same sort of deal that sent Matt Schaub out of town to Oakland? Just wasn't as lopsided. Maybe Rick has found his niche in this league. Now watch us overpay for Romo because, if we don't get him, who's next? Kaepernick? Cutler?

Rumor has it, the Browns think Ozzie can be flipped for another draft pick, shaving another $6 million or so off the amount write-off and add another warm body for the rebuild.

Some argued a second-rounder was too big a sacrifice for Houston but a) it's not until 2018 so the value is less than obvious and b) anyone who has tracked the Texans' record of second round picks knows Rick would have only screwed it up anyway. Assuming the Texans will be a better than .500 team this coming year, that pick is likely to be somewhere around #50 or lower.