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Originally Posted by HPF Bob
So you're saying that practically every NFL and QB scout back in 2002 was a total idiot, right? Not everyone thought he deserved a 1-1, but almost all thought he was first-round material.
I thought he played well in '03 and '04, all things considered, but regressed after that to the point that he no longer trusted his blocking or his receivers. Compare him to Tim Couch who also was drafted 1-1 by an expansion franchise and was out of the NFL after five seasons. Sacked 56 times as a rookie and 51 times the following year. Intercepted 67 times for a 3.9 INT %.
Carr, in five seasons at Houston, was sacked 76 times as a rookie and had brought it down to 49 two years later. His INT % was 3.1. So, Tim Couch, thrust into the same type of situation as Carr, actually totalled slightly worse numbers and Couch was more highly-touted than Carr, coming out of an SEC school.
I think Carr was mistreated in Houston and was damaged goods by the time he left. But if you look particularly at his numbers in 2004 when the team went 7-9, and had a running game to work with and AJ to throw to, he was becoming a competant NFL quarterback before his regression.
I don't think the scouts were wrong about Couch or Carr. I think they were put in impossible situations and were eventually beaten into submission. If we do take a QB in the first round, at least he'll have some veteran pieces in place and I sure as hell hope they find better players at RT and RG so he doesn't have to run for his life the way Keenum often did.
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I don't know how you can type that with a straight face. You mention that with a running game and an all-time great at WR he was "becoming competent", but then you say the scouts were not wrong about him being a 1st round pick.
Casserly was as wrong as the rest of the NFL about Carr. He was not alone in that judgment, but that doesn't make him any less wrong. Or does a bunch of teams thinking Ryan Leaf was worth a 1st rounder make the Chargers GM less wrong?