10 vs. 40

[Roy P]

The Combine's most notorious event is the 40 yard dash. However, I thought I'd share some times in the 10 yard split.

WR Mike Wallace - 1.43
RB Kory Sheets - 1.44
FS Chris Clemons - 1.44
WR Mike Thomas - 1.44
WR Darrius Heward-Bey - 1.44
WR Johnny Knox - 1.47
RB Andre Brown - 1.47
RB Cedric Peerman - 1.47
WR Percy Harvin - 1.47
CB Vontae Davis - 1.47
CB Malcolm Jenkins - 1.47
LB Gerald McGrath - 1.48
S Chip Vaughn - 1.48
S C.J. Spillman - 1.49
S William Moore - 1.49
S Patrick Chung - 1.49
LB Clay Matthews - 1.49
TE Shawn Nelson - 1.50
RB Donald Brown - 1.50
LB Stephen Hodge - 1.53
QB Stephen McGee - 1.53
DE Lawrence Sidbury - 1.53
LB Aaron Curry - 1.53

While I expected WRs and CBs to get off the line in a hurry, I'm impressed by LBs, RBs, and TEs who run a sub 1.5 in the 10 yard split. I'm not trying to say that every guy on this list is going to the Pro-Bowl, but it may explain why Tom Coughlin only times guys at Indy at the 10 yard line. Also, Stephen McGee is making me think that I need to put him above JP Wilson.

[Roy P]

Just to take it one step forward. The Cone drill is also something to take a look at. The fastest Cone drill was by Malcolm Jenkins at 6.59.

I don't want to list all of the WRs and DBs, but some of the bigger guys.

S/LB William Moore - 6.84
TE John Phillips - 6.84
RB Knowshon Moreno - 6.84
LB Brian Cushing - 6.84
LB Aaron Curry - 6.84
RB Rashad Jennings - 6.86
DE Connor Barwin - 6.87
LB Clay Matthews - 6.90
RB Ian Johnson - 6.92
RB Donald Brown - 6.93
LB James Laurinitis - 6.93
TE Shawn Nelson - 6.96
RB Cedric Peerman - 6.99

I can't help but think that Clay is moving up boards in draft rooms.

[edo783]

15th for Clay may wind up being spot on for him.

[papabear]

I still have a fascination with Sidbury as an edge rusher if he can be had in the later rounds. That 10 yard split only adds to it.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Roy P

the 10 yard split.

WR Mike Thomas - 1.44
RB Andre Brown - 1.47
RB Cedric Peerman - 1.47
RB Donald Brown - 1.50

Originally Posted by Roy P

Cone drill

RB Knowshon Moreno - 6.84
RB Donald Brown - 6.93
RB Cedric Peerman - 6.99

Hate the 40, love the 10, cone, and short shuttle. No surprise then that I like Donald Brown if we can get him somewhere decent in the draft (he also had amazing vertical and shuttle #s). I seem to recall Mike Thomas having a really nice cone or shuttle # too. He has that stubby build and quickness (plus some hands) that I think could really translate. Cedric Peerman's combine was simply impressive, and he has the perfect NFL RB build, imo... compact and low to the ground. Surprised we haven't heard more about his stock climbing. Not a big Andre Brown fan though. Seems a bit slow to the hole in spite of the 10 time. Just something not natural about the way he runs, I dunno.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Keith

Hate the 40, love the 10, cone, and short shuttle.

OK, I'll post the Shuttle times. The fastest was CB Kevin Barnes of Maryland at 3.96! Not a surprise to see fast CBs and WRs, so for the sake of brevity, I'm only showing what I think is noteworthy.

RB Donald Brown - 4.10
RB Javon Ringer - 4.11
S Chip Vaughn - 4.12
LB Marcus Freeman - 4.12
S Sean Smith - 4.15
S Courtney Greene - 4.16
S Darcel McBath - 4.16
S Louis Delmas - 4.17
RB Ian Johnson - 4.18
LB Clay Matthews - 4.18
LB Connor Barwin - 4.18
RB Rashad Jennings - 4.20
LB Brian Cushing - 4.22
S Rashad Johnson - 4.23
LB Dannel Ellerbe - 4.23
LB James Laurinaits - 4.24
S William Moore - 4.26
RB Knowshon Moreno - 4.27
RB Cedric Peerman - 4.29

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by edo783

15th for Clay may wind up being spot on for him.

I'm starting to get nervous about this. Remember Dom Capers moved up for Jason Babin. Looking at who is drafting at #9-#13, we may be lucky if Matthews is still on the board.

9. Green Bay
10. San Francisco
11. Buffalo
12. Denver
13. Washington

Then, New Orleans picks at #14, and they'll probably steal Vontae Davis away from me.

At this rate, Ziggy Hood may just be our 1st round pick.

Speaking of Ziggy, take a look.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f33559

[James]

If someone moves up for Matthews then someone else probably better drops to us . . .

[popanot]

If we're going DL, I'm warming up to Robert Ayers. I think he'd make a great bookend to Mario. I'd go for someone like Will Johnson in the later rounds if we want DT. I don't think I can take another year of drafting DT with our #1.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I thought I'd share some times in the 10 yard split.


RB Andre Brown - 1.47
CB Vontae Davis - 1.47
CB Malcolm Jenkins - 1.47
LB Gerald McGrath - 1.48
S Chip Vaughn - 1.48
S C.J. Spillman - 1.49
S William Moore - 1.49
S Patrick Chung - 1.49
LB Clay Matthews - 1.49
DE Lawrence Sidbury - 1.53
LB Aaron Curry - 1.53

It looks like I'm not the only guy talking about the 10 yard splits....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns


There's also discussion about armlength for OTs.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns


“Great” arm length (35-plus inches)
D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Jets: 35½ inches (2006)
Ryan Clady, Broncos: 36 inches (2008)


“Good” arm length (34-34 7/8 inches)
Jammal Brown, Saints: 34¼ inches (2005)
Jeff Otah, Panthers: 34 5/8 inches (2008)


“Average” arm length (33-33 7/8 inches)
Michael Roos, Titans: 33 5/8 inches (2005)
Levi Brown, Cardinals: 33 1/8 inches (2007)


“Below average” arm length (32-32 7/8 inches)
Robert Gallery, Raiders: 32¼ inches (2004)
Chris Williams, Bears: 32¾ inches (2008)

Andre Smith, Alabama (6-4, 332), arm length: 35 5/8 inches
William Beatty, Connecticut (6-6, 307), arm length: 34¾ inches
Eugene Monroe, Virginia (6-5, 309), arm length: 34 inches
Jason Smith, Baylor (6-5, 309), arm length: 33¾ inches
Michael Oher, Mississippi (6-5, 309), arm length: 33½ inches
Eben Britton, Arizona (6-6, 309), arm length: 32½ inches