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Originally Posted by popanot
Nope. Won one championship with Ben and lost one with Rodgers at QB. I'll agree with you their OL sucks, but to say Bortles hasn't improved and doesn't look promising, or to say Allen Robinson and Allen Hurns aren't good players, and to say Yeldon sucks after one year (when you're also saying their OL sucks), seems nonsensical to me. Sorry, I disagree with you.
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I don't think Bortles sucks. I think he probably has an Andy Dalton type ceiling. Different player but same type level. I don't think he ever reaches that ceiling in Jacksonville. I think by the time he is in the top half of NFL QBs he will be way overpaid. You mention the 35 TD number, but our QB pu pu platter combined for 29 TDs. Hoyer threw TDs on 5.5% of his throws compared to 6.1% for Bortles. And Hoyer's TD:INT ratio is better. And that is comparing him to Brian Hoyer. There are a ton of young QBs I'd rather have (Winston, Marriota, Bridgewater, Carr).
I think Hurns is an NFL player and Robinson is a solid deep threat. I think Yeldon is not very good. RBs usually are what they are. They don't typically make much growth. Yeldon has 12 carries over 12 yards on 182 rushes and just 2 TDs. He has 700 mostly meaningless yards between the 20s. That is replacement level performance. Thomas is either an average TE who Manning made look great or a good TE that JAX made look bad. Their OL is awful. This is going to be hard to fix. They are committed to Joekel and he is really bad.
Overall they are a league average unit at best that only get better than that in volume stats. And much of their success comes in garbage time (they've trailed at half in 5 straight games and thrown a ton as a result). That is after investing the huge percentage of their draft and FA assets in the offense for 3 straight years.
I am not even a little scared they overtake us.