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Old 04-23-2010, 07:13 PM
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Default RB Ben Tate, Round 2, #58 Overall

Texans move down from #51 to #62 and add #93 from the Vikings.

Then they move back up to #58 and give up #150 (5th round) to the Patriots to select the downhill runner from Auburn, Ben Tate.
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:21 PM
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Big Texas welcome to our newest RB, Ben Tate.
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:33 PM
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Perfect moves by Rick Smith. He drops down to grab an extra third, but then jumps ahead of some RB hungry teams with our 5th. You know other teams had him on their radar, when Cleveland jumps up right behind us to get Montario Hardesty. My guess is that they had Tate and Hardesty on their board as a must get.

I didn't realize he ran a 4.43 at the combine (though Kiper said it was a 4.34--ooops) Here's some video: Ben Tate Highlights
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Old 04-23-2010, 07:42 PM
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My favorite RB in the draft. Great pick. The best pick since I've been following the Texans.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:03 PM
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Interesting article if you have an ESPN Insider account - - talks about the sort of size/speed number combos that caught my eye on Tate (and similar to Roy P's explosion #s too.)

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Football Outsiders has been using the "speed score" as a metric since 1999; here's an explanation relative to the 2008 NFL draft and here are the 2009 results. What follows regards the 2010 NFL scouting combine.

The difference between a 40-yard dash time of 4.37 seconds and 4.43 seconds is 60 milliseconds -- just about half the time it takes the human eye to blink. To most people, it's imperceptible.

So why should people care about the difference between the respective 40 times of projected first-round pick C.J. Spiller and midround prospect Ben Tate?

Because of a historically effective metric suggesting that Tate might end up the better pro back.

That metric is called "speed score"; it takes two inputs from the combine. One is the 40-yard dash time, but the other one is more subtle: a player's weight. ...
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...ory?id=4956769
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:24 PM
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Video of Tate getting "the call" and seeing his name called.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video....5962718&ref=mf

NFLFilms also has a woman taking video in the room, so maybe he'll be featured on something they produce later?
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:35 PM
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I just hope he can make the one-cut that the ZBS demands and that he has the vision to see the hole open. The clips I saw on ESPN showed a little wiggle and yet a lot of the words I'm hearing say that isn't his game.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:35 PM
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Video of Tate getting "the call" and seeing his name called.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video....5962718&ref=mf

NFLFilms also has a woman taking video in the room, so maybe he'll be featured on something they produce later?
Great video, the young man is happy to be here, and I like his attitude already. BTW did you see the guns on that boy?
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Old 04-24-2010, 04:23 AM
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I just hope he can make the one-cut that the ZBS demands and that he has the vision to see the hole open. The clips I saw on ESPN showed a little wiggle and yet a lot of the words I'm hearing say that isn't his game.
Not sure how much stock you put in Drew Boylhart's analysis from thehuddlereport.com, but that's exactly what he sees...

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/ppSD/...s/Ben.Tate.htm

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STRENGTHS
Ben is a strong running back who looks and plays bigger than his height and weight would suggest. He is a smart player who understands and reads defenses; he has the lateral agility to pick up the blitz and protect his QB. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and shows an excellent burst to the hole and in the open field. Ben is a strong runner and hits the hole at top speed. He looks to be an excellent teammate and shows some leadership skills in his play on the field. In my opinion, this kid is a bit of a sleeper running back to be drafted by a team that uses a zone blocking scheme for its running game.

NEEDS TO IMPROVE
Ben is not your shifty, vision in the hole, cut-on-a-dime running back. That means that with a good offensive line, and in the right system, he will impact. He is a one-cut-and-go type of running back. If you are going to draft him and expect him to carry the load, make his own yards, cut and look for holes, you are barking up the wrong tree. The best way to use Ben so that he impacts is to pair him up with a running back who is a cut on the dime, vision in the hole style of back who can make his own yards. This will make it hard for a defense to adjust to the different style of backs and drive them nuts.

BOTTOM LINE
Ben can impact right away as a third down back because he is so adept at reading the blitz and catching the ball out of the backfield. He will impact right away in a zone blocking scheme, but he is a one system type of back, which limits all of the teams being interested in him and therefore drops his value. Ben is a "ready to use" third down back and that makes him a potential back that should be drafted somewhere in the first three rounds. I like this kid's game because his intelligence and blocking skills are far ahead of the average back coming out in the draft. He has an excellent burst, great straight line speed and is a tough kid. All of these ingredients lend themselves to a running back that should be pretty successful at the NFL level. Ben reminds me of Kenneth Davis, a running back who was paired up with Thurman Thomasin Buffalo. Thurman was the cut on a dime, vision in the hole type of running back that could make his own yards and Kenneth was the straight ahead speed, change up back that would break big plays because the defense was hesitating to catch Thurman and could not adjust quickly enough to Kenneth's style of running. That hesitation was enough for Kenneth to make impact plays when he came on the field to rest Thurman. Early in Thurman's career, he was a bit of a fumbler and Kenneth was brought in to run inside the red zone. Ben should be an excellent red zone running back because of his all around abilities, most especially his blocking skills. Ben should become a core player for his team and a fan favorite.
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