Second Cut to 53 [Plus Practice Squad, Signed McClover]

[Keith]

My feed went out right as it started, but notable cuts I think I heard/saw...

Roosevelt Colvin
Shane Boyd
Alex Brink
Anthony Maddox
Glenn Earl
Kevis Coley
Darius Walker
Greg Eslinger
Jamar Fletcher
Derick Roberson
Mark Simmons
Torrin Tucker
Marcel Shipp
Dexter Wynn
Jesse Nading
Ben Moffitt
LeRon McCoy
Gabe Long
Ryan Krause
Darnell Jenkins
Jon Abbate


Chris Brown not cut apparently, but one cut to go. Have to wonder if they are renegotiating with him too.

[dadmg]

The Texan's website confirms Keith's 21.

[dadmg]

Given the comments in the press conference, as well as my thoughts, I'm guessing that these are the 8 we're hoping for on our PS, although we might have to get lucky on waiver wire claims for a few of these.

Projected PS
Darius Walker
Derrick Roberson
Jon Abbate
Ben Moffitt
Gabe Long
Kevis Coley
Shane Boyd/Alex Brink
Jesse Nading

There was also considerable mention of watching the waiver wires for RBs.

[Mike]

I am a little surprised we only kept 4 corners and cut Maddox. I think Kubes said Harrison might work outside some. We are light at corner and RB and heavy on the OL.

I would expect we pick up another back, release Brown. I think Smith and staff are pretty good about keeping an eye out for players who are going to become available.

[Arky]

From the chronic:

Coach Gary Kubiak said the team has one more move to make involving running back Chris Brown and his back injury.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5974029.html

Not quite sure what they're up to with Brown.

It's like last night's game had no meaning for some of these guys....

[kravix]

The biggest head scratchers for me.

Zgonina over Maddox, perhaps they think his work habbit and experience is better to have than a guy that would most likely be inactive for most of the season.

6 Tackles? Cliff Washburn who, maybe he is the bubble guy with C. Brown atm? I know they wanted Frye to play G, maybe they think he could play either in a pinch. That and Salaam and Butler are both injured atm.

Brown-- They may be trying to put him on IR, I never thought he made the team anyway.

Biggest issues going forward. Injured Salaam, Butler, C. Brown, Adibi, Thompson. Salaam is the only one that may not hit the IR. Light in the CB department until Dunta returns.

Key areas to expect trades or pickups. CB and LB.

Players I think have movement potential.

C. Brown (IR or cut)
Butler (IR)
Adibi (IR)
Thomson (IR)
Frye (cut)
Washburn (cut)
Zgonina (cut)

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Arky

It's like last night's game had no meaning for some of these guys....

Exactly. It never happened.

I think cutting Walker is a mistake. There will be some decent RBs cut by tomorrow though.

Props to Kalu for surviving as well as the other oldies... Ferguson, Zgonina.

I hate seeing Maddox cut. He's a football player. And raise your hand if you're surprised Faggins made the cut... not me. He's not CB2 quality, but I think I'd rather have him starting against the Steelers than Reeves or Molden.

[Mike]

I was glad to see Petey compete last night. He tackled and covered, even though it was against back-ups, you need to start to rebuild confidence somewhere.

I think Washburn is a canidate to be cut. We can't keep that many OL. I would have not relaeased maddox and kept a scrub OL.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Keith

Exactly. It never happened.

Was that a layup or what?

I think cutting Walker is a mistake. There will be some decent RBs cut by tomorrow though.

I think so, too. Does anyone think Ahman Green is going to make it through the season much less the first quarter of the Pittsburgh game? Slaton's turf toe could get worse at some point also.... Taylor? Unproven over a full season.

McClain, on the radio just now, didn't mention Walker as one of the possible PS guys.... If that turns out to be the case, then I hope for DW's sake that someone picks him up and he has success elsewhere....

Sounds like they may be cruising the waiver wire for another RB but anybody they bring in won't be familiar with the system. Whatevar...

[jaimeg]

Originally Posted by Mike

I was glad to see Petey compete last night. He tackled and covered, even though it was against back-ups, you need to start to rebuild confidence somewhere.

I think Washburn is a canidate to be cut. We can't keep that many OL. I would have not relaeased maddox and kept a scrub OL.

Totally agree, this maybe be the game that gets his confidence going and be the player we thought he would be (like the game against the Colts a few years back).


I am totally pissed we didn't cut C. Brown.

[texan]

Anyone else find it odd that Bulman is still listed on the roster and depth chart at the official site.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by kravix

The biggest head scratchers for me.

Zgonina over Maddox, perhaps they think his work habbit and experience is better to have than a guy that would most likely be inactive for most of the season.

6 Tackles? Cliff Washburn who, maybe he is the bubble guy with C. Brown atm? I know they wanted Frye to play G, maybe they think he could play either in a pinch. That and Salaam and Butler are both injured atm.

Brown-- They may be trying to put him on IR, I never thought he made the team anyway.

Biggest issues going forward. Injured Salaam, Butler, C. Brown, Adibi, Thompson. Salaam is the only one that may not hit the IR. Light in the CB department until Dunta returns.

Key areas to expect trades or pickups. CB and LB.

Players I think have movement potential.

C. Brown (IR or cut)
Butler (IR)
Adibi (IR)
Thomson (IR)
Frye (cut)
Washburn (cut)
Zgonina (cut)

Zgonina looks like a guy you cut, but he plays on every special teams, he is a backup long snapper if i remember correctly, he is Rick Smith's college roommate, blah blah blah.

Chris Brown will either be PUP or cut, I think that is the investigation.

Washburn is gone as soon as Salaam and or Butler get back healthy.

Also I have a feeling they are going to look real hard at Adibi for the IR.

Lastly listening to Smith, they are going to pick up a RB, and it might be Walker, but it might be some one on another team currently. Watch out for WCO RBs that are cut.

[kravix]

Originally Posted by texan

Anyone else find it odd that Bulman is still listed on the roster and depth chart at the official site.

He didnt get cut.

[jaimeg]

Although I am pissed we didn't cut Brown, I don't think we can because he's injured. How does that rule work?

[Warren]

Originally Posted by jaimeg

Although I am pissed we didn't cut Brown, I don't think we can because he's injured. How does that rule work?

The way that I understand it is that before a team can cut an injured player, they have to negotiate an injury settlement based on how many weeks the player is expected to be unable to play. For example, if the team and the player agree that he'll be out six weeks, the team owes him six weeks of salary. The player can then sign with another team, but can't re-sign with the team that cut him until after the time covered by the injury settlement (six weeks in the example). If they can't agree on a settlement, I don't believe the team has any option other than putting him on IR where he doesn't count against the roster but still gets paid for the whole season.

[jppaul]

I am little shocked that we cut Maddox, and Fletcher.

[Keith]

Chris Brown sent to IR.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5975236.html

I sorta buried this in a rant I had about Reeves sucking, but when a team blows as many UFA signings (those for more than the vet min) as this team has, then someone in the pro scouting department needs to go.

That someone is probably Bobby Grier, the associate director of pro scouting, the man responsible for pro scouting with the Texans since the beginning (and the man with the Pats before they started winning Super Bowls).

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

Chris Brown sent to IR.

That someone is probably Bobby Grier, the associate director of pro scouting, the man responsible for pro scouting with the Texans since the beginning (and the man with the Pats before they started winning Super Bowls).

I agree with you on this one. Time for some new blood, Alonzo Highsmith anyone? He is a college guy currently but why not a pro guy.

[kravix]

Originally Posted by Keith

Chris Brown sent to IR.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5975236.html

I sorta buried this in a rant I had about Reeves sucking, but when a team blows as many UFA signings (those for more than the vet min) as this team has, then someone in the pro scouting department needs to go.

That someone is probably Bobby Grier, the associate director of pro scouting, the man responsible for pro scouting with the Texans since the beginning (and the man with the Pats before they started winning Super Bowls).

I agree sorta. He brought us some badly needed players over the last few years when we had injuries. How much of that was him and how much was Rick or Kubes.. No idea.

Flannagan and Green were Sherman picks, and he may not have had much to do with it. The other Denver prospects were Kubes and Smith.

His track record before Smith got here sucks though.

I havent seen Reeves play a real snap so I will hold judgement until the end of the 4th game.

[nunusguy]

Chris Brown has been put on IR. Why not just cut him, unless its too difficult or impractical for the Texans to work out some kind of injury settlement with him for a release ?