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Old 05-22-2008, 05:19 PM
HPF Bob HPF Bob is offline
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Default Would You Give A 3rd Rounder For Jason Taylor?

Now that the Dolphins have pretty much declared Jason Taylor on the trading block, would you part with a third to bring him to Houston?

I would. I think he would be the edge rusher we keep hearing that we need. He's going to force opponents to account for him which will improve the games of Mario, Amobi and DeMeco. We could wind up with a D-line that will absolutely dominate up front which will mean better production from our porous secondary.

Yes, Taylor will be expensive and he may be on a bit of decline but I think he's going to disrupt a lot of pass plays and force more single blocking schemes for Mario and the others.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:13 PM
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If I truly thought we where the 1st or 2nd best team in our division, and that we had a chance to go deep into the playoffs this year or next, then I would pull that trigger.

But we are currently 3rd or 4th in our division, and we have some other holes to plug before we are being talked about as a top AFC team, none bigger than this one granted.

Indy, NE, San Diego and Jacksonville are the current class of our conference. Jacksonville should have made the move for Taylor.

And I think we need that 3rd pick to play for us for the next 7 years, not the next couple.

Just my opinion.
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:15 AM
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Wanted to add, seems a few teams are interested in giving up a 4th, if you believe the reports on ESPN. There has been some talk also of conditional 3rds.

I have to agree with Bob, adding Taylor would give us our best DL to date, and a potential top 5 DL, maybe even top 3.

I still want to build for the long haul future, choosing to avoid the Drayton McClain practice of going for the short term big name, while selling off the future.
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:28 AM
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I say we should definitely give a third rounder if that's all it takes to get Jason Taylor. He'd be a great mentor to Mario and having those two guys on the edge would be murder for any ppposing OL and QB. Have DeMeco back that line up and it'll just be filthy defense.

And hey, third in THIS division proved to be good enough to get a wild card spot in the playoffs last year. Wouldn't happen every year but I think that could be a move that would push us towards 10, 11 wins.

Of course, that'd just be me being optimistic.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:25 AM
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no

eric winston, charles spencer, steve slaton, antwaun molden, jacoby jones. did i miss any of them? kubiak is TOO good with his 3rd round picks.

jason taylor is the prototypical "we need one more veteran guy on our defensive line for a championship caliber defense" and we would need him, a LB and a Safety or two to have that. let him dance elsewhere!

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Old 05-23-2008, 08:22 AM
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Jason Taylor is not the same player anymore. Of course he is still one of the best ends in league. He's been very durable for most of his career, but he also definitely has plans for after football. I don't see him playing for more than a couple of years....and its possible he could have a big decline in his play during that time.

I would love to have someone like him around for Mario....I just wouldn't want to lose a third round pick for him at this stage in hi career. I think the Dolphins screwed up by not moving him before or during the draft. Teams would have been more likely to deal then. Now the Dolphins are in the situation of HAVING to trade him....or risk having a very bad situation drag out over the whole season.

I would be happy if we got him....I would just prefer it if we did for a fourth round pick or later. Even fourth round picks can be very important to the long term "health" of a team.
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:29 AM
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eric winston, charles spencer, steve slaton, antwaun molden, jacoby jones. did i miss any of them? kubiak is TOO good with his 3rd round picks.
I see one starter, one guy who played two games (although I am not arguing about what could have been), one guy who we still know little about after a rookie campaign, and two guys who haven't even signed their rookie contracts yet. There could be 5 future Pro-Bowlers there, or there could be 4 guys who are off the team in 2-3 years just like Taylor would be.

Kubes and Smith are doing a tremendous job of finding talent through both the draft and FA, but let's not go overboard giving guys credit who haven't done anything yet.

As far as the trade goes, I think I'd do the 3rd rounder for Taylor, and I'd definitely do the 4th rounder. Not just for the talent, but for the presence he'd bring. The guys who are the core of our defense are all very young - Dunta's the veteran of the group, and he's only played 4 years. Taylor could help even after he's gone by leaving a legacy. Plus, after being dissed by the Fins, he ought to feel he's got something to prove at his next (and likely final) stop.
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