Getting Closer to Draft Weekend Mock

[painekiller]

Upfront I want to apologize on the All Caps on the mock, I'm to lazy to retype the names.

This is an OnTheClock mock

23: R1P23 TE TJ HOCKENSON IOWA
All the OT and CB were gone with 1st round talent in the Mock. This kid is supposed to be a blocking beast, a plus route runner. Top rated TE in the draft at 23.

54: R2P22 CB JOEJUAN WILLIAMS VANDERBILT
6'4" CB, not a supper fast guy, but he has played against elite talent. Is a press coverage guy, very disruptive at all levels. Needs work, should be a solid #2 CB. Very Smart.

55: R2P23 OT GREG LITTLE OLE MISS
Lance Zierlein compared him to Duane Brown coming out. Started all 3 season he was at Mississippi. Junior tackle, played against elite talent, will learn from play to play. Smart guy.

86: R3P22 OT MAX SCHARPING NORTHERN ILLINOIS
6'6" monster of a man. Can handle bull rush, but needs to improve his feet. Right Tackle prospect. Team player, went back for senior season to win MAC championship and they did. Ivy league recruited him hard, so another smart guy. Once he adjust to NFL, should start a long time. played both sides in games, so could swing if needed.

143: R5P5 RB BRYCE LOVE STANFORD
Gave up 2020 4th round pick, to trade with the Giants to grab Love. Like Bob I really like this kid. Is projected to be ready for training camp, but I gave a future pick for a future player.

161: R5P23 WR HUNTER RENFROW CLEMSON
Again Bob and I like the same player. Renfrow has good chemistry with D4, and why not have another Clemson player here. Quicker than fast, and would be good insurance for Coutee.

195: R6P22 CB JIMMY MORELAND JAMES MADISON
Small CB, but will play in the hip pocket. needs works to adjust, but willing to take a chance, and when he picks the ball off he is trying to score. Also has some character flags, so Texans may not go here.

220: R7P6 G DEION CALHOUN MISS. STATE
Smallish height wise, but with long arms. determined blocker. Another SEC guy in the trench.

[bikerack]

Here is the one I just did...made one small trade (moving further back in the 3rd to pick up a 4th).

23: R1P23 DL RASHAN GARY MICHIGAN - BPA. He's consistently ranked in the top 10 prospects for the draft and I wasn't going to pass him up. He can play both interior and edge DL.

54: R2P22 OT GREG LITTLE OLE MISS - Turns out passing on OL and CB in the 1st doesn't hurt too much this time. I also agree that Little's college experience in the SEC is a plus.

55: R2P23 CB TRAYVON MULLEN CLEMSON - One of the 2nd tier CBs from a top program lasts until the end of the 2nd.

93: R3P29 S TAYLOR RAPP WASHINGTON - Very versatile safety. UW utilized him all over the field.

105: R4P3 RB DARRELL HENDERSON MEMPHIS - Unless it is all smoke, the Texans haven't been hiding the fact that they are interested in drafting a RB. They've also met with Henderson a couple of times.

161: R5P23 G BEN POWERS OKLAHOMA - Best OG available at this point in the mock. 6'4" and 315+

195: R6P22 WR HUNTER RENFROW CLEMSON - like everyone else, I like him

220: R7P6 CB IMAN MARSHALL USC - best DB available but insert whoever would make the best special teamer here.


The trade...

TRADE PARTNER:

NEW YORK JETS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 29
ROUND: 4 PICK: 3

[HPF Bob]

I used the newly-published "On the Clock Composite" board. I can seemingly always trade down from 2-23 to 2-26 and pick up Dallas' 4-26 which gives us a choice in every round. Otherwise, I made no trades:

23: R1P23 OT CODY FORD, OKLAHOMA

I actually had a wealth of OL choices, which is unusual. Even though Andre Dillard is my OT preference, I chose Cody Ford because he has LT potential but is more versatile.

54: R2P22 OT KALEB MCGARY, WASHINGTON

McGary is a LT prospect who has been sneaking into the bottom of the first round in some mocks. Either way, the LT issue should now be considered resolved.

58: R2P26 CB JUSTIN LAYNE, MICHIGAN ST.

JoeJuan was still available but I like Layne better.

86: R3P22 TE JACE STERNBERGER, TEXAS A&M

Sternberger has deep-middle potential. I was disappointed with the choices here.

128: R4P26 WR HUNTER RENFROW, CLEMSON

No need to go over this again.

161: R5P23 RB MYLES GASKIN, WASHINGTON

I felt safe when the fifth round started but there was a "run" and I missed out on Love and my other choice, Benny Snell. Gaskin was the last guy I like at that point.

195: R6P22 LB JOSIAH TAUAEFA, UT-SAN ANTONIO

All-around athlete who should be great at special teams, if nothing else.

220: R7P6 DL RICKY WALKER, VIRGINIA TECH

Finally, some added beef for the d-line.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

23: R1P23 OT CODY FORD, OKLAHOMA

I actually had a wealth of OL choices, which is unusual. Even though Andre Dillard is my OT preference, I chose Cody Ford because he has LT potential but is more versatile.
A solid OL prospect that should be a long term starter, but I see him as more of a OG. Now the Texans could use a couple of studs in the middle, and Ford and Ranking on paper look like fixes for both guards. and I think you might have fixed the OLT with your next pick
54: R2P22 OT KALEB MCGARY, WASHINGTON

McGary is a LT prospect who has been sneaking into the bottom of the first round in some mocks. Either way, the LT issue should now be considered resolved.

58: R2P26 CB JUSTIN LAYNE, MICHIGAN ST.

JoeJuan was still available but I like Layne better.
i do not think I am the DB expert, so I'm game for anyone who is an upgrade.

161: R5P23 RB MYLES GASKIN, WASHINGTON

I felt safe when the fifth round started but there was a "run" and I missed out on Love and my other choice, Benny Snell. Gaskin was the last guy I like at that point. That is why I tend to take Love before the 5th round, I don't see him making it to the Texans 5th round pick. Then I worry I need a healthy body to fill in.

I like seeing the different options.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Upfront I want to apologize on the All Caps on the mock, I'm to lazy to retype the names.

This is an OnTheClock mock

23: R1P23 TE TJ HOCKENSON IOWA
All the OT and CB were gone with 1st round talent in the Mock. This kid is supposed to be a blocking beast, a plus route runner. Top rated TE in the draft at 23.

54: R2P22 CB JOEJUAN WILLIAMS VANDERBILT
6'4" CB, not a supper fast guy, but he has played against elite talent. Is a press coverage guy, very disruptive at all levels. Needs work, should be a solid #2 CB. Very Smart.

55: R2P23 OT GREG LITTLE OLE MISS
Lance Zierlein compared him to Duane Brown coming out. Started all 3 season he was at Mississippi. Junior tackle, played against elite talent, will learn from play to play. Smart guy.

86: R3P22 OT MAX SCHARPING NORTHERN ILLINOIS
6'6" monster of a man. Can handle bull rush, but needs to improve his feet. Right Tackle prospect. Team player, went back for senior season to win MAC championship and they did. Ivy league recruited him hard, so another smart guy. Once he adjust to NFL, should start a long time. played both sides in games, so could swing if needed.

143: R5P5 RB BRYCE LOVE STANFORD
Gave up 2020 4th round pick, to trade with the Giants to grab Love. Like Bob I really like this kid. Is projected to be ready for training camp, but I gave a future pick for a future player.

161: R5P23 WR HUNTER RENFROW CLEMSON
Again Bob and I like the same player. Renfrow has good chemistry with D4, and why not have another Clemson player here. Quicker than fast, and would be good insurance for Coutee.

195: R6P22 CB JIMMY MORELAND JAMES MADISON
Small CB, but will play in the hip pocket. needs works to adjust, but willing to take a chance, and when he picks the ball off he is trying to score. Also has some character flags, so Texans may not go here.

220: R7P6 G DEION CALHOUN MISS. STATE
Smallish height wise, but with long arms. determined blocker. Another SEC guy in the trench.

LT is the teams single biggest need so if you think Greg Little is your long-term solution to protect Watsons blind side then why not just take him at 23 in the first round and not try to get cute with it when somebody else could grab him well before you had the opportunity to use your second round pick.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

LT is the teams single biggest need so if you think Greg Little is your long-term solution to protect Watsons blind side then why not just take him at 23 in the first round and not try to get cute with it when somebody else could grab him well before you had the opportunity to use your second round pick.

Fair point. In this mock I was trying to go best player available based on needs. The TE was off the chart the BPA, similar to Reed last season. According to the list I was using Little was a reach where I took him. Some of the guys making these lists have no clue about a lot of these guys.

And I will admit to it today, I liked Duane Brown as a 3rd or 4th round pick. I was not happy when they took him in the 1st, and I admit I was wrong. He might of been the best OT in his class in hind sight.

And lastly how I look at the mocks, can I take a not OLT or CB at 23, and still get talent later. I like to hear the guys that are here and their different opinions on the player. Don't think I love every player I select in these mocks, especially late in the draft.

As to what I want the team to do is get the middle OL strong, so D4 can step up, and I think Bob's mock does that best.

[HPF Bob]

Duane Brown was the Kaleb McGary of this year's draft. There were (iirc) five OTs taken before Brown and he was expected to be a mid-to-low second-rounder but when it got to Houston's pick, he was the best OT left on the board and the only one they thought could handle the LT position in the WCO. So they "reached" and, thank goodness, he panned out.

McGary was regarded as a mid-round pick but he graded out well at the combine and now gets taken in the early second and sometimes low first in the mocks I see. It's not unusual to "overpay" for QBs, LTs and CBs in the draft. Sometimes you reach and get Duane Brown. Sometimes you reach and get Paxton Lynch. Sometimes you reach and get Kevin Johnson.

[HPF Bob]

I was set to draft Cody Ford at 1/23 when I was hit with a trade offer by the Evil Patriots. It was too good to pass up:

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 24
ROUND: 2 PICK: 32
ROUND: 3 PICK: 33
ROUND: 3 PICK: 37

That gave me no first but four seconds and three thirds. So I traded back up to get the best OT on the board.

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 2 PICK: 32

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1

and then I did my standard deal with Dallas to pick up a fourth.

TRADE PARTNER:
DALLAS COWBOYS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 23

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 26

Now I have three picks in the second, three in the third and one in every round afterward. With this, I had the luxury of reaching for some players I wanted earlier than I think they'll fall. The results:

33: R2P1 OT KALEB MCGARY, WASHINGTON

Yodny Cajuste was also available but McGary seems to have passed him.

56: R2P24 CB TRAYVON MULLEN, CLEMSON

His stock seems to be sliding but I still think he's just below the first tier.

58: R2P26 G MICHAEL DEITER, WISCONSIN

Between McGary and Deiter, the OL gets a big boost.

86: R3P22 TE JACE STERNBERGER, TEXAS A&M

Could be better as a pro than he was at A&M.

97: R3P33 CB ISAIAH JOHNSON, HOUSTON

Local kid who will give us, along with Mullen, two chances to find an eventual replacement for JJo.

101: R3P37 RB BENNY SNELL, KENTUCKY

Can be a three-down back in the pros. Blew me away with his bowl game.

128: R4P26 WR HUNTER RENFROW, CLEMSON

No need to explain this again.

161: R5P23 DL GREG GAINES, WASHINGTON

I missed out on Daylon Mack but Gaines is another run-plugger for the d-line.

195: R6P22 LB GARY JOHNSON, TEXAS

Smallish LB but very active and packs a punch.

220: R7P6 S ANDREW WINGARD, WYOMING

Typically doesn't fall this far in mocks. We have Hal, Reid and Gipson so safety isn't the priority it was earlier.

Thoughts? Was the trade down out of the first worth it?

[chuck]

Andre Hal retired suddenly this week so that may affect the team's perception of need.