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Old 07-18-2008, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RunninRaven View Post
papabear, were you able to find your KC Joyner book?
I finally pulled it out....the article that recently got posted from Joyner reminded me. I'm pulling these numbers from his CB cushion chart. He list how often a CB lined up at the various cushion depths, and how many times they were thrown at at those depths, how many completions, yards, TD, INT, pen, and Yards Per Attempt along with the CB's success rate.

He shows 64 attempts at Dunta. 42 for Faggins. Faggins was hurt that year and only played in 11 games though. The only other Houston CB he list is Lewis Sanders who had 32 attempts thrown his way. That's 74 for the other corners vs. 64 for Dunta. I do think these numbers would be a little more favorable for Dunta if I had this past seasons data, but not a drastic change where it's obvious that teams were afraid to throw at him. Faggins got rattled in a couple of games and teams went at him hard.

Now there is some subjectivity here. for example, if a player catches a ball while he's sitting in between two defenders playing Zone....which one is being thrown at? I know these aren't perfect, but it matches some of what my opinion is based on watching him play. He's a good corner, but not one teams are scared of.


I know some people hate stats, and Joyners methods are far from the end all be all. He's even admitted that he's probably a little hard on Dunta because the majority of people are so high on him. I disagree with his assessment of Dunta in general, but I'm still sticking by my comment that teams don't shy away from Dunta all that much. I think he has the ability to be an elite corner (hope he still does) I just don't think he's there yet.


This is a post over at DGDB&D with some email traffic between Matt and KC Joyner on dunta.
http://www.atexansblog.com/2007/05/29/dunta-robinson-provokes-email-flurry/
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