Owen Daniels Contract Negotiations

Keith · #1 04-08-2009, 10:47 AM

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In fact Texans General Manager Rick Smith made contact Tuesday with Daniels representatives.

"Rick reached out to me and and (agent) Dave (Butz) and my sense is the Texans are going to try and get something done," said Alan Herman, one of Daniels' agents.

"Whether we can remains to be seen."

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/spor...exans_contract

Other quotes from Owen Daniels in the article:

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"Honestly I would probably be a little upset," Daniels said prior to the team's conditioning workouts. "I think I've earned something. I've earned more than a one-year situation here.

"A lot of the guys have been working hard, getting three and four-year deals around here. So I'm happy for them and I think I should be in the same boat." ...

"I can't lie and say it's something that wasn't thrown around between me and my agent," Daniels said. "I thought it was the best thing for me just to come out here and work and be with the guys and show what I'm here for.

"It's not in my personality to not come out here. I love being around the guys." ...
"Guys try to play well in this league and try to earn their keep, earn some security on a team and be there for awhile," Daniels said.

"I think I've tried to do that. I would love to be here. So if they can do that, it would be the best thing for both sides."

More from McClain.

da Bull · #2 04-08-2009, 11:44 AM

Well I guess this begs the question of what positions are the most critical? Also, along those same lines, what players in those positions are the most critical to overall team success?

New England for example has been very successful for a number of years. But they always appear to have a defensive back who becomes a high priced free agent every year. On the other hand, quarterback would seem to be the most critical and yet they had a very good year with an unknown backup.

I guess what I'm getting at here is that you can't pay every position the high salaries, so which ones do you target? And, which do you let walk even though the player is extremely popular with the fan base?

papabear · #3 04-08-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by da Bull

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I guess what I'm getting at here is that you can't pay every position the high salaries, so which ones do you target? And, which do you let walk even though the player is extremely popular with the fan base?

The problem with that is trying to figure out if the 3rd best tight end in the league is worth more than the 20th best CB? CB's are generally regarded as more valuable than TE's, but if I had to pick between the two I'm probably taking a pro-bowler over an average starter the majority of the time.

Fan popularity really shouldn't come into play in most cases even though I'm sure it plays a part occasionally. It's hard to compare apples to oranges, but you have to decide how valuable that PLAYER is to your franchise. In the case of Daniels, I think he plays a vital role in our offense.

Mike · #4 04-08-2009, 01:02 PM

I think OD did the right thing by coming in for the voluntary camp. I think that buys him some good PR. While that only means so much, I think that helps.

Rick Smith has to start somewhere with negotiations, I wonder if getting OD done is the easiest of the three and then he can work on the other two.

I saw a snippet on rotoworld last night that the agents for Demeco have also been contacted recently by the GM. If I can get the link, I'll paste it.

I agree with Papa, OD is really important to this offense. Even if he does not make the catch, he puts pressure on the defense.

Nconroe · #5 04-08-2009, 01:17 PM

Yeah, poor OD will only make 2.9mil if he doesn't get a new deal. Demeco is the one who is relatively underpaid for now. I think all the salaries are too high and so are ticket prices, for average fan anyways. I think TE is important to our attack, not sure if it is OD or the position, some of both.

It is tough to be fair to all the guys who have four-five year deals, they wanted the security, and then salries go up , it puts everyone in a tough spot relatively speaking. And you have to keep total under a cap, which is good.

Philadelphia, Boston, Indianapolis , probably others, have to let some good veterans go every year it seems due to this problem, and they rebuild well enough it looks like.

Mike · #6 04-08-2009, 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=Nconroe;10104]Yeah, poor OD will only make 2.9mil if he doesn't get a new deal. Demeco is the one who is relatively underpaid for now. I think all the salaries are too high and so are ticket prices, for average fan anyways. I think TE is important to our attack, not sure if it is OD or the position, some of both.

That is irrevelant if you think salaries and ticket prices are to high. We are worth exactly what someone is willing to pay. You cannot just plug in another TE and have OD's production.

We are not good enough to let our good players leave without compensation.

papabear · #7 04-08-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I saw a snippet on rotoworld last night that the agents for Demeco have also been contacted recently by the GM. If I can get the link, I'll paste it.

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I saw that Ryans fired his agent and is looking for a new one...I'll look for confirmation on that too.

papabear · #8 04-08-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by papabear

I saw that Ryans fired his agent and is looking for a new one...I'll look for confirmation on that too.

yep...

from McClain:

http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/2009/04/a...a_cat_who.html

da Bull · #9 04-08-2009, 01:14 PM

After thinking about it some more, to me, it comes back to what positions become "plug and play" positions. You have to generate a out/in pipeline at point in time.

I think at this point, the offense could operate more effectively without Daniels than the defense could without Ryans. But hopefully at some point in the future it becomes a wash, not saying that I want either one to walk. Just that you have to be able to pay the Andre Johnson and Mario Williamses, because both make their side of the ball go, more so than either Daniels or Ryans, respectively.

kravix · #10 04-12-2009, 11:15 PM

Does it matter that OD is technically the 3rd QB on the roster on game day and he knows it?

There was a snippet last season, maybe the one before, where OD talked about Kubiak telling him that if Sage went down he was taking the snaps.

I know he doesnt take any practice snaps, not that we see anyway, but that doesnt mean that he and the team dont know who is comming in.

I am actually pretty suprised we havent seen any trick plays with OD given his QB background.