Jaguars Offense vs. Texans Offense [Split Thread]

[popanot]

Originally Posted by chuck

We're talking about the Jaguars here, dude. Let's remain realistic.

I don't think the Hags will be whipping boys for much longer. That is, unless they totally unravel. I'd trade our current offensive players for theirs if given the opportunity. If their O keeps growing and they sure up that D, I think they'll be pretty darn good. Definitely contenders in the division, which as you know currently stinks.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by popanot

I don't think the Hags will be whipping boys for much longer. That is, unless they totally unravel. I'd trade our current offensive players for theirs if given the opportunity. If their O keeps growing and they sure up that D, I think they'll be pretty darn good. Definitely contenders in the division, which as you know currently stinks.

They stink. They played a very easy schedule and went 5-10. They didn't beat a good team all year. The Colts and Texans played half their seasons with backup QBs and the Jags still couldn't be relevant in December. They are closer to the #1 overall draft pick than they are to the AFC south title. There is no dressing it up, the Jags are really bad.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by barrett

They stink. They played a very easy schedule and went 5-10. They didn't beat a good team all year. The Colts and Texans played half their seasons with backup QBs and the Jags still couldn't be relevant in December. They are closer to the #1 overall draft pick than they are to the AFC south title. There is no dressing it up, the Jags are really bad.

The whole AFCS stinks. So what? I'd still take their WRs, TE, RBs, and QB over ours. I'll keep our D. Yes, the Hags currently stink. I never said they were great (right now). I said they have a pretty good core (especially on offense) and could be pretty good in the near future.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by popanot

The whole AFCS stinks. So what? I'd still take their WRs, TE, RBs, and QB over ours. I'll keep our D. Yes, the Hags currently stink. I never said they were great (right now). I said they have a pretty good core (especially on offense) and could be pretty good in the near future.

Again, they are closer to the #1 overall pick than they are to the Hoyer/Mallett/Yates/Weeden led Texans. That core is going to get Gus Bradley fired next year.

[popanot]

Originally Posted by barrett

Again, they are closer to the #1 overall pick than they are to the Hoyer/Mallett/Yates/Weeden led Texans. That core is going to get Gus Bradley fired next year.

Maybe Bradley will get fired. Maybe Bradley has a little something to do with their record this year and last year. Regardless of record, reason, draft position or anything the Texans are doing, I'd still trade our offensive players for thier offensive players without hesitation.

EDIT: I already know you don't like Bortles (even though I can't imagine you wouldn't trade any of our QBs straight up for him), but other than Hopkins, who would you rather have on the Texans over the Jags offensive players? I'd trade Hopkins/Washington/Shorts/Strong for Allen/Hurns/Greene. I'd trade any and all of our TE's for Thomas. I'd trade an aging Foster and a crap lineup of Blue/Polk/Grimes for Yeldon/Robinson. I haven't paid much attention to the Jags OL, but I know their OL is younger than ours so I'd take a chance on them and our staff coaching them up over keeping an aging Brown and any of our other OL.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by popanot

Maybe Bradley will get fired. Maybe Bradley has a little something to do with their record this year and last year. Regardless of record, reason, draft position or anything the Texans are doing, I'd still trade our offensive players for thier offensive players without hesitation.

EDIT: I already know you don't like Bortles (even though I can't imagine you wouldn't trade any of our QBs straight up for him), but other than Hopkins, who would you rather have on the Texans over the Jags offensive players? I'd trade Hopkins/Washington/Shorts/Strong for Allen/Hurns/Greene. I'd trade any and all of our TE's for Thomas. I'd trade an aging Foster and a crap lineup of Blue/Polk/Grimes for Yeldon/Robinson. I haven't paid much attention to the Jags OL, but I know their OL is younger than ours so I'd take a chance on them and our staff coaching them up over keeping an aging Brown and any of our other OL.

Their OL is garbage. Their top pick of a few years ago has been a huge bust (Joekel). I wouldn't trade Hopkins for the whole of their skill guys added up. Yeldon is no different than our crappy backs except he was drafted higher and is paid more because of it.

On a bad team that is losing the whole time somebody is going to get offensive stats. It doesn't mean those guys are good. I don't like Bortles, but he is their most valuable offensive piece.